I live in a country that puts babies in cages

[Incorruptible]

Oh it has everything to do with what you posted and it is your party as you've professed your fealty to moronic amoral stupidity repeatedly in these very forums. I'm sorry you've become such a cuck that you can't even own your own beliefs anymore. You're every bit as cowardly as the current administration.

Grow a pair and own the shit storm that you've created. Congrats you won the last election. Now deal with it you fucking pussy.

STFU You son a fucking bitch, You're nothing but a cuck who just stood by and watched you sick bastard. Get your head out of your wifes ass. Either show proof I am a republican or take down the false statement. Since my time on P&N I have always been a Classical Liberal. Now go back to defending child molestors you pathetic excuse for a human being.

 

[Victorian Gray]

STFU You son a fucking bitch, You're nothing but a cuck who just stood by and watched you sick bastard. Get your head out of your wifes ass. Either show proof I am a republican or take down the false statement. Since my time on P&N I have always been a Classical Liberal. Now go back to defending child molestors you pathetic excuse for a human being.

Gee, apparently even trolls get triggered. Poor misunderstood sock.

 

[glenn1]

Only 28% of Americans approve of the policy seperating kids from parents, but almost 60% of Republicans approve it.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/immigration-trump-approval/index.html

This is pretty good evidence there are a shit ton of Christians who totally miss the fucking point of Jesus.

And that there’s a lot of progressives who totally miss the ducking point of the immigration laws they passed.

 

[brycejones]

And that there’s a lot of progressives who totally miss the ducking point of the immigration laws they passed.

Lame lie is still a lie.

Carry that water.

 

[brycejones]

STFU You son a fucking bitch, You're nothing but a cuck who just stood by and watched you sick bastard. Get your head out of your wifes ass. Either show proof I am a republican or take down the false statement. Since my time on P&N I have always been a Classical Liberal. Now go back to defending child molestors you pathetic excuse for a human being.

Own your party and your vote. You are such a coward. Btw it is your party that nominated a kiddy diddler for the US Senate. You should probably calm down or your mother will take your computer away again.

 

[Incorruptible]

Own your party and your vote. You are such a coward. Btw it is your party that nominated a kiddy diddler for the US Senate. You should probably calm down or your mother will take your computer away again.

Again prove it you stupid son of a bitch. Get your head out of your moms ass. The only coward is you for refusing to condemn the child rapists.

 

[Bitek]

And that there’s a lot of progressives who totally miss the ducking point of the immigration laws they passed.

Own the consequences of your actions. Stop passing the blame like a fucking coward.

 

[brycejones]

Again prove it you stupid son of a bitch. Get your head out of your moms ass. The only coward is you for refusing to condemn the child rapists.

Dude, your losing your shit. You haven't condemned commuism in this thread so you must be a total pinko.

Is that your problem? You vote for the GOP but are a secret pinko? How conflicted you must be. But it's ok both pinkos and the modern GOP are total authoritarians so you will be able to find a way. Although if you keep throwing shit mom won't buy you anymore cheesy Poof's.

 

[cytg111]

STFU You son a fucking bitch...

To be the best kind of correct, technical, it would be a marvel of religious proportions if she didnt fuck and indeed had a son...

 

[darkswordsman17]

It's a difficult question, because we need border security, but nobody wants to tear families apart. Part of the outrage happening now is because the numbers are so large that it can't be quietly swept under the rug anymore. The Department of Health and Human Services confirmed to the Washington Examiner that as of Friday, they are currently holding 11,500 children:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/us-could-be-holding-30-000-border-kids-by-august-officials

That means there's 20k+ parents out there who are no longer with their kids, all because they wanted a better life than what they had before & had to get into the United States illegally to do so. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here in an air-conditioned room with high-speed Internet access eating takeout & reading about all of this stuff because I was lucky enough to be born on the right side of the fence. A lot of people aren't comfortable with how we're treating these immigrant families right now, especially the children, and a lot of people simply weren't aware of the situation before.

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-06-25

 

[glenn1]

Own the consequences of your actions. Stop passing the blame like a fucking coward.

I’ll gladly own the consequences of enforcing the law. It’s the illegal aliens who created this situation not us. If they stop coming they won’t need to worry about being separated from their kids.

 

[IronWing]

I’ll gladly own the consequences of enforcing the law. It’s the illegal aliens who created this situation not us.

No, Trump created the current situation for political expediency. He saw Congress was getting close to taking a way his DACA hostages so he decided to go collect some more hostages. Children make great bargaining chips. You own this, you fascist fuck.

 

[glenn1]

No, Trump created the current situation for political expediency. He saw Congress was getting close to taking a way his DACA hostages so he decided to go collect some more hostages. Children make great bargaining chips. You own this, you fascist fuck.

So we put a gun to the head of economic migrants and threatened them unless they agreed to illegally enter our country?

 

[cytg111]

So we put a gun to the head of economic migrants and threatened them unless they agreed to illegally enter our country?

Landmines... and cluster bombs... and mustard gas... thatll teach them to not come knocking.

 

[IronWing]

So we put a gun to the head of economic migrants and threatened them unless they agreed to illegally enter our country?

Literally, yes. Who arms the gangs and provides their cash? Who arms their repressive governments? Cue the Stone Cutter song, fascist fuck.

 

[glenn1]

Literally, yes. Who arms the gangs and provides their cash? Who arms their repressive governments? Cue the Stone Cutter song, fascist fuck.

Victims of gangs aren’t one of the recognized bases to claim asylum; you fail yet again.

 

[glenn1]

Literally, yes. Who arms the gangs and provides their cash? Who arms their repressive governments? Cue the Stone Cutter song, fascist fuck.

Victims of gangs aren’t one of the recognized bases to claim asylum; you fail yet again.

 

[IronWing]

Victims of gangs aren’t one of the recognized bases to claim asylum; you fail yet again.

Dodging the results of policies you support, yet again, fascist fuck and craven coward.

 

[UNCjigga]

Victims of gangs aren’t one of the recognized bases to claim asylum; you fail yet again.

Since 2 weeks ago. Why is it ok for Trump to strictly enforce the law when it comes to child separations, yet ignore our asylum laws??

I find it incredible how far this President will go to pass the buck, and how many conservatives (even those who claim they didn't vote for him!) willingly allow him to do so.

 

[JSt0rm]

I’ll gladly own the consequences of enforcing the law. It’s the illegal aliens who created this situation not us. If they stop coming they won’t need to worry about being separated from their kids.

It’s a misdemeanor. And it’s legal to request asylum. Try again fuck boy.

 

[glenn1]

Since 2 weeks ago. Why is it ok for Trump to strictly enforce the law when it comes to child separations, yet ignore our asylum laws??

I find it incredible how far this President will go to pass the buck, and how many conservatives (even those who claim they didn't vote for him!) willingly allow him to do so.

So that’s your problem then, the legal bases for asylum have been the same in U.S. and international law and “gangs are bothering me” is not, nor ever has been one of them (race, religion, nationality, political opinion, social group membership). If you got in earlier than 3 weeks ago on something other than one of those 5 then I guess congrats, our government didn’t follow its own law. That’s no reason to continue to not follow the law going forward however.

 

[glenn1]

Since 2 weeks ago. Why is it ok for Trump to strictly enforce the law when it comes to child separations, yet ignore our asylum laws??

I find it incredible how far this President will go to pass the buck, and how many conservatives (even those who claim they didn't vote for him!) willingly allow him to do so.

So that’s your problem then, the legal bases for asylum have been the same in U.S. and international law and “gangs are bothering me” is not, nor ever has been one of them (race, religion, nationality, political opinion, social group membership). If you got in earlier than 3 weeks ago on something other than one of those 5 then I guess congrats, our government didn’t follow its own law. That’s no reason to continue to not follow the law going forward however.

 

[JSt0rm]

So that’s your problem then, the legal bases for asylum have been the same in U.S. and international law and “gangs are bothering me” is not, nor ever has been one of them (race, religion, nationality, political opinion, social group membership). If you got in earlier than 3 weeks ago on something other than one of those 5 then I guess congrats, our government didn’t follow its own law. That’s no reason to continue to not follow the law going forward however.

And who was the judge in all of these cases?

 

[glenn1]

And who was the judge in all of these cases?

Don’t know don’t care and zero tolerance and AG guidance has mooted it anyway. Asylum law requirements are no longer being incorrectly applied to cover any and all bad circumstances in life.

 

[sportage]

A. PASS THE BUCK
B. WAIT IT OUT... THEY'RE WRONG WE'RE RIGHT
C. DO NOTHING AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

This is what is happening on both sides.
Neither democrats OR republicans have ANY desire to solve this.
To come together and address ANY OF THIS.
There you have it....
You have what American voters on both sides ABSOLUTELY HATE in politics.
This DO NOTHING attitude on both sides of the isle, and the same-o same-o game of politics as usual.

Voters continually toss one party out and bring another party in just in hopes of ending this G-damn stalemate, that old "politics as usual" system of government.
And it NEVER works.... NEVER!
No matter who voters elect in hopes of change, it NEVER pans out as voters expected. AND.... were promised OVER and OVER by the candidates.

And here we find ourself once again.
Republicans COULD solve this simply because THEY control EVERYTHING in government. But.... they won't.
Democrats COULD scream and shout to change this, to make a HUGE stink over what is happening. But... they won't.

Each side is playing this tired old game, the same-o same-o game of DO NOTHING politics.

Republicans in congress WILL NOT go along because they think all that democrats want is amnesty. Open borders.
And republicans do not want to cooperate with any democrat.
Not hand any democrat a WIN.

Democrats in congress WILL NOT go along because they know that ANYTHING and EVERYTHING republicans offer up WILL ASSUREDLY involve that DONALD TRUMP BORDER WALL.
That billion+ dollar taxpayer funded Trump border wall.
For democrats, that is a deal killer. The DOA deal.

Republican will do nothing unless they get THAT WALL.
Fully funded. Fully funded NOT by Mexico but.... funded by US taxpayers.
Democrats will do nothing unless the "WALL" issue is not in the deal.

And so.... here we are. Once again.
Another tragedy in the making where neither side is willing to talk.
While the media is FREAKING OUT.
With both sides believing that to do nothing will give them a win in the end.
THIS IS American politics as usual. Sound familiar? It should.
Just in case anyone might have thought the last election changed anything, IT DID NOT!

What to do? What to do?
Sadly, we have only two national parties to elect from.
And none of the two, so matter who runs or who is elected including a failed realty TV game show host, not one from either party will change anything in congress.
It's like.... when these people get elected, and regardless of their well intentions, they are taken into a sealed room and forced to sign "THE PLEDGE".
"THE PLEDGE" stating... I WILL GO ALONG WITH POLITICS AS USUAL.
I DARE NOT ROCK THE BOAT OF POLITICS AS USUAL.
That must be the problem....
What is going on.
Because as often as we vote in and toss out one party after another, nothing ever changes.
The one thing and only thing we can count on is POLITICS AS USUAL.
Republican, democrat, it doesn't matter....
And I purposely leave out all other parties i.e. independents and everything else because.... neither democrats or republicans in control will EVER allow the independents or anything other party to have equal POWER.
All we have and will forever have is our two party system.
Democrats and republicans.
What to do? What to do?