I just saw the HD DVD Floor Model at Best Buy

[PhoenixOrion]

Originally posted by: Stewy

Originally posted by: venk

Originally posted by: intogamer

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: JMWarren
Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.

:laugh:

I know why Goosemaster is laughing..😀

Cause hes loaded with HD PRON 😉

ftp?

AFAIK, there are only two true HD prons out right now... But they are true HD... Some pirate thing, if I remember correctly.

I think you are talking about Island Fever 3 and Pirates....made by same director. A quick google check found many "HD" titles but they are all downcoverted to DVD and sold as "hi def DVD" for whatever that means.

 

[cruzer]

I read that the one of the first HD-DVD titles to come out today was Firefly and the disc costs $35 ! I hope they all won't be that expensive...

 

[five40]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75

Originally posted by: Rage187
/stares at his 37" 1080P Westinghouse


/em waits until there is a clear victor

Well, 2 issues:

1) Those HD-DVD Players are NOT outputting at 1080P
2) Those 1080P Westinghouse sets CANNOT accept a 1080P signal NATIVELY!

Actually no 1080P sets that are currently being sold can accept a 1080P signal.. this is why this launch thing is a joke.

If anyone here is planning to buy an HD set you should wait until :
1) HD-DVD Players / Bluray Players output 1080P Natively
2) HDTV sets accept a 1080P signal Natively

As it stands these "1080P HDTV sets" can only accept a 480P, 720P, 1080i signal and upconvert them to 1080P. By connecting a 1080P signal directely to one of the current 1080P sets available, you are losing picture quality due to the fact that the set has to downsample the signal to 1080i than reconvert it to 1080P. 🙁 This makes it convert the signal twice. Not good.

WAY TO MISINFORM EVERYONE. Now that the yelling is done, there are a good number of sets that do 1080P natively. I have a 37" Westinghouse that does 1080P native. Yes 1920x1080. It's got a nice little DVI connection that displays anything I want at 1080P. For TV or DVDs, there is no 1080P content, but HD DVD and bluray should change that.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Stewy

Originally posted by: venk

Originally posted by: intogamer

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: JMWarren
Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.

:laugh:

I know why Goosemaster is laughing..😀

Cause hes loaded with HD PRON 😉

ftp?

AFAIK, there are only two true HD prons out right now... But they are true HD... Some pirate thing, if I remember correctly.

Two movies, and there is more HD stuff out there.

That said, the only reason I know is because

1)YES I AM A MAN, and I was curious...wasn' really anythig nspecial. Long sicne deleted.
2) people have been bitching at me for like ever about it so I deciced to do some 'reasearch' and give them an answer.

3)no, I don't have any.

 

[frankgomez75]

Originally posted by: five40

Originally posted by: frankgomez75

Originally posted by: Rage187
/stares at his 37" 1080P Westinghouse


/em waits until there is a clear victor

Well, 2 issues:

1) Those HD-DVD Players are NOT outputting at 1080P
2) Those 1080P Westinghouse sets CANNOT accept a 1080P signal NATIVELY!

Actually no 1080P sets that are currently being sold can accept a 1080P signal.. this is why this launch thing is a joke.

If anyone here is planning to buy an HD set you should wait until :
1) HD-DVD Players / Bluray Players output 1080P Natively
2) HDTV sets accept a 1080P signal Natively

As it stands these "1080P HDTV sets" can only accept a 480P, 720P, 1080i signal and upconvert them to 1080P. By connecting a 1080P signal directely to one of the current 1080P sets available, you are losing picture quality due to the fact that the set has to downsample the signal to 1080i than reconvert it to 1080P. 🙁 This makes it convert the signal twice. Not good.

WAY TO MISINFORM EVERYONE. Now that the yelling is done, there are a good number of sets that do 1080P natively. I have a 37" Westinghouse that does 1080P native. Yes 1920x1080. It's got a nice little DVI connection that displays anything I want at 1080P. For TV or DVDs, there is no 1080P content, but HD DVD and bluray should change that.

Ummm... not really

There are only a few sets that are hitting the scene capable of ACCEPTING a 1080P signal Natively. However, I was mistaken on the Westinghous 1080P model, as specs show it as ACCEPTING a 1080P signal.

However, let it be known, that just because an HDTV set says 1080P that does not mean it ACCEPTS a 1080P signal, rather it will upconvert the image to 1080P which is the case for MOST 1080P sets, excluding the Westinghouse 😉

Facts and Fiction of 1080P

There are already a large number of 1080p HDTV sets on the market, which upconvert all incoming signals, including standard-definition TVs, DVDs, HDTVs and PCs, to their panels? native resolution of 1920x1080 pixels. Ironically, these 1080p televisions can not accept a 1080p signal. Yes, you read that correctly.

If you already own a 1080p HDTV, it is highly probable that you won?t be able to provide it with a 1080p signal from a PlayStation 3 or a Blu-ray Disc or an HD-DVD player. The good news is that the first 1080p input capable televisions are on the way and if you are planning to get a big screen HDTV, this is the perfect time to invest in a future-proof television.

And:

With the new models from Samsung and Mitsubishi not arriving until later this year, HP?s two rear-projection DLPs (the HP Pavilion MD5880n and HP MD6580n) are currently best, future-proof HDTV sets you can get.

These two rear-projection high definition televisions share all the same specs except for the screen size. The first thing that caught my attention was their ability to accept native and compressed 1080p signals at 24/30/60 frames per second through any of their two HDMI inputs. In addition, the component input can also accept 1080p signals, but at 24 and 30 frames per second.

The remaining specs are remarkable as well, including the 150-watt lamp, the 12,000:1 contrast ratio, the built-in ATSC and CableCARD? tuners, the use of a seven-segment color wheel and the lighted front connectivity bay, where you?ll find all types of audio and video connectors, hid by a flip-down cover. This cover also hides the lamp compartment, which is accessible from the front. These rear-projection DLP televisions feature the smartest design ever seen on this type of HDTV set. You can check out the complete spec sheet for the MD5880n here and for the MD6580n right here.

All the bells and whistles come at a steep price, with the MD5880n selling for $3,499.99 and the MD6580n available at $4,499.99. We expect HP to lower the price of these televisions after other manufacturers release high-definition television with similar specs.


Samsung

Samsung got our top spot in the rear-projection microdisplay category of the TeamXbox.com Guide to HDTV with their 56? 1080p offer, the HL-R5688W and the HL-R5678W. If you visit the Samsung website, you'll notice that those models have already been archived. The reason for that is Samsung will ship their new, Gen 7 DLP line-up (announced back in January at CES) later this month.

Samsung?s 87 series is the 7th generation of high-end 1080p televisions from the company, which for the first time will feature 1080p input capabilities.

Anyways, make sure to read the fine print on whatever HDTV set you buy... that low low bargain price may end up costing you.

 

[frankgomez75]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
I was under the impression that the players can output 1080p it is just the input issue of the TV/monitor from my understanding primarily. Even the new HD-DVDs say 1080p on the back of them.

Heres the problem.... the HD-DVD's and Bluray Discs themselves are mastered at 1080P, its the HD-DVD Players currently available that cannot output a 1080P signal.

HDDVD.Highdefdigest.com

Now, the bad news. There are very few HD display devices on the market today that can accept a 1080p input (we're using one of them, the HP Pavilion 65" DLP RPTV, as the centerpiece of our reference system), but then Toshiba's two first-gen HD-DVD players (the HD-A1 and its slightly snazzier cousin, the HD-XA1) can only output 1080i anyway. That means the performance you can get today out of these first HD-DVD discs is a slight notch down from full 1080p, but rest assured, it can still deliver one hell of a picture, and is certainly a major leap forward in image quality over even the best standard DVD image.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
The picture improvement isn't worth the bloated 500 bucks.

n00b. 3-6x more res is nothing to sneeze at. and people don't exactly pay chump change for large screen hdtv's that fill every electronics shops show rooms..they don't spend chump change on the home theater sound systems. u think an extra 500 is too much for marked improvement in video quality using their equipment to the full potential?

i mean sure its not for u if u still have a 27" crt.. but high end tech is never for such people. doesn't mean it'llfail

 

[konichiwa]

Mmmmmm westinghouse.....

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: JMWarren
Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.

Yeah, it has been a rare occurence that I've downloaded something more than 11GB. It's not impossible, you'll just be running the download for a few days (and you may need to invest in a new hard drive if you need more space)

 

[Eeezee]

nevermind...

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I am going to go out on a limb and declare HD-DVD the winnar:

1) Earlier market penetration/recognition.
2) HD-DVD sounds a lot like DVD.
3) Cheaper. Discs are cheaper to make. Players are cheaper.

just to play devil's advocate:

1) If Sony actually puts Blu-Ray in the ps3, that's a huge victory. That's millions of users.

2) Seven of the eight major movie studios have already announced titles for Blu-ray, including Warner, Paramount, Fox, Disney, Sony, MGM and Lionsgate.

3) I would argue that HD-DVD sounding like DVD is BAD. Consumers need to know it's a completely different product. They need a reason to upgrade. Inevitably people will say "Hey, I have a DVD player. I'm sure it can play HD-DVD!"

But when they can't, they'll call someone and they'll tell them to buy the HD-DVD player. That would work in favor of HD-DVD

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: tangent1138



ps
What they should be working on is this:

an HD disc which plays HD content, seamlessly has a DVD image in it to play in regular DVD players, and 400 mb mpeg-4 version which can be transfered over to an ipod for commuters.

I believe this would make many consumers happy.

The discs would cost too much for the consumer. Making that work in a standard DVD player would be tough, and the R&D costs will get passed on to us. It's cheaper and more profitable to just have a completely new format that won't work in the old players.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: venk
:Q

F



A



P


:Q

I hope you didn't do your fapping right there at Best Buy.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Staples
HD DVD is never going to win with only 3 movies and one that anyone would ever see.

Odd, there are over 34 titles released right now. These include movies like Goodfellas, Training Day, Full Metal Jacket, Million Dollar Baby, The Last Samurai, Unforgiving, Bourne Supemacy, The Fugitive, Happy Gilmore and more.

To date, only 14 Blu Ray movies have been released.
Lord of War
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
50 First Dates
Basic Instinct 2
Ultraviolet
House of Flying Daggers
Saw
Hitch
The Fifth Element
The Terminator
Crash
Underworld: Evolution
XXX
The Punisher

So, who has a better selection???

 

[Eeezee]

Hahaha Happy Gilmore in HD, that's got to be awesome 😛

 

[LukFilm]

I have 42" Westinghouse LCD TV in our bedroom and absolutely LOVE IT. Great choice for anyone.

 

[KLin]

Amazon's HD-DVD Store

 

[mrrman]

yeah I saw that last month and it looked great, today I saw the BlueRay at BB and it looked like crap...no difference than my regular DVD setup at home now...its HD all the way baby

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Bah, *cough*

RULE #1 BITCH

- M4H