I have a question for people with kids

[gar3555]

Originally posted by: LemonHead

Originally posted by: tw1164
I never heard of glass fence.

Me too......do you have pics of said fence?

Google is your friend: Glass Fence Images

 

[ivan2]

if a football thrown by a kid can damage your glass fence, you need new and better glass fence anyway. good thing that she paid, now u can have better glass fence.

 

[stinkynathan]

home owner's insurance?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: dreadpiratedoug

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Pick up the child and beat your friend to death with it.

What does he do with the child afterwards?

I heard their asses are sweet and tender.

/Albert Fish

Well, I'm hungry. Time for lunch.

 

[torpid]

Glass fence? Sounds useless. Is your vacation home made out of chocolate and ice?

Anyway, you were right and she was wrong.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: gar3555

Originally posted by: LemonHead

Originally posted by: tw1164
I never heard of glass fence.

Me too......do you have pics of said fence?

Google is your friend: Glass Fence Images

i live on a large river and our neighbor just installed one of these. hed lived down here for years and years and never had one on his deck facing the river (not near it, just facing it)

i think the new neighbors (the wife is nice, the husband seems to be a prick) probably clued in the county inspectors. the guy put up a glass fence so he could still see the river easily.

i never noticed it from the river until my dad pointed it out.

 

[TruePaige]

Glass fence eh? Kinda cool, but if they can break easy, why just not leave the space open? Seems a lil' impractical.. still..cool looking.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: woodie1
Her kid did the damage so she should have offered to pay for the repairs when she apologized. It's not like she wasn't there to see who caused the damage. I'd not let any of mine damage someones property without offering to pay for the damage. You should let her know what the repair cost is but don't count on receiving any money. She sounds like a class act.

DING DING DING

The faux pass was on her part, especially consider she invited herself over.

Ask someone to see their newly remodeled house AND bring a kid AND have kid break shit AND THEN not offer to pay? WTF...

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

That funny look on her face wasn't indignation. It was the conflicted look all parents have when they are simultaneously calculating the cost of a repair and the extent to which they are going to beat the living daylights out of the offending child.

Seriously, she might not have realized that repairing the fence was going to require a service call, but regardless she should not have been surprised by you expecting her to cover for the child's errant behavior.

I dont know how much time she had between the fence being broken and you voicing your plan to calc the expense, but she might not have had enough time to process of the situation. A parent might first be focused on discipline and safety, and then repairs and restoration. Those could take a while to cycle through depending on the circumstance.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: Dirigible
You (or your kids) break it, you buy it.

I'm a father, and that's my motto.

Ditto

 

[waggy]

hmm i seem to remember reading about something like this. a guy called over a friend who brought his kid. he allowed them in the back yard. the kid found a ball/bat and hit it. the ball hit a window.

The parents refused to pay it. the guy sued and lost. Why? he takes some responsibly in what happened. not to mention the kid was just being a kid. he picked up a ball/bat and played. i can't remember the reasons for it. seemed fucked up to me.


but personally i think you were in the right.

 

[sactoking]

If the kid is younger than 7 the parent is not liable for the cost of the damage. Courts hold that children aged 6 or younger cannot be held liable for their negligence, since their capacity to reason is not fully developed. If the child has no liability, then the parent has no liability.

 

[MustISO]

Sweet, I'm gonna find me a group of 6 year old bank robbers.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: MustISO
Sweet, I'm gonna find me a group of 6 year old bank robbers.

falls under different laws. you would be arrested for corrupting a minor or such heh

 

[Gooberlx2]

You have a fence made of glass?

Anyway, maybe it was your tone..."I'll send you a bill" is too quick and to the point. You're supposed to lament over how expensive that'll be to fix, and then stand with her and stare at it for a while before "asking" her to cover the costs.

Or maybe she was indignent because she was just pissed at her kid....or because she thinks having a glass fence is a retarded idea anyway.

 

[KaOTiK]

Pics of friend and fence?

Don't feel bad, you are in the right here. Kinda blows my mind actually that she didn't think she would have to pay for the repairs. The kid should know better to throw something at glass as well at that age, and obviously wasn't brought up to respect other peoples property in the first place. I remember I wouldn't touch/do anything without asking my parents or whoever the adult was in charge when I was a kid.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: sactoking
If the kid is younger than 7 the parent is not liable for the cost of the damage. Courts hold that children aged 6 or younger cannot be held liable for their negligence, since their capacity to reason is not fully developed. If the child has no liability, then the parent has no liability.

That's not the point. Anyone with morals would know that if your kid breaks someones shit, you pay to replace it. If my son broke something like a glass fence (wtf?) I would offer to pay for it. What kind of person would think otherwise?

 

[Savij]

Is a glass fence a good idea if a little kid with a football can break sections of it? What about wildlife? Large bird of prey? Rabid geese? Angry rodents?

Edit: Bitch should still pay.
Edit2: Maybe her look was more of an "I'm going to beat the money out of that kid's ass" look.

 

[sactoking]

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
That's not the point. Anyone with morals would know that if your kid breaks someones shit, you pay to replace it. If my son broke something like a glass fence (wtf?) I would offer to pay for it. What kind of person would think otherwise?

Actually, that was the point as it related to the post directly above mine. Kid breaks window, parents refuse to pay, homeowner sues, homeowner loses.

If the kid was 6 or younger, the homeowner wasted their money on court costs.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
get a new friend, she's a wart on society's ass if she doesn't understand this concept

I like the cut of your jib, Mister !

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
That's not the point. Anyone with morals would know that if your kid breaks someones shit, you pay to replace it. If my son broke something like a glass fence (wtf?) I would offer to pay for it. What kind of person would think otherwise?

Actually, that was the point as it related to the post directly above mine. Kid breaks window, parents refuse to pay, homeowner sues, homeowner loses.

If the kid was 6 or younger, the homeowner wasted their money on court costs.

I'm going to need some documentation to back up this claim that the parents of children younger than 7 can't be held accountable financially for any destruction caused by their children. Quite frankly, it sounds like complete bullshit. I'm imagining a highly unrealistic, yet very costly, scenario, whereby some child hits a garage release and drops a garage door on someone's new Ferrari. It's bad, damage estimates topping $50,000. You're telling me that the owner of that car is completely SOL. I don't buy it.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
That's not the point. Anyone with morals would know that if your kid breaks someones shit, you pay to replace it. If my son broke something like a glass fence (wtf?) I would offer to pay for it. What kind of person would think otherwise?

Actually, that was the point as it related to the post directly above mine. Kid breaks window, parents refuse to pay, homeowner sues, homeowner loses.

If the kid was 6 or younger, the homeowner wasted their money on court costs.

I'm going to need some documentation to back up this claim that the parents of children younger than 7 can't be held accountable financially for any destruction caused by their children. Quite frankly, it sounds like complete bullshit. I'm imagining a highly unrealistic, yet very costly, scenario, whereby some child hits a garage release and drops a garage door on someone's new Ferrari. It's bad, damage estimates topping $50,000. You're telling me that the owner of that car is completely SOL. I don't buy it.

nm, you said Can't. my misread. anyway, some states have a cutoff, under which children are found not capable of the requisite intent in intentional tort cases or the standard of care in negligence cases. check your local laws for details.

 

[sactoking]

Each state writes their own statute. 15 seconds of searching found this for Pennsylvania.

It is part of English Common Law adopted by every state except Louisiana that children under the age of 7 cannot be held liable for negligence, children aged 7-14 are determined to hold liability on a case-by-case basis, and children older than 14 can be held liable, barring special circumstances (like insanity).

In Nevada, where I live, a parent or guardian can only be imputed to have liability for a minor's actions if the actions are deemed to have been "willful misconduct". (NRS 41.470)

 

[Cuular]

The lady should have immediately offered to pay for the damages. And then turned around and beat the kid senseless.

When I was young, we had to pay for anything we broke.

We had an allowance system setup where we got payed to do household chores, .05 for washing the dishes, .10 for cleaning a common room of the house, which included dusting, scrubbing, removing items left out by others, spot removing on carpets, etc. and .20 for mowing the lawn.

So we earned our allowance, and every week it was put in a savings account at the bank.

So if we screwed up and broke something at our house or anyone elses we had to pay for it with our own money. It instills a strong sense of responsibility for your and other peoples property.

It annoys the hell out of me that the majority of today's young people have never been taught about working for money, or that property is to be respected, and not messed with.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: sactoking
Each state writes their own statute. 15 seconds of searching found this for Pennsylvania.

It is part of English Common Law adopted by every state except Louisiana that children under the age of 7 cannot be held liable for negligence, children aged 7-14 are determined to hold liability on a case-by-case basis, and children older than 14 can be held liable, barring special circumstances (like insanity).

In Nevada, where I live, a parent or guardian can only be imputed to have liability for a minor's actions if the actions are deemed to have been "willful misconduct". (NRS 41.470)

Wtf? So if some lame ass parent is not watching their 6 year old, and he plays around and burns down someones house...the home owner is fucked and ruined for life? So it's the responsibility of the home owner to watch the kid?

That's it. Anyone with kids is banned from my house. I will, however, use my son as a ninja for people I don't like. He's coming over to my bosses house to play unattended. He'll break some expensive shit within 5 mins, I'm sure.