I need a reason for abortion being legal

[zinfamous]

I can't believe the shit I'm reading on page 1 of this thread.



seriously? seriously?!??!

I could pretend to be surprised by the ignorance Shawn posted, but not much surprises me anymore.

seriously, guys? is this what happens when the flying pig is away for so long?

if you can't realize the intent behind Shawnd1s comments....

it's not trolling--it's satire.

 

[zinfamous]

it's mostly liberal women flushing their kids down the toilet so who cares. Give em a plunger to keep the purge unabated.

You would be shocked by all the jesus-loving conservafetuses ending up in the dumpster behind Dennys

Abortion is the ultimate form of greed. It is premeditated murder for personal gain.

lol. ok.

 

[Howard]

I'm surprised that nobody's talked about the eco-kooks yet.

 

[Ninjahedge]

I'm surprised that nobody's talked about the eco-kooks yet.

Are they the ones that use organic veggies in their recipes?


Oh.... KOOKS......



Nevermind..... /Gilda

 

[zinfamous]

I'm surprised that nobody's talked about the eco-kooks yet.

that's after we get to the dopers.

 

[slayernine]

All forms of contraception have a failure rate.

Maybe we should just sterilizing our female children at birth to prevent them having an abortion because of the inevitable fact that they will get raped.

Preventing stupidity with more stupidity, that's the ticket!

 

[micrometers]

Abortion is fantastic. If you've ever seen an inner city ghetto, you walk away supporting abortion.

My slam-dunk reasoning for supporting abortion is that --

1. the science will always be inconclusive about fetal life. Most people against it are driven by their sense of religious metaphysics, which is entirely theoretical.

2. Restrictions would cause unnecessary stress for women. Especially if a woman aborts a fetus which *may* kill her. Should she or her doctor be open to criminal penalty? Patently ridiculous.

2a. Living women >>> potential life

3. Even if the science could be proved, on a utilitarian level a newly born child hasn't lived a life and has not forged any meaningful connection with anyone. As the child grows up of course he or she develops meaningful connections and thus is more valuable. But at birth it constitutes a potential life and thus is utterly disposable.

4. Abortion has reduced the crime rate (my favorite) because unwanted babies are more prone to anti-social criminality due to their bad start in this world.

5. There are already 7 trillion people in this world and there are bigger problems like climate change and depletion of natural resources, not to mention destruction of animal species throughout the world as a result of people moving into natural habitats. There are too many people and I'd like to see fewer.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Abortion is fantastic. If you've ever seen an inner city ghetto, you walk away supporting abortion.

My slam-dunk reasoning for supporting abortion is that --

1. the science will always be inconclusive about fetal life. Most people against it are driven by their sense of religious metaphysics, which is entirely theoretical.

2. Restrictions would cause unnecessary stress for women. Especially if a woman aborts a fetus which *may* kill her. Should she or her doctor be open to criminal penalty? Patently ridiculous.

2a. Living women >>> potential life

3. Even if the science could be proved, on a utilitarian level a newly born child hasn't lived a life and has not forged any meaningful connection with anyone. As the child grows up of course he or she develops meaningful connections and thus is more valuable. But at birth it constitutes a potential life and thus is utterly disposable.

4. Abortion has reduced the crime rate (my favorite) because unwanted babies are more prone to anti-social criminality due to their bad start in this world.

5. There are already 7 trillion people in this world and there are bigger problems like climate change and depletion of natural resources, not to mention destruction of animal species throughout the world as a result of people moving into natural habitats. There are too many people and I'd like to see fewer.

O'rly?

 

[micrometers]

O'rly?

oops. I confuse US deficits with population numbers.

 

[shira]

Abortion is the ultimate form of greed. It is premeditated murder for personal gain.

I'll interpret your post to mean that you think that the laws should be changed to define abortion as murder. Because you of course know that the laws currently don't define abortion as murder. Which means that any pregnant woman can obtain a legal, on-demand, first-trimester abortion. And it's very unlikely that this situation is ever going to change.

That must be extremely upsetting to you.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Karmy...


3 don't make no sense... you double-negativin' or is that what you meant?

 

[micrometers]

Karmy...


3 don't make no sense... you double-negativin' or is that what you meant?

makes plenty of sense.

Even if a fetal life could be considered a human life, I'd still value the life of a mother over the life of a fetus. I'm also saying that lots of the garbage that the pro-lifers spew also comes from those religious crazy places that believe in snake handling and spiritual warfare and all of that other garbage. It's related.

 

[CaptnKirk]

I'm very pro-abortion, but someone pointed out that almost every problem related to unwanted babies can be solved by putting babies up for adoption.

Under 'IMAGES' - look up Harlequin Babies

 

[RampantAndroid]

Under 'IMAGES' - look up Harlequin Babies

Scuse me while I throw up my lunch.

People, just look up the wiki page...

 

[Dude111]

The only stuff left is convenience. Being pregnant sucks. Is that what this is about? It interferes with school, it interferes with work, it makes it harder to find random men to sleep with, it means buying a whole new set of clothes, etc. Is that what it comes down to?

Please read these statistics and tell me why it should be banned when the children that arent aborted are treated this way? (This report is a few years old,SADLY THE #s ARE MUCH HIGHER NOW)

http://web.archive.org/web/20060827...rch/state_local_data/snapshot/snapshot_us.pdf

 

[Newbian]

Please read these statistics and tell me why it should be banned when the children that arent aborted are treated this way? (This report is a few years old,SADLY THE #s ARE MUCH HIGHER NOW)

http://web.archive.org/web/20060827...rch/state_local_data/snapshot/snapshot_us.pdf

Why are you bumping this shitty thread?

 

[Thump553]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0410_0113_ZS.html

Roe v. Wade-the actual court opinion. Read it and get back to me. I wonder how many so-called conservatives actually want to abolish the right to privacy like Scalia so feverently wants to.

 

[nehalem256]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0410_0113_ZS.html

Roe v. Wade-the actual court opinion. Read it and get back to me. I wonder how many so-called conservatives actually want to abolish the right to privacy like Scalia so feverently wants to.

I think the better question is if abortion is legal how come prostitution isn't?

Does a woman have a right to make choices about her body or not?

 

[Ausm]

I could make a case why abortion should be retroactively Legal by reading many of the posts in here.

 

[sigurros81]

The government shouldn't tell a woman what she can or can't do with her body and the things that are inside her, just as well as the government shouldn't be telling people how many bullets they can have in their guns or they should not own any 'assault weapons'.

My point is, all you Republicans and Democrats are a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Sorry bro, but that's her own fault. Rape is not a choice, but birth control is. Choosing not to be on birth control implicitly means choosing pregnancy.

Lots of other things are like that. Welding without a mask even when they are readily available implies that you don't care if you go blind. Driving without a seatbelt means you don't care if you live or die. Not being on birth control tells the world you're willing to accept the consequences of being raped. It's not like rape is a rare thing. Women know how incredibly common it is. It's very likely that you know several people who have been raped. I'm not even 30 and I know at least 3 women who have admitted it. It's as common as crashing a car, and we wear seatbelts because we know how common that is.

Quoted for stupidity. And this has to be a troll thread. But the OP is a retard...

 

[umbrella39]

Very narrow minded. Solution for rape is adoption? Really? You clearly don't have a daughter. I know no father who I have spoken to on this very issue that would put their child through carrying to term, birthing then giving up a baby in that situation, including me. The trump of rape is more than enough don't you think?

Exactly. This is the woman' choice. If any man thinks this is a viable option let them get ass raped then stick and increasingly larger ball up their ass each month for 9 months and have someone adopt their little bouncing baby basketball when it's all over... they can name him Spalding.

 

[umbrella39]

... sheesh resurrection thread

 

[shortylickens]

Even though its a bump: I'll contribute.



If you make it illegal, then abortions will be done in back alley "clinics" and a lot of poor young women will die horribly, like a third of them.

Either that or make a real health bill AND an adoption/orphanage bill and stick the taxpayers with 3 trillion more of debt.
I am betting the average pro-lifer cares much more about their taxes than someone else's uterus.

 

[nehalem256]

If you make it illegal, then abortions will be done in back alley "clinics" and a lot of poor young women will die horribly, like a third of them.

(1) Murderers dying while committing murder is a bad thing?

(2) Please provide a source for your 1/3 will die stat. I remember hearing from a pro-choice source arguing that the streets were running red with blood before Roe v. Wade that the # was much much much less than that.