I resigned from my job today

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E equals MC2

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I used my current job as a reference. I think the HR of the other company were smart enough to not actually use it until after I was given the job, seeing as it is a Graduate position I don't think they were going to check much of it out if they weren't serious about me?

Koing

Makes no sense.. The purpose of reference is to determine whether they want you or not. What's the point of reference if they already made an offer to hire you?


So all in all, you gambled? The HR very much could've called up your boss out of nowhere and surprised the hell out of him... If the company didn't hire you, you would've been screwed by your current boss...

Englighten me, I'm in a very similiar shoes as well
 

JS80

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You: I'm all in.
Boss: WTFBBQ. You bluffing?
You: /pokerface
Boss: Fold.
 

Tiamat

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you did very well. Its rare that you can time it like that. Just be somewhat vague "Opportunity came last minute and you just couldnt refuse it - it will bring new life to/jumpstart your career etc."
 

Eeezee

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You've done very well in my opinion. Most places require 2 weeks notice instead of 4, but it shouldn't matter if your vacation time factors in. They want 4 weeks to find a replacement, and they'll have that time regardless of whether you're there. You'll still be working for them and finishing projects. HR should be ambivalent.

And the boss should understand why you didn't tell him that you were unhappy. Like everyone else said, you don't want to screw up your job like that unless you have another one lined up. Let's say you did tell him that you were unhappy, but then you couldn't line up a new one. Now your boss knows that you're unhappy and want to leave. Now he has a good reason to fire you. "He stated that he was unhappy and this was apparent in his poor quality of work, we had to let him go," could be the written reason even if your work is impeccable.
 

Maximus96

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is it typical across the pond to give 4 week notices? on the other hand do they give you a 4 week notice if they decide to fire you?
 

Svnla

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As long as you give 2 weeks notice, you have fullil your obligation. I have no problem to move on to greener pasture. Good luck with your new job.
 

spidey07

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you called in while on vacation?

oh well, just remember that it's a small industry and everybody knows everybody. That will follow you around.

oh well, good luck.
 

BoomerD

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The only part of this I see a problem with, is trying to take vacation (holiday) time as part of your
notice period". Not sure how it is there, but here, when you quit, vacation time has to be paid like normal wages. You have earned it, they HAVE to pay it to you. Sick leave is a different thing. Many places allow you to cash out some sick time, others don't, so most people make sure NOT to have any accrued sick leave when they quit.
As has been mentioned elsewhere, here, 2 weeks is considered normal notice. 4 weeks is nice for the employer, but not mandatory. Heck, it's unusual for me to give 2 hours notice, let alone 2 weeks...
me at quitting time: "oh yeah, by the way, I won't be here on Monday...I have another job to go to...better call the hall for a replacement".
Boss: "Huh? WTF? OK"
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: lozina
wait, you consider your vacation time as part of your 'notice period' - did I read that correctly? If so I'd say that's a pretty unethical thing to do. I would say it shoud be a notice period during which you are at work so you can help 'de-couple' yourself from the company and perhaps show the ropes to the guy replacing you and what-not. Otherwise why not just abruptly quit anyway?

Well thats the thing, I'm not sure about it. Either way before this holiday I took I had not used any of my 25 days holiday a year. I was saving it all up.

If it is against policy to use holiday period up for my 4 weeks notice I will work the 4 weeks notice period. I thought that companies didn't like to pay you holiday if you weren't actually working for them? And just had it eat in to your notice period? This is my first real job so this is why I am not sure and I think it various by company to company also.

Koing

I agree with lozina - you should be planning on working the 4 weeks notice period to help gracefully transition your responsibilities to other people. And calling in your resignation rather then doing it in person is in bad taste for a job that you're leaving on good terms. In my opinion at least.

You may want these people to give you a reference someday. While you haven't exactly burnt bridges, you haven't exactly left them all warm and fuzzy either.

At least in the states you would be paid for the accrued vacation time.
 

cherrytwist

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My feelings on the subject:

They certainly wouldn't give you notice if they were going to can your ass.

You did well. I'm not sure I would have handled the "holiday" part the same way (and I would have told them in person), but 4 weeks is ample notice in my opinion.
 

sniperruff

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i think you shouldn't have resign by calling in. i'd go in person. you probably won't be able to use this job as a reference in the future. also the vacation/4 week notice combination is sort of iffy as well. but i guess as long as you finish well enough, you'll be fine.
 

maziwanka

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dunno if i would have done the same (telling the boss that you would quit over the phone) but you handled it well...

i was in a somewhat similar situation when i left my last job for law school. i didn't tell anyone that i was applying for school and when i finally accepted, i then told my boss that i would be quitting. i had a trip to japan planned at that time and was sure i would have to quit before then as i would need to take off a month from work. as it turned out, they needed me there, so my boss gave me extra vacation days and i took a month paid vacation. after i got back, i worked for another month (training the new hire) and then quit before school started.

happy times.

and koing, congrats on the new job!
 

Ranger X

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Koing, you did the right thing.

The company that you work for will lay you off without a warning so I don't see why you should be obligated to tell them anything. Companies should be prepared for attrition and if your departure is a show stopper then your company has more problems than you leaving. Move around while you're still young and never settle with just one company! Remember, your job is to look out for yourself and only yourself.
 

bennylong

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I would have done exactly as you have done.

Telling your boss you were unhappy and looking would have mean they would be looking to replace you before you can find a new job
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Ranger X
Koing, you did the right thing.

The company that you work for will lay you off without a warning so I don't see why you should be obligated to tell them anything. Companies should be prepared for attrition and if your departure is a show stopper then your company has more problems than you leaving. Move around while you're still young and never settle with just one company! Remember, your job is to look out for yourself and only yourself.

What you're forgetting is your name and reputation are more important than anything.

And moving around sends a HUGE RED FLAG, no matter who you are. It's the first job, so no big deal. But I've reviewed resumes and job hopping and not staying around for more than 3 years means "toss it". "man, I really like this guy...but he's a jumper. toss it"
 

DaiShan

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I think you handled it pretty well, however how much on job notice did you give? I know you are on vacation today, but when you are back in the office is it at least two weeks?
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: Baked
Very smooth. What's the pay difference at the new job?

Hmmmm...are you being sarcastic? Sorry I have been working with kids for the best part of 9.5hrs today and I am beat. Trained also and lifted amazing so I am definately beat.

It is ~ the same £££ with benefits included but travel time is a lot less. 10minute leisurely cycle or 6minute fast ride as oppose to 50minutes in a car :D. 1hr for lunch and not 30minutes.

But the main thing is job prospects look A LOT better :thumbsup:

Koing


Oof, I dunno if I would have quit for the same pay, especially after getting a large raise and extra vacation time. Does your new company have a clear path for promotions?
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: lozina
wait, you consider your vacation time as part of your 'notice period' - did I read that correctly? If so I'd say that's a pretty unethical thing to do. I would say it shoud be a notice period during which you are at work so you can help 'de-couple' yourself from the company and perhaps show the ropes to the guy replacing you and what-not. Otherwise why not just abruptly quit anyway?

Well thats the thing, I'm not sure about it. Either way before this holiday I took I had not used any of my 25 days holiday a year. I was saving it all up.

If it is against policy to use holiday period up for my 4 weeks notice I will work the 4 weeks notice period. I thought that companies didn't like to pay you holiday if you weren't actually working for them? And just had it eat in to your notice period? This is my first real job so this is why I am not sure and I think it various by company to company also.

Koing


I dunno about the labor laws where you live, but here, they pay our your PTO time in your last pay check (by law)
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: spidey07
you called in while on vacation?

oh well, just remember that it's a small industry and everybody knows everybody. That will follow you around.

oh well, good luck.


VERY true. I think I know 90% of the sys admins in this town, and I keep hearing stories about the monkey that had my last job before me (well he just got fired again, but this time for being arrested for breaking and entering! LOL) Anyways, I think I forgot to say congrats and good luck OP.
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
In the future, I'd recommend waiting to give a resignation notice until you can do it in person. Giving it over the phone while on vacation is a good way to burn bridges in many places.

Congrats on the new job! :)

True but I wanted to be out asap and not hang around when I got back from holiday. If I have to work the 4 weeks then so be it. I am in England if that makes any difference?.

Originally posted by: sygyzy
Where is the confusion here? Seriously. You obviously did the right thing. This is not rocket science. I think 99% of the people would agree. Maybe if you feel this much anxiety and regret over quitting, you shouldn't have done it.

I've quit, just wanted some feedback. This is my first real job and wanted feedback. What I could have done better for whenever next time is.

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
I used my current job as a reference. I think the HR of the other company were smart enough to not actually use it until after I was given the job, seeing as it is a Graduate position I don't think they were going to check much of it out if they weren't serious about me?

Koing

Makes no sense.. The purpose of reference is to determine whether they want you or not. What's the point of reference if they already made an offer to hire you?


So all in all, you gambled? The HR very much could've called up your boss out of nowhere and surprised the hell out of him... If the company didn't hire you, you would've been screwed by your current boss...

Englighten me, I'm in a very similiar shoes as well

Basically thats what I have done. Yes the HR could have done that but I'm a gambling man :p. I read some things online and it basically can swing both ways. My position is a graduat position and not an experience hire position so most of the guys wouldn't have any references besides lecturers and things in the first place.

I was willing to gamble it out and if I didn't get the job then so be it. Then I'd figure the boss would know I was looking elsewhere but before I got the raise.

Originally posted by: JS80
You: I'm all in.
Boss: WTFBBQ. You bluffing?
You: /pokerface
Boss: Fold.

LOL

Koing