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I need to switch up my gels

Bateluer

Lifer
Been using the Gu gel brand for a while, but I think my stomach is starting to protest them. Could just be a lack of variety and that I need to switch up with different flavors. But, after taking a couple during a long run, my stomach isn't agreeing with them any more. After 4 or 5 and 13-ish miles, I have to suppress a gag reflect to get any more down.

I don't usually go for a sports drink because its too much of a pain to mix en route, even though I've had good luck with HEED. Plus they make the water bottle sticky and limit it to a single run. I've seen a dissolvable pill, almost like an Alka Seltzer tab, which solves the mix problem. But, I always have to mix the sports drinks at a fraction of the labeled ratios.

Suggestions?
 
Gels make me wretch too. I just stick to Clif Shot Blox, G2, real food, and water. If I need more salt I take a salt stick (I carry them in the pouch on my Nathan handhelds).
 
Oh and you are talking about Nuun tablets right?

Yes, I believe that was the brand name on them. The label said they were for 16oz bottles, and I normally carry a 12oz, or multiple 7 or 8oz bottles on a belt.

Shot Blox were good, but they get stuck in the braces these days. 😛
 
You ever make your own Cliff bars, Bat? It's actually quite alot of fun - and really they're obviously quite customizable when you can basically put whatever you want in them. I can dig up a recipe or two...
 
Yes, I believe that was the brand name on them. The label said they were for 16oz bottles, and I normally carry a 12oz, or multiple 7 or 8oz bottles on a belt.

Shot Blox were good, but they get stuck in the braces these days. 😛
I would think you could cut the tablet in half for the 8oz bottles. What I see a lot of people doing at the races is this:

20oz handheld with water in it
fuel belt with perpetuum (sp?) or gatorade or whatever in the bottles

or hydration pack with water
fuel belt with perpetuum (sp?) or gatorade or whatever in the bottles

This way you have some variety and don't get tired of drinking the same thing for many many hours straight. In a 100 that could be a useful tactic.

marmasatt, I've heard that the best nutrition bars are the homemade variety. If you have recipes I'd like to see them. I haven't been able to be bothered about that in the past, but with a 100 coming up in 2012 I think I need to take this seriously. Just use my FS/FT email address. Thanks bro.
 
Get a Camel Back and fill it up with Water or Water/G2. Beer will loose its foam though.. 🙁
I used to have about a dozen of them from the military and now cant find a single one. But regardless walmart sells variations of them in their camping section fairly cheap. But nothing beats the Camel Back brand for durability and quality water nipple.
 
There are new hydration packs out there worth looking into. UltrAspire, Nathan, Osprey, and Ultimate Direction just to name a few. My advice on a pack would be to go to a major running store/outdoor outfitter and try on as many as they have. If they have a treadmill then hop on and give it a real test. It may not be full of water when you do it, but you'll still be able to tell if the straps fit right for you.
 
You ever make your own Cliff bars, Bat? It's actually quite alot of fun - and really they're obviously quite customizable when you can basically put whatever you want in them. I can dig up a recipe or two...

I'd like to see these recipes.

I found http://www.elementbars.com/ a while back, but haven't ordered anything from them yet.

I do need a different hydration device, I hate Camelpaks and backpack mounted units though. I can't handle the constant bouncing they all do. My waist seems to be in a cusp zone for belts, between the Small and Medium sizes, so neither really fits right. My current Nathan belt only rides without bouncing if I make it extremely tight and have it ride very low around the buttocks. But, I have to have it just right, not too low or it falls down, not too high or it becomes loose and begins bouncing. My irritation with it stems more from the bottles, which tend to leak even with minimal bounce.

I did pick up an Amphipod belt, with two 12oz bottles mounted diagonally in the rear, but the belt mechanism is so poorly designed that the damn thing is worthless. 🙁 I'm looking at some of the Fuel Belt brand units, but I'll need one that has at least 4 bottles, and most of the Fuel Belt brand seem to be 7oz bottles.

But this thread isn't about hydration products. 😛 Getting a 20oz handheld and cutting the Nuun tabs in half or quarters might be a good idea.
 
At what distance did you start to integrate gels or the like? Right now I'm doing 8.25 as my "long" run, and while I haven't felt the need to refuel via gels, I know at some point it may be a wise idea.
 
At what distance did you start to integrate gels or the like? Right now I'm doing 8.25 as my "long" run, and while I haven't felt the need to refuel via gels, I know at some point it may be a wise idea.

I usually start a 13+, taking a gel at the midpoint. Longer runs, more gels.
 
I suck. I can't find them. I used to be into that stuff about 8-10 years ago. Found a thread with a few recipes. Shamelessly ripped and posted here, just so I can deliver something. Geez....

What's good about making your own, is you can add like more dried fruit (especially apricots) if you want, maybe more protein, maybe chocolate chips if you want it sweeter. Oats are really good slow burning carbs, as is dried soft fruit. Remember, it's really quite easy to mix and match. You can pick what you want from one recipe and kind of interchange for personal preference in another - it if it is a similar ingredient. The first two recipes are like clif bars, the last is kind of closer to power bar. Last word of advice is to buy straight up Old Fashioned Oats and toast them for like 20 minutes first (for any recipe you use). Good luck!

1) this one is easy to make, tastes good, provides good energy, and best of all, is vegan!

3 tbsp peanut butter
2 tbsp maple syrup
3 tbsp dark brown sugar
1 tbsp molassas
4 tbsp chopped nuts (i use mixed)
12 tbsp almond or soy milk
1 tbsp cocoa powder
3 tbsp flax seed meal
4 tbsp oatmeal
1/2 teaspoon oatmeal
1 teaspoon vitamin c powder
1/4 teaspoon sea salt
2 heaping tbsp rice protein powder (or soy protein powder)

heat almond milk, peanut butter, maple syrup, brown sugar, and molassas in a small pan on the stovetop. slowly add the remaining ingredients into the pan.

pour the mixture into a shallow 9X6 pan lined with plastic wrap, smooth the mixture evenly by pressing down with another pice of plastic wrap. put in freezer for about 1.5 hours. cut into 5 or 6 bars.

these are fairly guey, but taste like a cliff bar. i usually change the recipe a little each time... to make it more chewy and not so guey, add a little more oats or flax seed meal. you could also add bananas, raisins, apple sauce, or just about anything else you want.

the way the recipe is, you should get about this per bar:
fat: 6.4g
calories: 196
carbs: 23g
protein: 10g

high in fiber, low in cholesterol, saturated fats, sodium.




2) Relatively simple one:

2 cups butter or margarine
2 cups sugar
1/3 cup corn syrup (light Karo)
1/3 cup honey
Cream together the above ingredients.

Gradually add:

9 1/2 cups rolled oats
1 cup sliced almonds

Press into greased cake pan or large sheet pan about 1/2 inch thick. Bake at 350 degrees until golden, or about 18-20 minutes. Do not overcook, as it will get crispy and brittle. As soon as the bread has been taken from the oven, use a spatula to press it down.
This presses the bread together to keep it from crumbling, and it tends to travel better this way (especially when crammed in a Duluth Pack at the bottom of a canoe!). If youwant slightly gooier and chewier bars you can omit this step. Cut it while still warm.



3) Here's an easy one:

.Mix equal parts honey,peanut butter and whey protein powder.Roll into balls and freeze until ready to use.That is the original recipe but I have done this adding in oatmeal so I'm sure you can vary it (and add in other ingredients raisons etc.)to get the ratio of protein/(simple/complex)carb/fat you want
 
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Been using the Gu gel brand for a while, but I think my stomach is starting to protest them. Could just be a lack of variety and that I need to switch up with different flavors. But, after taking a couple during a long run, my stomach isn't agreeing with them any more. After 4 or 5 and 13-ish miles, I have to suppress a gag reflect to get any more down.

I don't usually go for a sports drink because its too much of a pain to mix en route, even though I've had good luck with HEED. Plus they make the water bottle sticky and limit it to a single run. I've seen a dissolvable pill, almost like an Alka Seltzer tab, which solves the mix problem. But, I always have to mix the sports drinks at a fraction of the labeled ratios.

Suggestions?

Do you normally take 4-5 gels for 13 miles? Isn't that a lot?
 
Do you normally take 4-5 gels for 13 miles? Isn't that a lot?

If I'm only running a half marathon, I'll usually only take 1 gel, at roughly 5 or 6 miles. On a full marathon though, I start taking them at mile 4 and every 4 or 5 miles after that because of the extra effort needed in a full vs a half. For a normal full, I'll usually go through about 6 gels. This for street running, trails are different. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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