I love it! People are really getting pissed!

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Why haven't we found one lousy fuck that overpayed their taxes?

How hard have you looked?

And by the way, are you letting some self-hate out here?

I wanted to be part of the outrage, and no, I don't see one who over-payed.

You aren't looking very hard beacuse you want another excuse to be outraged, eh?

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
If I were in politics I'd have ten accountants checking my taxes and publish them for people to critique. You know perfectly well that any mistake in underpayment if found by others will kill you if you are in public life.

How so? Historically I don't see any reason one would have suspected as much.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I smell indifference and greed. Screw them.

Based soley on smell?

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
They had a deep obligation to be clean on the tax thing...

I get the impression you lack a reasonable understanding of what a giant mess our tax code is, as if you did I'm guessing you'd agree with me that your rage would be better directed at that.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
...just like that filthy Clinton had no business getting a blow job from a 21 year old as President of the United States.

Well that was obviously intentional.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
All this rage the country if feeling is the fault of three people who fucked up. One is in and two, supposedly the best for the job they were chosen for, lost because they were careless or dishonest. We will never know, but their services are ruined. People who should have been responsible let us down. Stupid assholes.

Looks more like scapegoating to me.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Jiggz

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Why haven't we found one lousy fuck that overpayed their taxes?

How hard have you looked?

And by the way, are you letting some self-hate out here?

Leon Panetta seems to be a perfect guy! It seems he didn't pay his taxes either!

See that word 'seems'? That's the problem. You may give these folk a pass and I may, on a good day, but why the hell do we have to, and what about all the Republican scum you see in this thread looking for any beloved patriot in Obama's armor. When you deal with assholes like these you stay lily white or you get creamed. You don't give swine an inch. And look at Bamacre. He's running a script that tells him that all democrats and republicans are scum. Every time some jackass fails to pay his taxes folk like that jump for joy. I told you so, I told you so. These people have responsibility not to turn the American people into gloating swine. To those to whom so much is given, much is asked.

 

[Moonbeam]

TheSnowman: You aren't looking very hard because you want another excuse to be outraged, eh?

M: No, I am going with outrage as a thread theme.

TS: How so? Historically I don't see any reason one would have suspected as much.

M: It a big surprise these folk owe taxes and are now in shit?

TS: Based soley on smell?

M: That's my feeling. I trust them and with reason.

TS: I get the impression you lack a reasonable understanding of what a giant mess our tax code is, as if you did I'm guessing you'd agree with me that your rage would be better directed at that.

M: These folk were hoist by their own petard in the court of public opinion, one I share. Rational crap like you offer here I'm fully aware of. It makes no difference because they were judged and shot in the knee caps. They will never walk again. They will always be the folk who fucked up on their taxes. They will always be presumed guilty and never be able to prove they are innocent because only they know what really happened and we the public will make up our own mind. Because of that simple fact, they had to be shot. We don't have to accept tax cheats as our employees. We can presume them guilty because they aren't on trial in a court of law. We are judge jury and executioner. If you want to be employed in the service of the people, pay your fucking taxes.

TS: Well that was obviously intentional. (Clinton)

M: Oh, come on, it was just a momentary lapse in judgment in an otherwise saintly life.

TS: Looks more like scapegoating to me.

M: It looks exactly like who you are. You are charitable and I am vicious. I don't tolerate the slightest hint or appearance of possible corruption in those who I want serving me at my expense. I demand unimpeachable ethical behavior. These assholes write the tax laws and then claim they are too difficult to properly pay what they owe. Double fuck them.

 

[kylebisme]

D'oh, I haven't seen you on such a sarcasm kick in so long that I though you had just flipped your lid. My bad.

 

[Zebo]

Funny how they NEVER over pay. I already know people in this class are able to shield a ton of income from levy the only problem is, to me, it shows a total disregard for the law they are charged to make or at best an incompetence whereby they should not be making laws.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
D'oh, I haven't seen you on such a sarcasm kick in so long that I though you had just flipped your lid. My bad.

The fate of the human race depends on our ethical evolution. The human race created God in its image, the highest ideals we can aspire to that we can conceive. The ideals we create we create because they come from our soul. We are God waiting to happen. God doesn't cheat on his taxes. If you fuck up on your taxes even by mistake you let everybody down but with our survival at stake. So even if it's a mistake, you have to be swept away. Appearances matter and Obama promised a higher standard. There are places where the rubber meets the road. Truth is a hard taskmaster.

And I am normal. It's everybody else that's nuts.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Funny how they NEVER over pay. I already know people in this class are able to shield a ton of income from levy the only problem is, to me, it shows a total disregard for the law they are charged to make or at best an incompetence whereby they should not be making laws.

See what I mean.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Funny how they NEVER over pay. I already know people in this class are able to shield a ton of income from levy the only problem is, to me, it shows a total disregard for the law they are charged to make or at best an incompetence whereby they should not be making laws.

well, that is what makes them perfect to make the laws as they are above them.

seriously, somebody, not the irs should, some 3rd party forensic accountant should audit the top levels of the gov and see who really is honest, but that will never happen as i think the outcome would be the beginning some bad things.....

looks like the sheeple are waking up and not jumping off the cliff or drinking the kool-aid like those in front of them. about time....if they have the tenacity to keep w/ it.

don't forget, the "bailout", i mean "stimulus" is ~$900B before interest, w/ interest it is ~$1.3T or so and counting....i am sure it will grow more before it is signed.

also, why does it need to be so rushed? i understand the issues but i take more time and consideration if i make a $1K purchase than these people are w/ this $1T amount. why does bho need it to be done at a set date? yes, rush it, but rush it and make it work, not just rush to waste $$ which it seems like what they are doing, just spending to spend.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Dissipate
People aren't really going to be outraged until they are on the street without food and water.

i am sure many are in their homes only because they are now squatting.....and hooking up to the few neighbors that are in the hood still w/ running water and electric, or just cutting the locks off the breaker boxes...

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
And I am normal. It's everybody else that's nuts.

"If you act like a dumb shit, they'll treat you as an equal."

-J. R. "Bob" Dobbs

 

[BrownTown]

The problem is that its only the old people like this lady who want to be financially responsible, and all the young people have a damn entitlement attitude like they are somehow owed so muhc just for being born in this country. The irony of course is the fact that this is gonna all screw over the younger generation and not the older people. Maybe I'm just being some Republican mouthpiece here, but I am a middle class person born to middle class people and I currently work 70 hours a week (7x10s), and to have the damn government take MY hard earned money and give it to a bunch of spoiled idiots who are too lazy to hold down a job is not my idea of how a goverment should work. We should ENCOURAE hard work, not punish it.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
I currently work 70 hours a week (7x10s), and to have the damn government take MY hard earned money and give it to a bunch of spoiled idiots who are too lazy to hold down a job is not my idea of how a goverment should work. We should ENCOURAE hard work, not punish it.

What are you, some kind of Share Cropper?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I wanted to be part of the outrage, and no, I don't see one who over-payed. If I were in politics I'd have ten accountants checking my taxes and publish them for people to critique. You know perfectly well that any mistake in underpayment if found by others will kill you if you are in public life. I smell indifference and greed. Screw them. They had a deep obligation to be clean on the tax thing just like that filthy Clinton had no business getting a blow job from a 21 year old as President of the United States. All this rage the country if feeling is the fault of three people who fucked up. One is in and two, supposedly the best for the job they were chosen for, lost because they were careless or dishonest. We will never know, but their services are ruined. People who should have been responsible let us down. Stupid assholes.

I just wanted to say this is the most normal thing I have yet to see you post Moonie...never knew you had it in you.

 

[StageLeft]

It is unreasonable the standards they are held to, particularly in the case of the lady over her $996 (?) tax bill. I am positive that most people's tax returns are not perfect one way or the other.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
It is unreasonable the standards they are held to, particularly in the case of the lady over her $996 (?) tax bill. I am positive that most people's tax returns are not perfect one way or the other.

Well in Daschles case he knew of the delinquent tax he owed and didn't bother to pay it until after he was nominated for the Cabinet position. There's unreasonable standards then there's arrogance as in Daschles case.

 

[PokerGuy]

I can accept a small (presumably) honest mistake, but most of the time it's the hubris of those with power that they are above those silly rules that the commoners must follow. It has nothing to do with political parties or affiliation it's a disease that comes with wealth and power. Many can resist it, but many can not.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
:laugh:

This is what happens when Harriet Christian and her ilk get a hold of lawmaker's phone numbers.

BTW, how'd the "mad as hell" approach work for Harriet during the election? PUMA? :laugh:

No, this is what happens when the worst approval rated House and Senate in US history gets a Presidential Administration that backs their every play. It is what happens when you have an entire federal government structure whose first allegiance is not to the people whom they serve.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I can accept a small (presumably) honest mistake, but most of the time it's the hubris of those with power that they are above those silly rules that the commoners must follow. It has nothing to do with political parties or affiliation it's a disease that comes with wealth and power. Many can resist it, but many can not.

:thumbsup: The recent flood of corrupt officials is sickening.

 

[GeezerMan]

Let's see here. Congress and the Senate makes around 174K a year. It's true that retirement and medical benefits are out of this world. BUT, we have multi-millionaires fighting to get the jobs. Can we guess why? Are they just concerned citizens wanting to serve the public? Or pilfer the public?

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I can accept a small (presumably) honest mistake, but most of the time it's the hubris of those with power that they are above those silly rules that the commoners must follow. It has nothing to do with political parties or affiliation it's a disease that comes with wealth and power. Many can resist it, but many can not.

:thumbsup: The recent flood of corrupt officials is sickening.

Yes, and then like criminals they justify to themselves why they are doing nothing wrong when the truth is that they are just not getting caught or they are abusing an unintentional loophole in the system.

 

[JohnnyGage]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: OrByte
OP, exactly what would you have Obama say? Since you seem to think he is "being too quiet"

Well as soon as you find out somebody is a tax cheat you don't make them the secretary of the treasury and in charge of the IRS.


That would be like putting Oprah in charge of Jenny Craig.

Or you in charge of a Day Care.

Or you in charge of a liquor store.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Dissipate
People aren't really going to be outraged until they are on the street without food and water.

True enough, but we're trying our damnedest to reach that point. If this depression doesn't do it, the bubble that cushioned our fall will be guaranteed to do it. Next time it pops will be the last time.

- Ron Paul, 1982.

What's your point Captain Help Desk? We've been riding one bubble to the next since then, and we've just about run out of bubbles.

 

[Skitzer]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I can accept a small (presumably) honest mistake, but most of the time it's the hubris of those with power that they are above those silly rules that the commoners must follow. It has nothing to do with political parties or affiliation it's a disease that comes with wealth and power. Many can resist it, but many can not.

QFT! :thumbsup:

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Why haven't we found one lousy fuck that overpayed their taxes?

How hard have you looked?

And by the way, are you letting some self-hate out here?

I wanted to be part of the outrage, and no, I don't see one who over-payed. If I were in politics I'd have ten accountants checking my taxes and publish them for people to critique. You know perfectly well that any mistake in underpayment if found by others will kill you if you are in public life. I smell indifference and greed. Screw them. They had a deep obligation to be clean on the tax thing just like that filthy Clinton had no business getting a blow job from a 21 year old as President of the United States. All this rage the country if feeling is the fault of three people who fucked up. One is in and two, supposedly the best for the job they were chosen for, lost because they were careless or dishonest. We will never know, but their services are ruined. People who should have been responsible let us down. Stupid assholes.

It's four people who fucked up. Obama is part of this mess.

 

[piasabird]

I dont see any change from Obama.