The wabbit says it's Duck Season and the Duck says it's Rabbit Season, I'm confused.Originally posted by: TooOne21
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Shhhhh, I hunting wabbits.Originally posted by: CraigRT
pfft, way to ruin it, mang.
This inner thread is more interesting.
"I know I'm not the only one getting fed up with the lying on ATOT, frequently in the form of such things as making up one's cars. Really though some of the children here feel compelled to make up entire lives or aspects of their lives which are later found out to be totally ficticious. I won't point out the names, because we all know who you are, but I think that after a member does an Uber-owning of some other member for lying, including supporting links (thanks for Fausto for the most recent Uber-ownage), they should be banned permanently. It's very anti-social and dilutes the quality of ATOT as a whole."
Skoorb, I respectfully beg to differ if you're serious about your proposal.
If AT becomes such forum, then they would be compromising the rules of privacy signed in the contract. For in order to know whether a member was lying, they have to either use circumstantial evidence or use empirical evidence. The former would not be reliable. The latter would be a blatant and outright intrusion of one?s privacy. The only exceptions are when a member intentionally and willfully lies in order to dupe other members financially, harm anyone, or violate the laws of the state. I think banning members would discourage free thoughts and expressions. Take things on the 'net with a grain of salt. So long as someone does not harm or threaten another member, or financially rip people, then they should be allowed to be fictitious if they wish.
I understand that some people think of the 'net as a reality, but it is a matter of choice. If you choose to make it a source of personal relationship or trust, then try doing the usual investigation of the party you are interested in.
It seems we often think of AT as a little group without profit to be made. It may seem that way but, in reality, it's a business. Catering to personal matters and relationships would be diversion from that which is to be obtained financially.
Skoorb, I respectfully beg to differ if you're serious about your proposal.
If AT becomes such forum, then they would be compromising the rules of privacy signed in the contract. For in order to know whether a member was lying, they have to either use circumstantial evidence or use empirical evidence. The former would not be reliable. The latter would be a blatant and outright intrusion of one?s privacy. The only exceptions are when a member intentionally and willfully lies in order to dupe other members financially, harm anyone, or violate the laws of the state. I think banning members would discourage free thoughts and expressions. Take things on the 'net with a grain of salt. So long as someone does not harm or threaten another member, or financially rip people, then they should be allowed to be fictitious if they wish.
I understand that some people think of the 'net as a reality, but it is a matter of choice. If you choose to make it a source of personal relationship or trust, then try doing the usual investigation of the party you are interested in.
It seems we often think of AT as a little group without profit to be made. It may seem that way but, in reality, it's a business. Catering to personal matters and relationships would be diversion from that which is to be obtained financially.
Skoorb: right on. Although, I think it would be tough.... almost as tough as eliminating those who carry around their flamethrower so they can make a flame-fest out of an honest thread (or someone honestly seeking advice). Of course, this IS off-topic.... so what should we expect?
Any more I pretty much ignore the people that haven't been around for years.
Sad, but I'm tired of wading through the crap.
Viper GTS
Sad, but I'm tired of wading through the crap.
Viper GTS
i say do it. it will make it fun when people are caught. i think they should sticky the thread where they are busted so people can take random potshots at them.
Skoorb seeks to put my people in bondage. I am Saddam Hussein, and I am posting from my spider hole! Continue with this, and you will unleash the mother of all nef fests!
Originally posted by: Xiety
Millenium.
how did he change his nick?
Originally posted by: fivespeed5
Originally posted by: Xiety
Millenium.
how did he change his nick?
He asked nicely.
Viper GTS
You know, this really brings up a much deeper question. Is ATOT a place for reality or for being what we want to be? It is a tough question, but one that needs to be answered. In the other forum areas, people are what they claim to be, as their advice given for hardware is either accepted or shown to be dead wrong. In some cases, people have to be who they claim to be, such as FS/FT forum.
what about here, though? Clearly there have been reprecussions when people have lied about their identity - I can think of at least one person who faked their death and was banned for life. Are we to be like people on the sims online, who create whoever they want to create and have their fake identities, or are we to be more like a real pub where people have to be who they are? Both have problems. On the one side, if we can't trust anyone, everything becomes a big game and no one can trust anyone. On the other hand, it is hard to verify who is who, and we can run into problems of creating a community of trust when so many seem hell bent on ruining the honesty that we have.
I love the idea of banning liars, but we all like to lie to some extent, and outside of some internal governing body, I don't see how we can effectively judge who is lying enough to be banned and who isn't.
All hail the almighty mods.
Hey Im not crappy. Dont block all of us out.
I lurked for a long time before becoming a nef like you
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I agree it wouldn't stand up in court, but the mods have free reign to do what they like here, since it's free, and although something may not stand up in court (OJ simpson), it doesn't mean you are not guilty (OJ Simpson). In the case of people like aimster, and the baffoon in Fausto's ownage, it seems quite apparent that they lied and should be punished accordingly. I see that viper is of the same stance as I, in terms of getting really fedup with the crap on AT. I realize we'd only filter out a small few of the clowns here, but it's better than nothing.
Personally I'm getting, for better or worse, to the point where I just can't bear many of the threads and people here any longer. Perhaps I'm getting older, but it has become increasingly apparent that a lot of the people here are clueless teenagers (not that all teens are clueless - just most) and they have no problem vocalizing that lack of intelligence at all times.
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Link is not working for some reason. Is it a thread of people claiming to have lost their virginity?
Eh, it seemed to me that RaiseUp was mostly referring to what his family had, not him; certainly a possibility. I didn't even see him say all those cars were his, so maybe he was asking for a friend.
In my dealings with professional people of all backgrounds, my eyes have laid witness to teenagers with unbelievable privilege. It's hard to fathom a 16 year old driving around in a Porsche, Corvette, or any car of such magnitude, but it happens all the damn time. It seems a lot of ATOTers think that no one of privilege ever graces these forums, but that's clearly not the case.
That being said, I couldn't care less what others have or claim to have. I was not born into monetary privilege, but I was born into intellectual privilege that allows me to at least appreciation what I worked hard to acquire. To each their own.
In my dealings with professional people of all backgrounds, my eyes have laid witness to teenagers with unbelievable privilege. It's hard to fathom a 16 year old driving around in a Porsche, Corvette, or any car of such magnitude, but it happens all the damn time. It seems a lot of ATOTers think that no one of privilege ever graces these forums, but that's clearly not the case.
That being said, I couldn't care less what others have or claim to have. I was not born into monetary privilege, but I was born into intellectual privilege that allows me to at least appreciation what I worked hard to acquire. To each their own.
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Hi my name is Bob the Necromancer. I live in Beverly Hills, California and I own a big 20 bedroom house, 5 Ferraris, and a 747 with a swimming pool in it.
I also enjoy raising the dead to do my bidding.
Ok, I've totally lied about who I am. It's an obviously blatant lie, so does this mean I should be banned?
Get real, I agree with the sentiment that it should only occur when the lies cause financial loss, physical harm, or similar.
I also enjoy raising the dead to do my bidding.
Ok, I've totally lied about who I am. It's an obviously blatant lie, so does this mean I should be banned?
Get real, I agree with the sentiment that it should only occur when the lies cause financial loss, physical harm, or similar.
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