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DRDEATH

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10 seconds our less is fast.... which can easily/reliably and (mind you), cheaply be done with a Big Block V8. screw imports
 

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I didn't see a single 10 second car there and half the cars I saw were domestics.

The fastest domestic I saw was a 12 sec LS1 camaro.

 

toph99

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Originally posted by: OuterSquare
I didn't see a single 10 second car there and half the cars I saw were domestics.

The fastest domestic I saw was a 12 sec LS1 camaro.

with high temperature and high elevation, lots of the cars in the 13's would probably be in the 12's at sea level. were there any super/turbocharged domestics there?
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: OuterSquare
I didn't see a single 10 second car there and half the cars I saw were domestics.

The fastest domestic I saw was a 12 sec LS1 camaro.

You don't see many 10 seconds cars at street legal drags because, well, they're not street legal. Go back on a test and tune day and you'll see some damn fast cars. I'm remembering a turbo mustang with a 351 in it that ran 10.2 at 80something mph because he only had his foot on the gas for half the track. but, if most of the imports at your track run 14s and 15s, they're faster than our track. Most of the imports here run 15s and 16s.

There was a newer supra, mk4, but it was relatively slow, 14 secs. Probably non turbo.
Or an all stock turbo model.
 

Keego

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My roommate wants a fast car, I just want a Humvee so I can run over his fast car.
 

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Originally posted by: toph99


with high temperature and high elevation, lots of the cars in the 13's would probably be in the 12's at sea level. were there any super/turbocharged domestics there?

I don't know, I stood in the spectator area so I couldn't really tell. Most of the domestics were 4.6 mustangs though.


 

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: OuterSquare
I didn't see a single 10 second car there and half the cars I saw were domestics.

The fastest domestic I saw was a 12 sec LS1 camaro.

You don't see many 10 seconds cars at street legal drags because, well, they're not street legal. Go back on a test and tune day and you'll see some damn fast cars. I'm remembering a turbo mustang with a 351 in it that ran 10.2 at 80something mph because he only had his foot on the gas for half the track.

:Q:Q:Q


but, if most of the imports at your track run 14s and 15s, they're faster than our track. Most of the imports here run 15s and 16s.


hahaha, it was because of you and that one 18 second civic thread a long ass time ago I figured that my car wouldn't be too slow compared to everyone else. Little did I know. :Q

But yeah I think it's also where you live. No offense, but when I think sacramento, I don't think 'import performance capital'.




 

bUnMaNGo

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Originally posted by: OuterSquare
I didn't run tho, tech inspections closed at 12. I probably wouldn't have seeing what was there.

Soooo many fixed up imports and they were actually pretty fast too, even the hondas. The majority was like 14, 15 sec civics, integras and eclipses but I saw a civic go 12 something. :Q

That was certainly no worse than the mustangs which also mostly ran 14s or 15s.

Oh yeah before you crap in here about 14 and 15 being slow, it was about 100 degrees when I was there. Elevation is about 1k feet.

where'd you go? My friend went to Fontana in his Eclipse GS-T today... ran a 13.6@109mph if I remember correctly... said something might be wrong with his fuel pump though :/
 

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Originally posted by: bUnMaNGo


where'd you go? My friend went to Fontana in his Eclipse GS-T today... ran a 13.6@109mph if I remember correctly... said something might be wrong with his fuel pump though :/


I went to Fontana also. :)

That's a pretty good time he got.

Yeah there were a couple of nice eclipses there.
 

Pacfanweb

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I have a friend who has a Mustang he races at the "fastest street car" class at the Mustang shows. It has over 1200 hp AT THE REAR WHEELS (5.4liter turbocharged) and it is a street car like I'm an NFL quarterback.

Yes, I said over 1200 hp. It's not very easy to get down the track on 10" slicks. ;)
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
i wanna take the girl in my grades 300gt twinturbo all wheel drive to a drag strip! and her of course hehe its so freakin fast!

Not really...
 

thomsbrain

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Originally posted by: GSOYF
I can't stand ricers

Thank you for that important and informing post. We can tell you are both well informed and a prolific writer.
rolleye.gif


FWD sedans just aren't built to run down dragstrips.

What exactly is the difference between running down a strip, and getting on the freeway and heading to the fast lane with your foot to the floor, as many people do twice a day, every single workday, as they hit the road to work, in FWD sedans that will be at 175K and still running when they get sold? Pacfanweb 0wned you. ;)
 

Evadman

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Awww crap! You just reminded me that I was suppoed to meat some friends at Rt. 66 dragway today! Damnit!!
 

amdskip

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Bah, thats nothing. I love watching chevelles, camaro's, etc. like late 60's through the 70's, that are street legal and run low 7's.

IHRA has a cruiser class that every car must go out on the highway and cruise something like 10 miles, go back to the dragstrip, leave the hood shut, don't add any gas/alcohol, and race. This class is nuts because they look at every aspect of the car. Running out of fuel is a possibility because they don't have 20 gallon tanks, more like 5 gallon fuel cells. Talk about some high horsepower cars here. These cars are all beautiful and much of them is original parts.

My dad lost 3rd round today. Ran 8.30's @ 156-158 today.
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: OuterSquare
Originally posted by: John
Why would you want to run your Corolla down the strip?


Why not? I've heard of people taking 19 second s10 pick ups to dragstrips just for the sake of it. Everyone has to start somewhere right?

I mean I take it there is no NHRA regulation against corollas or anything.

If you want to do it, that's your decision. Just be careful not to tear the car up. FWD sedans just aren't built to run down dragstrips.

Edit: Golden member. <special Ed voice> Yaaaayyyy....</special Ed voice>

Obviously you've never been in a car with 'Square behind the wheel.;):D:)
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Running the car on the dragstrip is absolutely no different than flooring it from a stoplight, at least with a car that slow. You aren't saying that Toyota didn't build the car to withstand being floored, are you?
It is best to know what you are talking about before you offer advice.

Repeated, full-throttle runs are different from flooring it from a stoplight. Running any car hard like that at a track will increase the wear and tear on it. And yes, I have actually run my car at a dragstrip. I welcome any certified mechanic (or someone with extensive experience) to tell me that running a car at a strip doesn't do any more harm than normal driving. In which case, I will shut up and sit down so to speak.

Most people probably don't drop the clutch at 5000rpm at the stoplight either, redline every gear and hold the peddle down the entire time.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Awww crap! You just reminded me that I was suppoed to meat some friends at Rt. 66 dragway today! Damnit!!

Most people stick to the bedroom for that kinda stuff.

Viper GTS
 

Balthazar

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Running the car on the dragstrip is absolutely no different than flooring it from a stoplight, at least with a car that slow. You aren't saying that Toyota didn't build the car to withstand being floored, are you?
It is best to know what you are talking about before you offer advice.

Repeated, full-throttle runs are different from flooring it from a stoplight. Running any car hard like that at a track will increase the wear and tear on it. And yes, I have actually run my car at a dragstrip. I welcome any certified mechanic (or someone with extensive experience) to tell me that running a car at a strip doesn't do any more harm than normal driving. In which case, I will shut up and sit down so to speak.

Then shut up, and sit down. I am one. And I've been down the dragstrip more times than you've put gas in your car. So I think I am speaking from quite a bit of experience here.

If he was running a car that was pretty fast, you'd have a point. But he's running a freaking 20 second Corolla. That car doesn't have enough power to pull your dlck out of your pants, much less break something in the powertrain.
Absolutely no difference than nailing it from a stoplight.

Heh, someone here definitely needs to sit down and shut up, and I think it might be you....
I don't give a rats ass if it's a 20 second car or not, you are beyond retarded if you think your car just loves running ful bore 20 seconds at a pop, over and over again at a track. IF you really are as "qualified" (and I loce that term loosely in your case) as you say you are then god help the poor people who bring their vehicles to you to be worked on....

"Oh hell go ahead, punch that bastard every chance you get, it doesnt matter, because we all know that your car can take it, it's those damned performance cars that cant hack it".

K, so your saying that a performance car, with performance parts, can't handle being run hard as well as a stock car, with stock parts?

Those stock parts were meant for soccer moms and ballet dads to ahul their kids around, hardly the market where punching at every stoplight is neccisary, and certainly not repeatedly....

Why the heck am I even arguing this point with you?

YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!
 

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Originally posted by: Balthazar


Those stock parts were meant for soccer moms and ballet dads to ahul their kids around, hardly the market where punching at every stoplight is neccisary, and certainly not repeatedly....


I'm not trying to pick sides, but my last two cars were bone stock and I drove them around WOT all day long and it didn't really cause any problems. Both were FWD sedans.
 

Balthazar

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Originally posted by: GSOYF
I can't stand ricers

Thank you for that important and informing post. We can tell you are both well informed and a prolific writer.
rolleye.gif


FWD sedans just aren't built to run down dragstrips.

What exactly is the difference between running down a strip, and getting on the freeway and heading to the fast lane with your foot to the floor, as many people do twice a day, every single workday, as they hit the road to work, in FWD sedans that will be at 175K and still running when they get sold? Pacfanweb 0wned you. ;)

Hmmm, outside of not having a takeoff like you would at a strip (being as how your at a standstill) and the fact that I don't know what kind of geo metro POS you drive but I dont have to come anywhere near flooring it to get well above the speedlimit on the freeway in a hurry, oh outside of MAYBE redlining it in one gear, at MOST two gears, instead of all 5 (or however many you have in your metro), and if your going to "run all day at the strip" like he said you can you'll be doing it more than twice (well, your metro would get beat pretty quick so maybe not), and I hate to break it to you, but the rougher you are on your car, the shorter time it will have to live, thats just plain simple fact, people who drive their cars like a cheap asian hooker don't have cars that last 175k miles, and if it DOES last that long you can bet it would have made it to 300k had they not been a donkey about it....

To quote an idiot "It is best to know what you are talking about before you offer advice."

Such damned basics and it just rolls right over you your heads....
 

Balthazar

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Originally posted by: OuterSquare
Originally posted by: Balthazar


Those stock parts were meant for soccer moms and ballet dads to ahul their kids around, hardly the market where punching at every stoplight is neccisary, and certainly not repeatedly....


I'm not trying to pick sides, but my last two cars were bone stock and I drove them around WOT all day long and it didn't really cause any problems. Both were FWD sedans.

How many repairs did you have on the life of the car, how long did the car last?

And what the hell, in one breath you are saying that "dont race it because running them like that at a strip is bad for them" and then you turn right around and say "yeah I round it like the seattle SLU cheerleaders and it was FINE"....

Something smells like horse puckey....
 

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Originally posted by: Balthazar


How many repairs did you have on the life of the car, how long did the car last?


The first car was an accord, I got it when it had 80k miles and I drove it very aggressively for 70k before I totalled it.

during that time, the major things it needed were a new water pump, a new master brake cylinder, new CV joints and a new power steering pressure line.

Most of that stuff probably would have needed replacing anyways. The engine and transmission never failed.

The corolla I've driven for around 30k miles and it hasn't needed any mechanical repairs yet. Actually don't drive this car as hard as the accord though because I'd prefer not to wreck another car.



And what the hell, in one breath you are saying that "dont race it because running them like that at a strip is bad for them" and then you turn right around and say "yeah I round it like the seattle SLU cheerleaders and it was FINE"....

Something smells like horse puckey....


I didn't say that. I think you're thinking of some one else.

 

CraigRT

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you probably haven't seen the fastest civic :p

the apex blue 3 door civic that has 722 HP and runs high 9's. that's a quick little one

at sparta drag strip (near where i live) in the finale he raced a done up 911 turbo and the civic beat the other car by about a hundredth of a second.. it was freaking sweet!!!

hopefully my car is around 14 flat maybe high 13's by next year. seeing as i am going forced air induction. ;):D
 

Balthazar

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Originally posted by: OuterSquare
Originally posted by: Balthazar


How many repairs did you have on the life of the car, how long did the car last?


The first car was an accord, I got it when it had 80k miles and I drove it very aggressively for 70k before I totalled it.

during that time, the major things it needed were a new water pump, a new master brake cylinder, new CV joints and a new power steering pressure line.

Most of that stuff probably would have needed replacing anyways. The engine and transmission never failed.

The corolla I've driven for around 30k miles and it hasn't needed any mechanical repairs yet. Actually don't drive this car as hard as the accord though because I'd prefer not to wreck another car.



And what the hell, in one breath you are saying that "dont race it because running them like that at a strip is bad for them" and then you turn right around and say "yeah I round it like the seattle SLU cheerleaders and it was FINE"....

Something smells like horse puckey....


I didn't say that. I think you're thinking of some one else.

ah had, yes, twas heisenblurger or whomever....sorry bout that, damned mozilla is rendering the forums wierd (do NOT use 1.2, it sucks a$$)