If you guys wanna see something incredible, go to this site , scroll down on the left side in the "other" section and look at my friend Gary's video clips. There you will see a 1985 Reliant that runs 10.53's @ 130+!!! My favorite quote of his is when I asked him why: "it's light, it's cheap, and what's worse than being beaten by a K-car".
Come back when you can do 2 things: 1. Know what you're talking about. 2. Actually read what someone wrote before you try and refute them, especially in a subject that you clearly aren't well-versed in.
I specifically said, that IN THE THREAD ORIGINATOR'S CASE, running at the strip wouldn't hurt it. I also said that if he had more or a hot rod, or at least a more powerful car, then it may well be more of a shock to run it at the strip. (e.g., putting slicks on a Mustang is obviously more of a strain than launching with no traction on the street)
Here is the quote I originally responded to:
Ok, what is this car we're speaking of NOT designed to do? Put your foot in the floor and accelerate to 60-70 mph? How many times in the life of a car does this happen? Hundreds? Thousands? Well, then 4-5 times one day at the track won't cut into that number too much.
I suppose we should have clarification whether the car is a stick or not, but if not, then there is absolutely no difference in booting it up the on ramp onto the freeway than running it 1/8 or 1/4 mile. It's going to be running roughly the same speed at the end. It won't spin a tire, so there's no added wear there.
You mention "over and over again at the track". Just how many times do you think he'd get to run it? Here's a hint: not that many. There are usually so many cars at the track on days they let street cars run that you're lucky to get in 4-5 runs.
It's not like he has a bracket race car that he's going to be taking to the track every weekend, making hundreds of runs a year. He just wanted (sounds like to me) to (a) see what the car would do, and (b) experience running at a dragstrip.
That car wouldn't see any significant decrease in life expectancy from one afternoon of playing at the track.
Also keep in mind that if this guy is the type of person to even go to the track and see what his car will do, then he's also the type of person that's not above running it hard on the street, either. I've done plenty of racing on both the street(years ago) and the strip, and I can assure you that my car wasn't run any harder on the strip than the street.....you do whatever it takes to win. Nobody holds back on the street or the track. The only difference is that at the track, it's legal. (which is where everyone SHOULD do their racing)
I read Corolla so let me throw this in:
You can do ANYTHING to a Corolla and it will not break! You can run it at redline for 10seconds straight and nothing happens. You can drop it from D to 2 (on the 3-spd auto) at 60km/h while flooring it and nothing will happen. You can make it go oversnowbanks and nothing will happen.
Corollas are INDESTRUCTIBLE (atleast my '91 was..and it was rear-ended by a Ford F150..still kept on ticking though..just rattled after the accident).
Finally, you can take any car to the drag strip! FWD, RWD, AWD, anything..motorbikes, bicycles (that would be funny..hehe), scooters, Razors, anything with wheels!
Its all about having fun!
You can do ANYTHING to a Corolla and it will not break! You can run it at redline for 10seconds straight and nothing happens. You can drop it from D to 2 (on the 3-spd auto) at 60km/h while flooring it and nothing will happen. You can make it go oversnowbanks and nothing will happen.
Corollas are INDESTRUCTIBLE (atleast my '91 was..and it was rear-ended by a Ford F150..still kept on ticking though..just rattled after the accident).
Finally, you can take any car to the drag strip! FWD, RWD, AWD, anything..motorbikes, bicycles (that would be funny..hehe), scooters, Razors, anything with wheels!
Its all about having fun!
Mad Indian, exactly my point. I gave my advice based solely on the type of car the guy has. If he had something a little hotter, like a Mustang or something, I wouldn't have told him it will not hurt it.
Don't forget snowmobiles, they don't worry about traction eitherOriginally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Finally, you can take any car to the drag strip! FWD, RWD, AWD, anything..motorbikes, bicycles (that would be funny..hehe), scooters, Razors, anything with wheels!
Its all about having fun!
can we all just agree to disagree? why so much anger.
fyi...i ran against a civic hatchback that ran low 9's..of course he was a sponsered professional racer but still...with enough money oyu can make anything go fast...and I also ran against a 97 camaro that ran high 7's...neve rsaw something move that fast before.
so can we just stop teh bickering?
fyi...i ran against a civic hatchback that ran low 9's..of course he was a sponsered professional racer but still...with enough money oyu can make anything go fast...and I also ran against a 97 camaro that ran high 7's...neve rsaw something move that fast before.
so can we just stop teh bickering?
Mid 13s stock... many of them run 11s and 12s modded. Very few are in the 10s. Everybody says they're so heavy... yeah but only a couple hundred pounds heavier than the rest of the imports of it's time. But they also have AWD instead of RWD which makes up for it.
The main problem for 3000GTs is lack of affordable aftermarket support. But they're getting there.
And yes I own a 3000GT... just not a VR4. I only ran 15.8 stock... with an auto... but that's .5-1 sec faster than I should have been.
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Why imports tend to break driveshafts more than domestics isn't a function of the power or traction, it's simply the fact that to get a good laucnh they MUST be reved high, this shocks the drive train and has a tendancy to break the part with the most play in it (usually the CV joints). By comparison a torquer only needs a few thousand RPM otherwise it's wheelspin city.
Trucks are becoming increasingly popular because people are finding out that although they're heavy, they're also built alot like some of the old school muscle cars. And they're quite easy to work on. They have large engine bays, have pleanty of V8 options, a durable transmission, solid rear axle w/ leaf springs (aka: simplest suspension setup known to man). You can lower the rear by swapping out shackles which doesn't throw the geometry out of whack one bit and is about as simple as removing four bolts and putting them back in. But like I said, they're heavy. My 230HP 5 speed Dakota can only pull down 15's, the 4300Lb estimated weight kinda holds it back. (though the tires still get lit up on 2-3 upshifts, I'm hoping to fix that next week w/ some 285/60R16's)
And you will NEVER understand how hard it is to "drive in a straight line with your foot on the gas" until you go drag racing for yourself.
Trucks are becoming increasingly popular because people are finding out that although they're heavy, they're also built alot like some of the old school muscle cars. And they're quite easy to work on. They have large engine bays, have pleanty of V8 options, a durable transmission, solid rear axle w/ leaf springs (aka: simplest suspension setup known to man). You can lower the rear by swapping out shackles which doesn't throw the geometry out of whack one bit and is about as simple as removing four bolts and putting them back in. But like I said, they're heavy. My 230HP 5 speed Dakota can only pull down 15's, the 4300Lb estimated weight kinda holds it back. (though the tires still get lit up on 2-3 upshifts, I'm hoping to fix that next week w/ some 285/60R16's)
And you will NEVER understand how hard it is to "drive in a straight line with your foot on the gas" until you go drag racing for yourself.
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