"Personally I'm getting, for better or worse, to the point where I just can't bear many of the threads and people here any longer. Perhaps I'm getting older, but it has become increasingly apparent that a lot of the people here are clueless teenagers (not that all teens are clueless - just most) and they have no problem vocalizing that lack of intelligence at all times."
Therein lays the problem, Skoorb! I don't think the problem is people writing fictitious stories. The problem is members acting unruly and lacking in civility. Perhaps there are more pointless stories than meaningful stories, even if fictional. It is easier to get frustrated if someone's story lacks substance . . . but it's even worse if the empty story is all a lie. People lose it. On the other hand, if it is fictional but realistic, people hardly get suspicious to begin with. Dennilfloss had to drag his story for too long and get almost all active members at the time, including mods, involved in order to make people suspicious. Furthermore, he made it more suspicious when he posted an actual familiar face. Had he just posted an unfamiliar face . . . perhaps that of a friend, I doubt he would have been caught sooner. His stories were more familiar, so people could relate to them; and they would have continued to. I said before, the mods being involved in Dennilfloss' story was part of the problem, since other members who became sceptical suffered punishment for voicing their scepticisms. Had the mods just stayed out of it and allowed people to be sceptical if they wished, and provided they did not insult the persons in question, then the ending would have been less melodramatic.
"And, Luvly, you can't tell me it wouldn't bother you if that big thread about Fritzo and his money situation was found out to be a big hoax after spending all that time posting, can you? When people come in asking for advice/help and receive hours of advice and help from people and then it was just a big joke one can definitely conclude that ATOT is the worse for it."
I would not be bothered. I would just hope he got help for his problem, since his story, even though fictional, would seem less creative. The only thing I would do is give him a slap for the flak I got . . . hehe! I'm kidding. Really though, it would seem to me that he needed help, but the fact that he made up the story would not personally bother me. The only time it would really bother me would be if he really did try to use that situation to solicit financial contributions. If this were AT long ago, I think members would have automatically and publicly offered to help. Maybe they've gotten smarter? Or maybe people PMed offers to help financially.
Therein lays the problem, Skoorb! I don't think the problem is people writing fictitious stories. The problem is members acting unruly and lacking in civility. Perhaps there are more pointless stories than meaningful stories, even if fictional. It is easier to get frustrated if someone's story lacks substance . . . but it's even worse if the empty story is all a lie. People lose it. On the other hand, if it is fictional but realistic, people hardly get suspicious to begin with. Dennilfloss had to drag his story for too long and get almost all active members at the time, including mods, involved in order to make people suspicious. Furthermore, he made it more suspicious when he posted an actual familiar face. Had he just posted an unfamiliar face . . . perhaps that of a friend, I doubt he would have been caught sooner. His stories were more familiar, so people could relate to them; and they would have continued to. I said before, the mods being involved in Dennilfloss' story was part of the problem, since other members who became sceptical suffered punishment for voicing their scepticisms. Had the mods just stayed out of it and allowed people to be sceptical if they wished, and provided they did not insult the persons in question, then the ending would have been less melodramatic.
"And, Luvly, you can't tell me it wouldn't bother you if that big thread about Fritzo and his money situation was found out to be a big hoax after spending all that time posting, can you? When people come in asking for advice/help and receive hours of advice and help from people and then it was just a big joke one can definitely conclude that ATOT is the worse for it."
I would not be bothered. I would just hope he got help for his problem, since his story, even though fictional, would seem less creative. The only thing I would do is give him a slap for the flak I got . . . hehe! I'm kidding. Really though, it would seem to me that he needed help, but the fact that he made up the story would not personally bother me. The only time it would really bother me would be if he really did try to use that situation to solicit financial contributions. If this were AT long ago, I think members would have automatically and publicly offered to help. Maybe they've gotten smarter? Or maybe people PMed offers to help financially.
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Back in the old days, such a request/response you get one in hot water.
Cliff Notes:
Made up a fictionous person.
Others did not know that characters was fiction.
Killed off character in a tragedy.
Elicited sympathy from members.
Got exposed
Apologized and was banned.
Originally posted by: lowtech
Just to let you know that I use to like AT a lot during the old BBS day when you can come and exchange ideas with out multitude of forums & rules. During 1997~1999 AT was a great place to come for computer knowledge & serious discussions, but now it has became what Anand didn?t want it to be when he was a member of TheBrotherHoodOfTheCPU/Tweakit (AT has became the an online soap opera, ebay, and dating service). With the change many members has moved on to other forums such as AceHardware.com where honest IT discussion is the norm, and some frequently changes their handle to remain anonymity and a protest against snobbish/elitist rating.Originally posted by: Skoorb
Believe me, I don't. The morons are to thank for that
I feel that some people are taking ATOT too seriously and about to bust a blood vessel if ATOT don?t behave like ATOS or ATnetworking.
Sorry for my rant!
I now will change my nick to protest against the elitist member rating & to remain somewhat anonymous.
What forum doesn't have members with some level of notoriety?
ATOT is a great medium to help cope with the banalities of an 8-5 existence. There are countless other forums you can frequent where there is nothing but [mostly] intelligent discussion; however, it takes all kinds. I frequent several other forums that lend themselves to my specific interests.
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Anyone with more than 30k posts should be auto banned. That's just wrong in so many ways.
I agree...and I wonder how many of those post were lies....
Ausm
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Anyone with more than 30k posts should be auto banned. That's just wrong in so many ways.
I agree...and I wonder how many of those post were lies....
Ausm
Originally posted by: ausm
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Anyone with more than 30k posts should be auto banned. That's just wrong in so many ways.
I agree...and I wonder how many of those post were lies....
Ausm
Hi Ausm :beer:
Originally posted by: ausm
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Anyone with more than 30k posts should be auto banned. That's just wrong in so many ways.
I agree...and I wonder how many of those post were lies....
Ausm
...or double posts
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Ausm, if you're going to follow me around and try to poke me in the back (here and elsehwere) I'll have to start pointing out your serious, and documented mental problems. Let's just not play that game.Originally posted by: ausm
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Anyone with more than 30k posts should be auto banned. That's just wrong in so many ways.
I agree...and I wonder how many of those post were lies....
Ausm
For the record, I wasn't quite implying that he was lying. I was implying (making the assumption that his parents are wealthy) that he constantly blathers about cars he's going to get (or not) because his parents could conceivably afford them. This then opens up opportunities for him to talk about the cars he jerks off to every night and/or advertise the fact that his parents have money. My parents have money too, but only a seriously immature jackass would manufacture opportunities to advertise this. The "spinners on 745Li" is, of course, in a class by itself. That was just 100% internet bullshit.
No one should be allowed to claim they own anything without being able to prove it with a digital camera. I don't believe you.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
My digital camera was stolen out of the front seat of my Enzo
You told me it was your back seat! LIAR!!!
Elle took it, didn't she? She walked off with a bunch of my stuff when I told her to take a hike. :|Originally posted by: Skoorb
My digital camera was stolen out of the front seat of my Enzo
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Ausm, if you're going to follow me around and try to poke me in the back (here and elsehwere) I'll have to start pointing out your serious, and documented mental problems. Let's just not play that game.Originally posted by: ausm
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Anyone with more than 30k posts should be auto banned. That's just wrong in so many ways.
I agree...and I wonder how many of those post were lies....
Ausm
Skoorb Why do you go screw your almighty self ...you'll get some more action and less posting that way
Ausm
FallenHero, I know that a business, including AT, could just randomly or based upon unreliable evidence ban members provided no discrimination on the basis you listed, but I'm saying no reasonable business would do that. They're looking for money and reputation. On the other hand, if they want to base it upon real evidence, then they would have to cross the barrier of privacy, in which case they would be violating the contracts agreed upon.
Yellowperil, yes, circumstantial evidence is used in court, but it isn't very reliable. If anyone could get direct evidence, they would put that first.
Yellowperil, yes, circumstantial evidence is used in court, but it isn't very reliable. If anyone could get direct evidence, they would put that first.
I'll have to disagree with this. The kid might have been annoying but I don't call that owned. It's not something that deserves to get banned for.
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Maybe so. Honestly I didn't read much of that thread, or the links because damnit I didn't quite care enough! BUT, that aside everything else stands. And there is still a certain fellow here recently who did indeed fib about some cars he claimed to have owned.Originally posted by: Ultima
I'll have to disagree with this. The kid might have been annoying but I don't call that owned. It's not something that deserves to get banned for.
Luvly: do you seriously not comprehend how utterly absurd it is for you to be pontificating in a thread like this or are you just doing your usual "trolling-without-trolling" routine?
I'm interested in that one also.
I propose Chill Pills for all. But regardless, one should always take everything said on ATOT with a grain of salt.
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