I love my CRT HDTV

[Juddog]

I have a 34 inch monitor / TV with VGA inputs. Using a component to VGA converter, the HD quality is stupendous, far greater than any store demo I have seen to date.

Downsides: this thing is friggin heavy, and by heavy I mean takes 3 guys to move it heavy. I literally ripped the skin on my hand while carrying it with 2 other guys down the stairs because although it's only 34 " it weighs close to 200 lbs. It's also very bulky in general, and takes up a lot of space. I spent several hours tweaking it to get the VGA signal just right.

 

[jdini76]

i like this thread. it makes me feel better about my CRT Sony wega 34XBR. I was starting to get bumbed with all these people talking about LCD FTW! and stuff. I love my TV. I had to move it twice in 1 year! not fun! took four young guys struggling to get it out and into the new place. But now it is where it is going to stay for the rest of its life. hopefully will be another 5 years. I have had it for 5 so far. Maybe by then LCDs will reach the quality of CRTs.

 

[Mloot]

I've been looking locally for either a Sony or Panasonic 32" HD CRT to replace my old 32" standard def. unit. It stinks being size-limited (wife won't give up the armoire the current set resides in). 32" LCD's are way too small for 4:3 programs, and I haven't been able to find a 37" LCD that will fit in the available space. Sony's new 37" RP LCD seems like it might fit the bill, but I haven't found a local store that stocks one yet so I can see it in person. link

Over the last few months, I've seen a few of the 40" XBR CRT's for sale for really reasonable prices, probably because the people don't want to move them anywhere when the change residences.

 

[vi edit]

That's what is nice about plasma. Great black levels and viewing angles that rival CRT's. Much larger screen sizes. 1/3 the weight.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What's the big deal about LCD HDTVs?

Over the past few months I've visited friends, checked out stores, and stayed at hotels that had LCD HDTVs. They seem to be very popular, and admittedly are taking over. But from what I've seen, their picture quality falls far short of my Sony CRT HDTV. A little more than a year ago I bought one that wasn't the highest model, but has the same tube as the XBR (It's not the XBR because it doesn't have quite as many inputs).

A friend of ours recently got a new 1080p LCD HDTV and invited us over to watch Planet Earth. They were raving about how great it looks, but as I was watching it I couldn't help to think how much better it looked on my TV. After we left, my girlfriend even said that it didn't look as good as when we watch it on mine. On theirs, when it showed a view from a helicopter going over a canyon and icebergs, the picture seemed to lack colors at the very high end (whites) and in the shadows. If that TV was all you had to go by, you'd think that it looks normal, like it's supposed to look. But on mine, you can see details in the shadows and the highlights. The color range seems to be quite a bit better. Their resolution was OK, it was mainly an issue of color depth. I've noticed the same thing on LCD computer monitors, they just don't seem to have the color range that CRTs do.

Another friend has a 720p HDTV, and on his the quality was much worse. Not only did it have the usual limitations on color range, but his resolution was noticeably worse when watching Planet Earth (everyone loves that show). He tried telling me that the difference between 720p and 1080i was impossible to notice, but at the same time when we went to Best Buy, he kept asking why some of those TVs looked sharper (they were the 1080p models).

Does anyone in here have a CRT HDTV or have any personal experiences with them? Yes, mine is bulky, yes it's heavy, yes it takes up a lot of space. But the picture quality on it leads to a letdown when I watch almost any other.

Someones jealous.

What is there to be jealous of?

LCDs are horrible at black levels and colors compaired to CRTs.

In that, he's right.

sure buddy.

And another fool displays his ignorance. :roll:

LCDs are well known for poor black levels and poor color. Not to mention the screen door effect. Just look at any HT forum to figure that out.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What's the big deal about LCD HDTVs?

Over the past few months I've visited friends, checked out stores, and stayed at hotels that had LCD HDTVs. They seem to be very popular, and admittedly are taking over. But from what I've seen, their picture quality falls far short of my Sony CRT HDTV. A little more than a year ago I bought one that wasn't the highest model, but has the same tube as the XBR (It's not the XBR because it doesn't have quite as many inputs).

A friend of ours recently got a new 1080p LCD HDTV and invited us over to watch Planet Earth. They were raving about how great it looks, but as I was watching it I couldn't help to think how much better it looked on my TV. After we left, my girlfriend even said that it didn't look as good as when we watch it on mine. On theirs, when it showed a view from a helicopter going over a canyon and icebergs, the picture seemed to lack colors at the very high end (whites) and in the shadows. If that TV was all you had to go by, you'd think that it looks normal, like it's supposed to look. But on mine, you can see details in the shadows and the highlights. The color range seems to be quite a bit better. Their resolution was OK, it was mainly an issue of color depth. I've noticed the same thing on LCD computer monitors, they just don't seem to have the color range that CRTs do.

Another friend has a 720p HDTV, and on his the quality was much worse. Not only did it have the usual limitations on color range, but his resolution was noticeably worse when watching Planet Earth (everyone loves that show). He tried telling me that the difference between 720p and 1080i was impossible to notice, but at the same time when we went to Best Buy, he kept asking why some of those TVs looked sharper (they were the 1080p models).

Does anyone in here have a CRT HDTV or have any personal experiences with them? Yes, mine is bulky, yes it's heavy, yes it takes up a lot of space. But the picture quality on it leads to a letdown when I watch almost any other.

Someones jealous.

What is there to be jealous of?

LCDs are horrible at black levels and colors compaired to CRTs.

In that, he's right.

sure buddy.

And another fool displays his ignorance. :roll:

LCDs are well known for poor black levels and poor color. Not to mention the screen door effect. Just look at any HT forum to figure that out.

LCD's do work well for HTPC's and console gaming. That's one bright spot for them. If you are a heavy gamer I'd point you to the LCD screens. For movies/tv definitely stick with CRT/Plasma.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What's the big deal about LCD HDTVs?

Over the past few months I've visited friends, checked out stores, and stayed at hotels that had LCD HDTVs. They seem to be very popular, and admittedly are taking over. But from what I've seen, their picture quality falls far short of my Sony CRT HDTV. A little more than a year ago I bought one that wasn't the highest model, but has the same tube as the XBR (It's not the XBR because it doesn't have quite as many inputs).

A friend of ours recently got a new 1080p LCD HDTV and invited us over to watch Planet Earth. They were raving about how great it looks, but as I was watching it I couldn't help to think how much better it looked on my TV. After we left, my girlfriend even said that it didn't look as good as when we watch it on mine. On theirs, when it showed a view from a helicopter going over a canyon and icebergs, the picture seemed to lack colors at the very high end (whites) and in the shadows. If that TV was all you had to go by, you'd think that it looks normal, like it's supposed to look. But on mine, you can see details in the shadows and the highlights. The color range seems to be quite a bit better. Their resolution was OK, it was mainly an issue of color depth. I've noticed the same thing on LCD computer monitors, they just don't seem to have the color range that CRTs do.

Another friend has a 720p HDTV, and on his the quality was much worse. Not only did it have the usual limitations on color range, but his resolution was noticeably worse when watching Planet Earth (everyone loves that show). He tried telling me that the difference between 720p and 1080i was impossible to notice, but at the same time when we went to Best Buy, he kept asking why some of those TVs looked sharper (they were the 1080p models).

Does anyone in here have a CRT HDTV or have any personal experiences with them? Yes, mine is bulky, yes it's heavy, yes it takes up a lot of space. But the picture quality on it leads to a letdown when I watch almost any other.

Someones jealous.

What is there to be jealous of?

LCDs are horrible at black levels and colors compaired to CRTs.

In that, he's right.

sure buddy.

And another fool displays his ignorance. :roll:

LCDs are well known for poor black levels and poor color. Not to mention the screen door effect. Just look at any HT forum to figure that out.

LCD's do work well for HTPC's and console gaming. That's one bright spot for them. If you are a heavy gamer I'd point you to the LCD screens. For movies/tv definitely stick with CRT/Plasma.

Yep. For movies good black levels go a long way. Nothing is more annoying than everything looking gray in a dark movie.

But yeah, LCD is great for games, computers and kitchen TVs. I just would never choose them for home theater applications.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Amused
Yep. For movies good black levels go a long way. Nothing is more annoying that everything looking gray in a dark movie.

But yeah, LCD is great for games, computers and kitchen TVs. I just would never choose them for home theater applications.

I'd go even farther and say they're a poor choice for HDTV.

One of the biggest things that stands out about HD is the color. With the poor color depth/detail of LCD you mis a lot of what HD is really about.

 

[Adul]

hence is the reason I am going with Samsung's second gen LED lit DLP tvs.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Amused
Yep. For movies good black levels go a long way. Nothing is more annoying that everything looking gray in a dark movie.

But yeah, LCD is great for games, computers and kitchen TVs. I just would never choose them for home theater applications.

I'd go even farther and say they're a poor choice for HDTV.

One of the biggest things that stands out about HD is the color. With the poor color depth/detail of LCD you mis a lot of what HD is really about.

Yeah, but that pretty much fits in with the HT application.

They do make great TVs for the kitchen or office... where it's always brightly lit and you're likely to have the news on constantly. In these kinda of applications black levels and color depth aren't as important as the ability to crank the white levels and not worry about burn-in.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What's the big deal about LCD HDTVs?

Over the past few months I've visited friends, checked out stores, and stayed at hotels that had LCD HDTVs. They seem to be very popular, and admittedly are taking over. But from what I've seen, their picture quality falls far short of my Sony CRT HDTV. A little more than a year ago I bought one that wasn't the highest model, but has the same tube as the XBR (It's not the XBR because it doesn't have quite as many inputs).

A friend of ours recently got a new 1080p LCD HDTV and invited us over to watch Planet Earth. They were raving about how great it looks, but as I was watching it I couldn't help to think how much better it looked on my TV. After we left, my girlfriend even said that it didn't look as good as when we watch it on mine. On theirs, when it showed a view from a helicopter going over a canyon and icebergs, the picture seemed to lack colors at the very high end (whites) and in the shadows. If that TV was all you had to go by, you'd think that it looks normal, like it's supposed to look. But on mine, you can see details in the shadows and the highlights. The color range seems to be quite a bit better. Their resolution was OK, it was mainly an issue of color depth. I've noticed the same thing on LCD computer monitors, they just don't seem to have the color range that CRTs do.

Another friend has a 720p HDTV, and on his the quality was much worse. Not only did it have the usual limitations on color range, but his resolution was noticeably worse when watching Planet Earth (everyone loves that show). He tried telling me that the difference between 720p and 1080i was impossible to notice, but at the same time when we went to Best Buy, he kept asking why some of those TVs looked sharper (they were the 1080p models).

Does anyone in here have a CRT HDTV or have any personal experiences with them? Yes, mine is bulky, yes it's heavy, yes it takes up a lot of space. But the picture quality on it leads to a letdown when I watch almost any other.

Someones jealous.

What is there to be jealous of?

LCDs are horrible at black levels and colors compaired to CRTs.

In that, he's right.

sure buddy.

they are. i have a 720p 32" and wish it had the quality of a CRT. i crave the contrast and black levels, and the superior colors of a CRT over an LCD.

 

[DBL]

The black levels on a GOOD LCD is more than adequate. However, there are a lot of crappy LCDs out there. Look at a current generation Sharp or Samsung and the black levels are not an issue. Couple that with the fact that they can actually display 1080p and there is no way I'd prefer a CRT at this time.

However, now we have the 1080p plasmas hitting the market at somewhat affordable prices. Fight it all you want but CRTs are over. Besides, some of the HD CRTs mentioned are 4:3 TVs. Who wants to watch HDTV on a 4:3 TV?

 

[StevenYoo]

how heavy are we talking about here? like 200lbs?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
I wish they made large CRT HDTV's

Only if you get to lift all of them.

Once you get used to the limited viewing angle, a CRT RP TV is great. Offers the best colors and black levels one can get.

Unfortunately, the viewing angle, burn in issues and alignment issues moved manufacturers to DLP, LCD and other technologies.

But my CRT RP offers the most film like picture.

That's what I went with, too... of course, it was also the most cost effective way to get a 65"

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: StevenYoo
how heavy are we talking about here? like 200lbs?

The larger rear projection sets can be broken into two pieces and moved relatively easily.

 

[Mloot]

Originally posted by: DBL
Who wants to watch HDTV on a 4:3 TV?

I do, for the reasons stated above.

 

[Raiden256]

Calibrated Toshiba 65HX83 FTW!

Kicks the ass of every LCD I have seen.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
I wish they made large CRT HDTV's

They call them projectors

 

[Sphexi]

A friend of mine has an older RCA monitor, like a 34" or something huge like that. It has VGA and component inputs and all that, looks fantastic on a HD box from Comcast. Only thing is that it's like 300lbs or something crazy like that, takes three of us to move it around.

 

[fire400]

My sister has a 30" LCD from NEC, the "ultra premium" model. Goes beyond 1600x1200 with a Radeon x1900XT. Everything is crisp, clean and clear cut.

Not all LCD's are like that you know. The ones you saw are probably LCD TV's, which greatly differs from officialy LCD monitors.

CRT's have great quality. But once you bump up the LCD technology, you are looking at better-than CRT-technology on a flat panel.

No offensive, but I had to speak out to the owners of generally more expensive LCD's screens.

GG everyone!

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Mloot

Originally posted by: DBL
Who wants to watch HDTV on a 4:3 TV?

I do, for the reasons stated above.

b/c SDTV is too small on a 32" LCD? That's some strange logic but whatever makes you happy. just make sure you get a good deal on your old CRT. At this point, they should be practically giving them away.

 

[paulxcook]

I have this TV.

I got it with tax for about $720. My brother-in-law and I were able to lift it without too much trouble, and once we had it unpacked we found it has wheels, making it very easy to move around the house.

The picture is gorgeous, better than most LCDs and plasmas I've seen. A lot less money, too. And I have no interest in hanging a $2500 piece of electronics above my fireplace, so this is the perfect TV for me.

The only problem I have with it is it shows me just how horrible my PS2's games' graphics truly are.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: paulxcook
I have this TV.

I got it with tax for about $720. My brother-in-law and I were able to lift it without too much trouble, and once we had it unpacked we found it has wheels, making it very easy to move around the house.

The picture is gorgeous, better than most LCDs and plasmas I've seen. A lot less money, too. And I have no interest in hanging a $2500 piece of electronics above my fireplace, so this is the perfect TV for me.

The only problem I have with it is it shows me just how horrible my PS2's games' graphics truly are.

Yep, I have the 65" version of that same TV. The wheels are very handy

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: StevenYoo
how heavy are we talking about here? like 200lbs?

I know for a fact that my 34inch is 255lbs. It even has handles on the sides, but you really need three guys to move it right. One on each side, and one on the back to stabilize it.

I've done it twice, and I don't plan on doing it again, but who knows. Moving a 46inch RP CRT was MUCH easier even though it was bigger...it weighed SO much less.

>40in 1080P is calling me, but I like black levels.

But if you can get several guys to help you move it, and 34 inches is big enough for you, you can easily find one for ~500-600, and you won't find better PQ short of a good 1080p plasma.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Amused
It boils down to size. There are no DV CRTs that are large enough for a theater like experience.

IMHO short of a screen and projector nothing = theatre experience...the 100" LCDs coming out would do pretty well.

I am debating hunting down a 40" CRT Wega or going 46"ish Plasma. (I prefer the plasma look and don't have worries on burn in, but LCD's are catching up).

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