Question I have lost 2 x 5600g in a span of 2 months.

[aigomorla]

I swear there is something seriously wrong with the 5600G.
I built both machines.

CPU's came sealed.
First cpu died in 3 weeks from my niece gaming on it probably 6 hours every day.
Second cpu died from my Cousin watching movies a little under 2 months.
Both systems were built near the same time as each other... maybe a week apart.
Both CPU's were not overclocked... setting set to AUTO. (is AUTO killing them?)
Both CPU's were on B550 chipset... (should i have used a X570 or a A520)
Both Systems had 32GB of DDR4 ram @ 3600mhz in XMP mode. (1.35V)
Both CPU's were on Aftermarket Noctua / Bequiet Coolers... no stock cooling here.

Both people reported before the system died, they had display port connection issues.

Did i win/lose majorly in a silicone lottery?
Or can someone tell me where i messed up?

Its only the 5600G also, i have built a few Ryzen systems from 1800X, 2700, 3600, 5700X, and 5900X.
I am wondering if the IGP on the 5000 series, is fragile.

But yes i am 100% sure the CPU is dead.
It will post go into bios, but when it goes to load windows, it freezes.
I can't even do a reformat on the OS, as the systems won't go past post.

Dropped in a different CPU, and system behave's normally.
I have now made is manditory for me to have a spare 3600 laying around incase those 2 come back after getting RMA'd.

But just a heads up, as i know a IGP's are a thing now with dedicated gpu prices being expensive.

 

[mikeymikec]

I have at least 4 5600Gs in customers' computers I built (I just counted the in-place upgrades I've done for Win11 compatibility), typically B450 chipset mobos (ASUS), no failures.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I thought game mode was to turn off the extra CVS.

I don't know my friend. I'm relating practical hands on experience, that's all.

Check out this Time Spy info for the CPU. That temp is with a wraith prism in silent mode IIRC.

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/26642278

After toggling the game mode on in the UEFI HWiNFO voltages and temps all dropped from the MSI OOB settings.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Now it has Holo.iso on it. I need to throw ChimeraOS on there next to play with.

Kinda delighted with the following bit:

If you have an NVIDIA GPU, You're on your own. Latest Valve updates for Steam client including normal and Jupiter bootstraps have broken gamepadui on NVIDIA GPUs, and if so, no support will be provided for you.

 

[moinmoin]

Kinda delighted with the following bit:

Technically you are not "on your own" but have to "ask the support" (by Nvidia in this case, for its closed source driver) like it's customary for closed source Windows friends. I'd guess much fewer people would use Windows if they were told they are "on their own" instead the usual "just ask the support" (or any poor sod voluntarily posing as such).

 

[Shmee]

I traded my last one away in a build to a friend for a semi auto shotgun and a pump shotgun. My 5700G is still humming along with the ARC 750LE. Had to disable the Vega iGPU as it did not play nice with the Intel card.

That seems like quite the trade. I figure a used 5600G is worth around $100, which seems like a very cheap price for 2 shotguns. I guess it would depend on the condition and models though.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

That seems like quite the trade. I figure a used 5600G is worth around $100, which seems like a very cheap price for 2 shotguns. I guess it would depend on the condition and models though.

It was a complete NZXT H500 based build minus a GPU. I gave him a RX 6600 later because I felt bad about the disparity in value.

 

[Thunder 57]

That seems like quite the trade. I figure a used 5600G is worth around $100, which seems like a very cheap price for 2 shotguns. I guess it would depend on the condition and models though.

I had to re-read that too.

I traded my last one away in a build

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Who knows how much that build cost? It still sounds like a pretty good deal though.

 

[aigomorla]

What do you men by "hard set every voltage to what it just needs". Unless it a max voltage setting, I don't want to change any voltage settings because they tend to mess up power saving/temps.

It means to lock in voltages and not leave things on AUTO if its for the CPU.
And if your more experienced, even downvolting the CPU would be more preferable, but that would require several hours of stress testing to make sure your voltages were adaqaute.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I had to re-read that too.

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Who knows how much that build cost? It still sounds like a pretty good deal though.

Hot deals, for sale/for trade forums + heatware FTW my friend. I paid like $50 for the case, $85 for the B450 Tomahawk, $65 ram, NVME was free from a client upgrade, SATA SSD was $40? PSU was an EVGA 650 gold modular B Stock for $50 shipped on one of their sales. I don't remember what I paid for the 5600G, but it wasn't MSRP. Maybe $200? at the time. The RX 6600 I gave him I paid $125. We were both happy so it's all good.

 

[bononos]

It means to lock in voltages and not leave things on AUTO if its for the CPU.
And if your more experienced, even downvolting the CPU would be more preferable, but that would require several hours of stress testing to make sure your voltages were adaqaute.

Don't think I know enough how to undervolt cpus nowadays, everythings so complicated now. I've only undervolted the ram and reduced the PPT/TDC but I didn't really check to see whether there was a difference in temps. No idea if the cpu even followed the mb bios settings, don't have ryzen master installed because I was afraid that it might screw things up.

 

[DrMrLordX]

don't have ryzen master installed because I was afraid that it might screw things up.

Ryzen Master only "screws things up" if you use it to change RAM settings.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Ryzen Master only "screws things up" if you use it to change RAM settings.

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[DrMrLordX]

My mom mmm my mom my mom ñ NJ BJ no

u wot m8?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Sorry, seizure. Thought it came out kinda humorous.

Though, all I did was rapidly and repeatedly swipe downward on the Android keyboard, so perhaps what resulted is more of an Android AI "fever dream" than anything I intentionally tried to come up with.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Sorry, seizure. Thought it came out kinda humorous.

Though, all I did was rapidly and repeatedly swipe downward on the Android keyboard, so perhaps what resulted is more of an Android AI "fever dream" than anything I intentionally tried to come up with.

Oh no problem. Carry on then!

 

[Harry_Wild]

Move on to the AMD 8000G series! Has better everything and is the same price as the 5600G a year ago or is that 2 years ago in the 8600G!

 

[mikeymikec]

1x 5600G down here:

Question - Dead Ryzen 5600G?

I built a PC a couple of years ago that has worked completely reliably until the other day: the screen went off during use, then the computer wouldn't POST afterwards. I had a hell of a time removing the stock heatsink yesterday evening, installed a spare 2200G I had, and the machine has...

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NB in case anyone is taking notes - B450 chipset, MSI B450M PRO-VDH

 

[511]

Bruh i thought it was a weight loss thread

 

[mikeymikec]

1x 5600G down here:

Question - Dead Ryzen 5600G?

I built a PC a couple of years ago that has worked completely reliably until the other day: the screen went off during use, then the computer wouldn't POST afterwards. I had a hell of a time removing the stock heatsink yesterday evening, installed a spare 2200G I had, and the machine has...

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AMD sent me a 5700G to replace it with! Woop woop!

(more exciting for my customer than for me I guess though... I have to say though, if my 7800X3D went belly-up and AMD replaced it with the next X3D up in the range, that would be a pretty nice consolation prize)

 

[aigomorla]

i think the consensus already is this has to be AMD's most problematic cpu ever.

On another note, i just lost a Gigabyte X870i Aorus Pro ITX board today.
I thought it would be the 9800X3D, but it seems the cpu and ram is fine.
The board wont pick up the cpu or any 9000 series i tried swaping it with, and the 9800X3D boots up fine in my other X870.

 

[Ranulf]

Is it just the 5600g or the 5700g a problem too? Every so often I toy with the idea of updating a 2700x to a 5700g to get rid of a need for a gpu in a server machine.

 

[mikeymikec]

i think the consensus already is this has to be AMD's most problematic cpu ever.

It's a bit odd for the middle child to die though, don't you think?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

i think the consensus already is this has to be AMD's most problematic cpu ever.

I've seen far more reports of Zen 2, especially Ryzen 3600 degradation and deaths. Techyescity and Greg Salazar tried to make beef about it but it never gained traction. I've seen user posts on every board I visit with the same issues they had since then. I think it is because of the timeframe/age of the CPUs, and the cheap upgradability that kept the story from blowing up.

Is it just the 5600g or the 5700g a problem too? Every so often I toy with the idea of updating a 2700x to a 5700g to get rid of a need for a gpu in a server machine.

I wouldn't sweat it. The 5600G I let MSI gaming mode set to 4.7GHz all core took at least 3 years to degrade. I set it to defaults and it is running stable to this day for my friend.

My advice is to immediately set it to ECO mode. The OOB settings on every AM4 board I ever used i.e. a lot, was way too aggressive with vcore.

 

[DZero]

So... the Ryzen APU might end being on the list of the "Worst CPU designs ever" along Crashtor Lake? Or is a lesser case?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

So... the Ryzen APU might end being on the list of the "Worst CPU designs ever" along Crashtor Lake? Or is a lesser case?

If you let the board have its way in retail? It isn't near as bad, but it's bad. If you enable ECO? It's smooth sailing.