I never knew so many on the left has such broken minds.

[soulcougher73]

Yeah the SJW movement has gone full retard. Its a joke now.

 

[xthetenth]

Yeah the SJW movement has gone full retard. Its a joke now.

And this is the sort of person who I referred to earlier when I asked whether we as an outside community are actually managing the standards achieved by the people used as examples of those out of control college students.

You have nothing to back up your argument, you're just coughing up the same point because you saw something that confirms your biases. At least these people attempted to understand something en route to failing. They can be corrected and that can serve as something they learn from. You haven't even tried. You haven't exposed any of your reasoning, so nobody can attempt to correct you or decide that your reasoning is compelling. If you don't elaborate there's no possible exchange of ideas or growth.

 

[interchange]

What would you do with your feelings of superiority if you grew up in a world where the productive social value was that everyone was equal?

Personally I'm glad when I grew up it was still (somewhat) celebrated when someone kicked someone else's ass.

 

[brandonbull]

2 problems with this thread.

A few people represent the "left" on a position not commonly represented.

How do we know you didn't just make this shit up? Its a common practice on the right. Keep repeating a lie until enough people believe. Recording, or it didn't happen

The parrot clone army of the left is built on repeating lies and changing reality to fit their lies.

 

[JSt0rm]

I like how the op is super educated but has 1 conversation with some college kids and the entire liberal movement is now bad.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

The parrot clone army of the left is built on repeating lies and changing reality to fit their lies.

really, do tell me more about how drumpf is so truthful and honest, and how fox news never lies or misleads their audience, or how glen beck is the bastion of integrity, or limbaugh the paragon of virtue and respect, or bill o'reilly a champion of the truth

 

[xthetenth]

What would you do with your feelings of superiority if you grew up in a world where the productive social value was that everyone was equal?

Personally I'm glad when I grew up it was still (somewhat) celebrated when someone kicked someone else's ass.

There's a huge difference between celebrating a person's achievements and celebrating what they were awarded at birth.

Also, is it more worth celebrating when one person kicks another's ass or when they collaborate and make something better than either individual could?

The parrot clone army of the left is built on repeating lies and changing reality to fit their lies.

Provide an example please. Go back through my posting and you'll find that I am nothing if not excessively forthcoming with examples. Do you have examples to base your thought on? Is it even thought or just a mantra that you tell yourself that justifies its own existence?

 

[FelixDeCat]

They easiest way to tell if you are looking at a leftist is they are using an Obamaphone while sipping on a Starbucks latte

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

The people on the left run in herds and packs. They are prone to hysteria and violence so beware. Also they are irrational and hateful to people who think differently in any way, including other leftists.

They even have a fringe army of violent psychopaths called "Antifa", followed closely by "BLM" who tend to get their panties in a bunch and burn things if you disagree with them.

More lies from a FUCKING POSEUR...

 

[xthetenth]

The people on the left run in herds and packs. They are prone to hysteria and violence so beware. Also they are irrational and hateful to people who think differently in any way, including other leftists.

They even have a fringe army of violent psychopaths called "Antifa", followed closely by "BLM" who tend to get their panties in a bunch and burn things if you disagree with them.

They easiest way to tell if you are looking at a leftist is they are using an Obamaphone while sipping on a Starebucks latte

What this thread really needed was something analagous to outsider art but for social critique. Thanks!

 

[Meghan54]

More lies from a FUCKING POSEUR...

Naaa.....he was just confusing his alternative home, Stormfront, with reality.

 

[interchange]

There's a huge difference between celebrating a person's achievements and celebrating what they were awarded at birth.

That's why I root for the Kent State Golden Flashes. It's unfair that Alabama has all those giants on their football team. We should award the national championship to the team that overcame the most adversity.

Also, is it more worth celebrating when one person kicks another's ass or when they collaborate and make something better than either individual could?

Sure. See above. Teamwork is a great social virtue, even superior to individual achievement.

Here's all I'm saying: I see this scenario as people who feel intellectually superior to Lemonjello sitting next to them who is unable to read out loud in class. But it's not ok to be superior to someone whose disadvantage comes from race, wealth, etc. Reality is in conflicts with the social value they rigidly identify with. To deal with these feelings, instead of being superior to Lemonjello they can call Jim over there an "ableist and classist bigot". It's ok to be superior to someone who is wrong so long as they are not disadvantaged. The first thing I noticed about OP's quote is the big words that were used to demonstrate how wrong it is to be intellectually superior.

I am not against an egalitarian social value. I think it's really important, but these things are values not rules. It's also ok to be successful because of innate abilities like athleticism, good looks, intellect, etc. and to notice those advantages over peers who are victims of circumstance. When we notice them unconsciously but reject them, things like this happen.

 

[WHAMPOM]

I was just told by a group of SJWs, all in agreement, that finding intelligence attractive is "ableist and classist bigotry."

If this is the logic I was supporting I regret my vote for sanders (but clearly not my vote for Hilary).

Btw, if you do think intelligence is "classist" (not IQ, the tests are classist) then you are bigoted against the poor - I was poor for the first 33 years of my 36 years of life and knew many folks that were intellectually engaged but subject to bad circumstances.

SJWs?? Southern Jewish Women?

 

[sandorski]

Your use of "has" in the title has me triggered about your Cultural Appropriation!

 

[IronWing]

Your use of "has" in the title has me triggered about your Cultural Appropriation!

^^ This, this right here, well right up there, is how it is done.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Warning: meandering wall of text (hopefully it's interesting, it's certainly got something for most people. It's got WWI era intelligence testing for semi-illiterate soldiers, 60's youth movements and denazification)

tl;dr: Measurements of intelligence are often caught up in socioeconomic bias, and these people are conflating that with intelligence itself. They are either making assumptions about who they're speaking to or just can't represent the difference between something being fraught with bias and something being intrinsically biased. It's wrong but it's not necessarily a ton more off base than most other things but people are super touchy when accusations of bias or prejudice are thrown around.

Bingo. I hadn't heard the example from Italy, but the one presented to me was South American emigres being shown an umbrella and asked "Do you use this when the sun is out or when it's raining?"

Now here in the US the answer is "when it's raining." But in the tropics, when it rains, it's an unholy hellstorm downpour. You stay inside. And when the sun's out, it burns like an oven, so you use an umbrella (para sol = "for the sun") so you don't get turned into 130lb of carne asada.

Entirely cultural, and had the situation been reversed, the American would be branded with a low IQ for even considering going out in a storm.

 

[xthetenth]

Bingo. I hadn't heard the example from Italy, but the one presented to me was South American emigres being shown an umbrella and asked "Do you use this when the sun is out or when it's raining?"

Now here in the US the answer is "when it's raining." But in the tropics, when it rains, it's an unholy hellstorm downpour. You stay inside. And when the sun's out, it burns like an oven, so you use an umbrella (para sol = "for the sun") so you don't get turned into 130lb of carne asada.

Entirely cultural, and had the situation been reversed, the American would be branded with a low IQ for even considering going out in a storm.

Awesome! Somebody actually read that post!

That's another really good example.

I may have to dig up the examples from the written test because those are so culture sensitive that going from 1916 recruits to 2016 civilians it's incredibly hard to tell which is the right answer on a lot of them even for the sort of educated moderately affluent white dude of anglo extraction who was writing the test. Very different attitudes to authority especially, and a lot more assumed proximity to knowledge about house construction.

 

[ElFenix]

Warning: meandering wall of text (hopefully it's interesting, it's certainly got something for most people. It's got WWI era intelligence testing for semi-illiterate soldiers, 60's youth movements and denazification)

tl;dr: Measurements of intelligence are often caught up in socioeconomic bias, and these people are conflating that with intelligence itself. They are either making assumptions about who they're speaking to or just can't represent the difference between something being fraught with bias and something being intrinsically biased. It's wrong but it's not necessarily a ton more off base than most other things but people are super touchy when accusations of bias or prejudice are thrown around.

yep. every time jeff sessions opens his mouth i think he's a blithering moron.

 

[IronWing]

yep. every time jeff sessions opens his mouth i think he's a blithering moron.

He's not a moron; he's just a disgusting human being.

 

[Roflmouth]

He's not a moron; he's just a disgusting human being.

And this post will keep him up all night sobbing into his pillow, I assure you!

 

[IronWing]

And this post will keep him up all night sobbing into his pillow, I assure you!

Good.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Idiots will be idiots, no matter what side of the aisle they claim to be on.

Can we be done with ridiculous tribal infighting now, and get back to the fact that our country has become an embarrassing catastrophe?

yes

I'm also around progressives a hell of a lot and while what DixyCrat cited is at another level, there's definitely a virulent strain out there of folks on the left who go around looking for the latest thing to denounce other people on the left for. It strikes me as Marxist in tone in that they're always all trying to outdo each other with their ideological purity, and I'm loathe to utter words around these people because there's going to be something in the sentences I utter that I'm about to be called out for as being racist, sexist, ableist, unintelligent, et cetera.

It sucks. It's divisive as hell, and potentially career and life destroying - these folks have no compunction about putting your name and/or photo on the Internet to tell other people in their social circles what a racist / sexist / whatever they've decided you are. I avoid these folks like the plague and recommend DixyCrat to do the same; don't engage them.

Thank you for the fantastic advice!

I like how the op is super educated but has 1 conversation with some college kids and the entire liberal movement is now bad.

No, it's gradual awakening I've had to how truly ridiculous some folks can be.

HOWEVER

The point of putting the question to the community was to get a barring on it. With the exception of one person who seems to have called me a "?trump supporter?" for asking; I've got the sense that the far left, as represented on this board, is no where near the crazy that these folks where.

I really don't care about some college kids thoughts; I DO care about Anandtech's thoughts, as it offers a cross section of relatively influential people who are typically professionals. The kind of people who have made up movements, even revolutionary movements, across time.

So if my fellow left-wing radical progressives on ATOT are not crazy, then the field as it will be enacted is not likely against me.

 

[IronWing]

College leftism is like sophomore lesbianism. It's something some kids just have to try out. Unfortunately, the number of college Republicans who stick with their ghastly ideology far, far outnumbers the college leftists who remain leftists later in life.

 

[FIVR]

leftys ain't got no schoolin or class. Need to get learnt by their betters


College smollege, I say. I get by fine right here, doing what I always done

 

[JSt0rm]

I really don't care about some college kids thoughts; I DO care about Anandtech's thoughts, as it offers a cross section of relatively influential people who are typically professionals. The kind of people who have made up movements, even revolutionary movements, across time.

So if my fellow left-wing radical progressives on ATOT are not crazy, then the field as it will be enacted is not likely against me.

This place is full of fucking nerds. I wouldnt think they are leaders of society.