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"I have an above average understanding of computers..."

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Demon-Xanth said:
Thermal printers are extremely common. Most receipt printers are just that. The label printer here on my bench I can easily write on with a soldering iron.
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Fax machines were mostly thermal paper years ago. I guess that isn't the case anymore?
 
Crono said:
Take it the other way. Do you expect people with above average understanding of computers to know everything about home theater components or digital sound equipment? Or what about smart phones?

My point is that you can have above average knowledge and not know how much power a printer draws.
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This makes a lot of sense. OP if you're against being too literal, just read Crono's summary of his point and realize it's reasonable. Who cares if his post wouldn't hold in an academic debate? His point is totally clear.
 
Juked07 said:
This makes a lot of sense. OP if you're against being too literal, just read Crono's summary of his point and realize it's reasonable. Who cares if his post wouldn't hold in an academic debate? His point is totally clear.
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Whatever. We can argue this forever and still not resolve it because "greater than average knowledge of computers" can't be quantitatively defined.

Thread fails, I lose, you win. Put another notch in your e-belts. I was only trying to make an amusing thread poking fun at "know it alls". You can all go back to stewing in your Happy Puppy threads.
 
Newegg reviews are helpful, you just have to read the whole thing. My favorite ones are where an individual purchases an item that costs $5 and then gives it one star and complains it lacks features of a similar product that costs $80. The review is still helpful because the person has indirectly indicated the product actually worked at all. When buying something that cheap, I like to see a few indicators that all of them aren't showing up DOA.
 
If the reviewer considers his knowledge "above average" yet doesn't understand printers, then he's overestimating his knowledge. How can you exclude the most common peripheral from your claimed 'expertise?'

Also, the computer/home audio analogy is stupid since those are two completely different areas.
 
AMCRambler said:
Whatever. We can argue this forever and still not resolve it because "greater than average knowledge of computers" can't be quantitatively defined.

Thread fails, I lose, you win. Put another notch in your e-belts. I was only trying to make an amusing thread poking fun at "know it alls". You can all go back to stewing in your Happy Puppy threads.
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meh Im with you

putting that stuff in a review is a joke, especially when followed by a review that proves it isnt true
 
for average, casual use/non gamers/internet user/researcher is it worth building a computer any more? is the off the shelf hrdware good enough? it looks like the new consumer standard is quad core of some sort.
 
I have an above average understanding of computers as well, but apparently a below average understanding of UPS devices. Why would it matter to the UPS how much juice the printer draws unless the UPS were activated due to a power outage? Also, I plug many devices into my UPS, even ones that don't need uninterrupted power. My UPS (and most UPS devices I have seen) have separate outlets for devices that don't need to be powered during an outage.
 
lxskllr said:
Fax machines were mostly thermal paper years ago. I guess that isn't the case anymore?
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Plain paper fax uses laser printing and it's much better. The curling is annoying too!

Thermal printing is not very good especially for record keeping. In lower latitudes if you leave a printed receipt in the sun in just a few hours it turns black! 😱

torpid said:
I have an above average understanding of computers as well, but apparently a below average understanding of UPS devices. Why would it matter to the UPS how much juice the printer draws unless the UPS were activated due to a power outage? Also, I plug many devices into my UPS, even ones that don't need uninterrupted power. My UPS (and most UPS devices I have seen) have separate outlets for devices that don't need to be powered during an outage.
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This is why a UPS will have passthrough outlets that provide basic (hash+VSP) protection like a surge protector only and battery backed up outlets. The latter should NEVER be connected to a high powered device such as a laser printer unless the UPS is large enough AND the manufacturer explicitly defines such use/operation is allowed.

This happens because the inverter's output is very limited compared to the branch circuit ampacity and overloading it with the load signature of a laser printer can often damage its output transistors faster than the input (battery) fuse can interact. The fastest fuse is indeed a transistor. 😉
 
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Saw a review of a USB wireless adapter. Guy gave it one star because "well I know a think or two about computers and this thing apparently didn't install properly. Called tech support and they were useless."

Given the nature of the hardware, it probably came with drivers and he plugged it in before installing them. Anyone who knows a "thing or two about computers" would have posted more detail.
 
The average computer user is pretty stupid, and above average may just mean they know the cd tray isn't a cup holder.
 
People who are worse at a certain task or skill set tend to overstate or overestimate their ability in that skill set. Just like how 80% of people think they're above average drivers.
 
Crono said:
Yeah, I ignore the Egg ratings, but the reviews can be helpful. Especially when users list their specific system specs or alert you of possible issues.
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This is all the reviews are really good for. What specs a certain piece of hardware worked with.
 
Yeah NewEgg reviews crack me up. My favorite thing is when someone rates down a product because of a missing feature or whatever that was blatantly obvious if they would have bothered looking at the product pictures or reading the specs *before* buying. As if it's the fault of the manufacturer that they're too stupid/lazy to do research before buying.

I also think it's kind of unfair to give a product one egg just because you got a DOA. I don't care how good a company's quality control is, duds are going to roll of the line, it's just inevitable. It can happen with any part, no matter how high the quality. Better to wait until you get a replacement, and if it works, then leave like 3 or 4 eggs if the new one worked and you're satisfied with the product.

Also, if you get a part replaced four times, for example, and none of them work, it's time to stop blaming the part and start looking elsewhere for the problem. The probability of receiving more than two DOA parts in a row is ridiculously small. Either something else in your system is broken, there's some kind of compatibility issue, or you're installing something wrong.
 
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frostedflakes said:
Yeah NewEgg reviews crack me up. My favorite thing is when someone rates down a product because of a missing feature or whatever that was blatantly obvious if they would have bothered looking at the product pictures or reading the specs *before* buying. As if it's the fault of the manufacturer that they're too stupid/lazy to do research before buying.
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Those are my favorite
 
I killed a UPS I had at home by plugging my laser printer into it. Had no idea until that happened that you weren't supposed to, though I had an inkling that it used a hell of a lot of power when on. It's not something I'd expect even an expert in computers to know.
 
Crono said:
Printers are peripherals. It's possible to have "above average knowledge" (it doesn't take much knowledge of computers to be above average, by the way) of computers and not know a lot about printers or networked copiers.

I don't see how he's the "tard".
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This
 
Crono said:
Printers are peripherals. It's possible to have "above average knowledge" (it doesn't take much knowledge of computers to be above average, by the way) of computers and not know a lot about printers or networked copiers.

I don't see how he's the "tard".
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he used the wireless instructions!
reading the user instructions is for noobs XD

anyway it's true, above average knowledge is very low.
30% of the population in europe doesn't have ADSL. Most of them are old maybe, but that still influences the average.
He was able to shop online for a printer and post a review, that means he actually has an above the average technical insight.
 
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