I just saw the HD DVD Floor Model at Best Buy

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Seriously, I was tempted to drop $500 right there on one of those boxes. Too bad I have that pesky rent check to worry about :p
 

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Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: JMWarren
Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.

You need a bigger hard drive.
 

venk

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: bubbadu
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Bah, *cough* usenet *cough*

You can get hardware on usenet now? :confused:

Yes... this is why one must never speak of usenet and it's hardware downloading capabilities!!

I'd take a perma ban from ATOT for a link to that ;)
 

JMWarren

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: JMWarren
Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.

You need a faster connection.

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BigJ

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Originally posted by: JMWarren
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: JMWarren
Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.

You need a faster connection.

Fixed

Meh. I've got a 10mbit line. I'm fine right now.
 

GTaudiophile

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I am going to go out on a limb and declare HD-DVD the winnar:

1) Earlier market penetration/recognition.
2) HD-DVD sounds a lot like DVD.
3) Cheaper. Discs are cheaper to make. Players are cheaper.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: JMWarren
Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.

:laugh:
 

whistleclient

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I am going to go out on a limb and declare HD-DVD the winnar:

1) Earlier market penetration/recognition.
2) HD-DVD sounds a lot like DVD.
3) Cheaper. Discs are cheaper to make. Players are cheaper.

just to play devil's advocate:

1) If Sony actually puts Blu-Ray in the ps3, that's a huge victory. That's millions of users.

2) Seven of the eight major movie studios have already announced titles for Blu-ray, including Warner, Paramount, Fox, Disney, Sony, MGM and Lionsgate.

3) I would argue that HD-DVD sounding like DVD is BAD. Consumers need to know it's a completely different product. They need a reason to upgrade. Inevitably people will say "Hey, I have a DVD player. I'm sure it can play HD-DVD!"

 

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I am going to go out on a limb and declare HD-DVD the winnar:

1) Earlier market penetration/recognition.
2) HD-DVD sounds a lot like DVD.
3) Cheaper. Discs are cheaper to make. Players are cheaper.

The disc costs look to be negligable... but the players are 2x as much for the cheapest blueray (that will be significant). Alot of blurays success will depend on the ps3 and how good of a player it is/how cheap.

I plan on getting the hd-dvd addon for the 360 provided its not too much $.

Originally posted by: tangent1138
2) Seven of the eight major movie studios have already announced titles for Blu-ray, including Warner, Paramount, Fox, Disney, Sony, MGM and Lionsgate.

And universal is hddvd only... on that list fox, disney, sony, mgm and lionsgate are blueray only (with disney probably going to both formats soon). To me universal roughly equals all the blueray exclusive studios (and definately will if disney moves to both).

I will say right now blueray has more potenital for content but so far its supporting studios havent brought alot of the A movies to the table.... there are alot but one thing universal is doing well is bringing their a movies at the start (well pretty close to it)
 

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: JMWarren
Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.

:laugh:

:laugh:I'll giggle along, too :laugh: (and i'm only on a 3Mb connection :eek: )
 

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What they should be working on is this:

an HD disc which plays HD content, seamlessly has a DVD image in it to play in regular DVD players, and 400 mb mpeg-4 version which can be transfered over to an ipod for commuters.

I believe this would make many consumers happy.
 

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HD DVD is never going to win with only 3 movies and one that anyone would ever see.
 

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: JMWarren
Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.

:laugh:

Why do you laugh? When you find a decent server, how long does it take to download an entire HD movie? Is HD content streamable yet? By the time you download your movie, in the near future I can go rent an HD-DVD, watch it, cut my nails, get a BJ, do my taxes, and still have time for other miscellanous tasks.
 
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Originally posted by: JMWarren
Downloading HD content is a ways off (legal or otherwise). Compression has got to get better or bandwidth has to increase. It's just too much data.

/looks at alt.binaries.hdtv and alt.binaries.hdtv.repost

/looks at HD folder on H.D

/looks at *.ts 15GB file queued up for tonight's entertainment

Nah, it'd be crazy to think you could download full bandwidth HDTV online.. It's unpossible!

 

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I read somewhere else that it takes 20-some seconds to even load a HDDVD movie - this is before anything even displays, so you still have to wait through the warnings/etc before the movie starts.

Apparently there's also a firmware update out for it now - although they make it easy by having an ethernet jack right on the back. Hopefully that's not going to be a feature of all these next-gen DVD players, because there's a lot of people out there without broadband (or an ethernet jack right next to their TV)/

I don't know - all the copyright BS and having to re-buy all my movies (at a more expensive price) really turns me off to this. Then again, I haven't seen it in person (I don't trust BestBuy since if they're doing side by side demos, they're probably hooking up the regular DVD player with RCA jacks to make the HDDVD pucture even more stunning to move units)