I love my CRT HDTV

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
I wish they made large CRT HDTV's

There is some talk that in a few years there will be no CRT's.

It's sweet to be able to just hang a TV on a wall. I do wish CRTs were shorter depth.

I give up alot of desk real estate to my 21" sony G500 (which is a short neck tube) and would love to pick up the 24" WS CRT they used to sell.

 

[Apex]

It's all about compromise. There is no perfect technology. What is an acceptable compromise to one person (say, sitting 3.8' back from a 34" CRT so that you get an acceptably immersive viewing environment), may not be to someone else.

CRT's do have many advantages, but many problems too, just like everything else.

I wouldn't mind having a dual stacked "perfectly" calibrated Sony VPH-G90u 9" CRT based projection unit on a torus screen. It'd be a costly little ah heck, and I'd still need tightly controlled ambient light.

 

[Jules]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What's the big deal about LCD HDTVs?

Over the past few months I've visited friends, checked out stores, and stayed at hotels that had LCD HDTVs. They seem to be very popular, and admittedly are taking over. But from what I've seen, their picture quality falls far short of my Sony CRT HDTV. A little more than a year ago I bought one that wasn't the highest model, but has the same tube as the XBR (It's not the XBR because it doesn't have quite as many inputs).

A friend of ours recently got a new 1080p LCD HDTV and invited us over to watch Planet Earth. They were raving about how great it looks, but as I was watching it I couldn't help to think how much better it looked on my TV. After we left, my girlfriend even said that it didn't look as good as when we watch it on mine. On theirs, when it showed a view from a helicopter going over a canyon and icebergs, the picture seemed to lack colors at the very high end (whites) and in the shadows. If that TV was all you had to go by, you'd think that it looks normal, like it's supposed to look. But on mine, you can see details in the shadows and the highlights. The color range seems to be quite a bit better. Their resolution was OK, it was mainly an issue of color depth. I've noticed the same thing on LCD computer monitors, they just don't seem to have the color range that CRTs do.

Another friend has a 720p HDTV, and on his the quality was much worse. Not only did it have the usual limitations on color range, but his resolution was noticeably worse when watching Planet Earth (everyone loves that show). He tried telling me that the difference between 720p and 1080i was impossible to notice, but at the same time when we went to Best Buy, he kept asking why some of those TVs looked sharper (they were the 1080p models).

Does anyone in here have a CRT HDTV or have any personal experiences with them? Yes, mine is bulky, yes it's heavy, yes it takes up a lot of space. But the picture quality on it leads to a letdown when I watch almost any other.

Someones jealous.

What is there to be jealous of?

LCDs are horrible at black levels and colors compaired to CRTs.

In that, he's right.

sure buddy.

And another fool displays his ignorance. :roll:

LCDs are well known for poor black levels and poor color. Not to mention the screen door effect. Just look at any HT forum to figure that out.

Nah you think?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
I love my LCD HDTV.

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: Amused
LCDs are horrible at black levels and colors compaired to CRTs.

In that, he's right.

I disagree as to the use of the word "horrible". The latest generations of LCD's have made vast strides of improvement in these areas, with good black levels and very vibrant colors, even compared to CRTs. Sorry, but the days of LCDs with limited viewing angles, poor black levels, and bad colors ended about a year ago. I don't know where you've been, Amused, but LCD's are as good or better than plasmas now (which is one reason why plasmas are plummetting in price), and are definitely starting to rival CRTs in regards to picture quality.

And then there's the fact is that CRT's are big and heavy and will always be that way. I don't know about you, but I hated the massive dimensions and 200+ lb. weight of my old CRT.

 

[Qwest]

40" 4:3 XBR for the parents is ridiculous
my 30" 16:9 is just as good...sony tubes are great and SD tv looks very sharp compared to lcd/plasma/rp

 

[Shadowknight]

For those hardcore into CRT's .... Sony's 34" XBR (widescreen) is $600 right now at Circuit City.

I have a 4:3 27" set... but it was only $270 after rebate on Black Friday Being OCD, I got it professionally calibrated and it looks BEAUTIFUL. Apparently, CRTs don't show "true" 1080 signals, so the resolution is actually lower than other technologies like LCD or Plasma. The Sony XBR stuff shows a higher resolution than most other CRTs, though it still isn't equal to LCD/Plasma stuff.

 

[jpeyton]

If your buddy had a Sony SXRD or JVC HD-ILA, you'd be singing a different tune.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Vic
I disagree as to the use of the word "horrible". The latest generations of LCD's have made vast strides of improvement in these areas, with good black levels and very vibrant colors, even compared to CRTs. Sorry, but the days of LCDs with limited viewing angles, poor black levels, and bad colors ended about a year ago. I don't know where you've been, Amused, but LCD's are as good or better than plasmas now (which is one reason why plasmas are plummetting in price), and are definitely starting to rival CRTs in regards to picture quality.

And then there's the fact is that CRT's are big and heavy and will always be that way. I don't know about you, but I hated the massive dimensions and 200+ lb. weight of my old CRT.

This is true but if the reports on the black levels of Pansonics new 1080p plamsas are true, even the new generation LCDs are about to take a back seat to plasma again.

The major reason for plasma pricing is the lack of 1080p support (which is about to change). LCD's have caught up but plasma still has the overall superior picture.

 

[Mloot]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Mloot

Originally posted by: DBL
Who wants to watch HDTV on a 4:3 TV?

I do, for the reasons stated above.

b/c SDTV is too small on a 32" LCD? That's some strange logic but whatever makes you happy. just make sure you get a good deal on your old CRT. At this point, they should be practically giving them away.

What I meant was that the difference in viewing 4:3 programs in their correct aspect ratio (no zooming, stretching, etc) on a 32" LCD and a 32" 4:3 CRT is too great. It is way smaller on the LCD.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

I've got a Sony 36" HS420 with HDMI and 2 component inputs.

Beautiful! Only issue is the 260lb weight.

I've been thinking of upgrading to the 40" CRT and matching stand but 320lbs is getting out of hand!

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Mloot
What I meant was that the difference in viewing 4:3 programs in their correct aspect ratio (no zooming, stretching, etc) on a 32" LCD and a 32" 4:3 CRT is too great. It is way smaller on the LCD.

Re-reading your post, it seems like you are more wife-limited than anything else.

 

[MrPickins]

After 4 years, I still have no regrets about buying my 34XBR800.

It's a bit small compared to newer screens, and it weighs 206 lbs, but the picture is beautiful.

I doubt we'll buy another till it dies.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
I've got a Sony 36" HS420 with HDMI and 2 component inputs.

Beautiful! Only issue is the 260lb weight.

I've been thinking of upgrading to the 40" CRT and matching stand but 320lbs is getting out of hand!

:Q

You're gonna need a forklift to get it in and out of the house!

 

[Mloot]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Mloot
What I meant was that the difference in viewing 4:3 programs in their correct aspect ratio (no zooming, stretching, etc) on a 32" LCD and a 32" 4:3 CRT is too great. It is way smaller on the LCD.

Re-reading your post, it seems like you are more wife-limited than anything else.

Yes, the WAF (wife acceptance factor) trumps all.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

My Sony XBR2 46" > your CRT.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
I love my LCD HDTV.

:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: Amused
LCDs are horrible at black levels and colors compaired to CRTs.

In that, he's right.

I disagree as to the use of the word "horrible". The latest generations of LCD's have made vast strides of improvement in these areas, with good black levels and very vibrant colors, even compared to CRTs. Sorry, but the days of LCDs with limited viewing angles, poor black levels, and bad colors ended about a year ago. I don't know where you've been, Amused, but LCD's are as good or better than plasmas now (which is one reason why plasmas are plummetting in price), and are definitely starting to rival CRTs in regards to picture quality.

And then there's the fact is that CRT's are big and heavy and will always be that way. I don't know about you, but I hated the massive dimensions and 200+ lb. weight of my old CRT.

Still LCD's are inferior right now. When you consider those that approach plasma's, then you have to consider why plasmas are still better (usually less than 1/2 the cost now).

I don't know why weight plays such an important part in this either. I haven't moved my 32" more than 3 times in 10 years.

I will agree resolution is becoming more important as actors are replaced with cgi more.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

54" Hitachi CRT RPTV FTW!! I love this thing