I hate you diane feinstein, so much.

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: bamacre
Either way, Craig, it doesn't matter. Not one bit. Whether they voted for the war, or let Bush make the decision, it's the same damn thing.

I understand your argument, and I see your point. I just think it's totally irrelevant. They knew what they were doing, and they knew what was going to happen. Why? Because Bush was president, and more importantly, Cheney was VP. PNAC was in charge, and that was obvious. Letting them make the decision is irrelevant, simply because they knew what their decision would be. Sorry, they have blood on their hands, and it doesn't wash away so easily. That's why war is to be declared by Congress, not the President. And handing off their duty to the President doesn't make them innocent. No way, not at all.

Right, it is the Democrats fault that we went to war because they should have known Bush and his Republican administration couldn't be trusted. That's some twisted ass logic there.

Total straw man. I said NO such thing.

Let me say it. The Democrats are a bunch of cowards so intimidated by the patriotic marching moron Republicans that can't wait to say me too, me too, I want to kill people to, I am tough and I will defend the country. If it weren't for the fact that Democrats are fucking cowards we wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq. The Democrats are at fault for the war. Republicans are simply congenital idiots, totally irresponsible for their actions. You expect war for total braid dead morons, not from Democrats. They are guilty. Only they could have stopped the war. They did nothing because they are moral cowards. Got it. Republicans are human scum and Democrats are cowards.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: bamacre
Either way, Craig, it doesn't matter. Not one bit. Whether they voted for the war, or let Bush make the decision, it's the same damn thing.

I understand your argument, and I see your point. I just think it's totally irrelevant. They knew what they were doing, and they knew what was going to happen. Why? Because Bush was president, and more importantly, Cheney was VP. PNAC was in charge, and that was obvious. Letting them make the decision is irrelevant, simply because they knew what their decision would be. Sorry, they have blood on their hands, and it doesn't wash away so easily. That's why war is to be declared by Congress, not the President. And handing off their duty to the President doesn't make them innocent. No way, not at all.

Right, it is the Democrats fault that we went to war because they should have known Bush and his Republican administration couldn't be trusted. That's some twisted ass logic there.

Total straw man. I said NO such thing.

Let me say it. The Democrats are a bunch of cowards so intimidated by the patriotic marching moron Republicans that can't wait to say me too, me too, I want to kill people to, I am tough and I will defend the country. If it weren't for the fact that Democrats are fucking cowards we wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq. The Democrats are at fault for the war. Republicans are simply congenital idiots, totally irresponsible for their actions. You expect war for total braid dead morons, not from Democrats. They are guilty. Only they could have stopped the war. They did nothing because they are moral cowards. Got it. Republicans are human scum and Democrats are cowards.

That sums it nicely, Moonbeam. :thumbsup:

 

[kage69]

See my post above. THC is neurotoxic.

Ahh, now I see you why you completely disregarded the distinction I quoted from the 2nd sentence of the OP's link. Funnier still, you're avoiding owning up to it, but are still acting like you know wtf you're talking about.

You're hung up on inconclusive studies revolving around long term, heavy smoking of cannabis, and don't really have anything of substance to add regarding the method of ingestion as per the OP. With a hang up like that, it's obvious you aren't thinking about this rationally.

If you're going to cling to some smoking fixation, you'd be better off speaking out on the dangers of aspergillus infections in the lungs, instead of echoing the Nixon era paid-for "research" that claims weed kills brain cells. Findings which have been unable to be replicated and verified by all others mind you. Sorry, but the majority of real medical opinion seems to indicate otherwise, hence pot's medicinal use being endorsed by the New England Journal of Medicine, among notable others.

Marin's right, you're an idiot.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: marincounty

Furthermore, from you own link, "Although there is no direct evidence that marijuana is neurotoxic for human brain, some of the memory de?cits associated with its use may be caused by neuronal death in the hippocampus.

Sorry neurotoxic doesnt fit your definition of toxic.


"Marijuana consumption elicits diverse physiological and psychologicaleffects in humans, including memory loss. Here we report that D9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the major psychoactive component of marijuana, is toxic for hippocampal neurons. Treatment of cultured neurons or hippocampal slices with THC caused shrinkage of neuronal cell bodies and nuclei as well as genomic DNA strand breaks, hallmarks of neuronal
apoptosis."


Seriously, if you dont know that MJ kills braincells, you are probably a fucking moron.

No, neurotoxic is not the same as toxic, unless you are a moron.
Seriously, show me the deaths associated with marijuana use, or did you just make that up?

Maybe you are just an idiot, or possibly all of your alcohol use has destroyed your brain?

Yeah, but them maybe you stepped in your own shit. I could be he's a living brain-dead, pot-head exemplar.

 

[kage69]

Show me any information that cannabis is toxic and has killed someone.

Bump for OCguy. I figure if he's so confidant others are foolish and "fucking morons," then answering this question should be easy.

 

[alchemize]

In theory MJ has killed people (accidents related to use), but at the end of the day it's far safer than just about any other drug known to man. And I wouldn't even classify it as a drug, it's really no different than valerian root, tea, coffee, etc., it's an herb that you can extract a drug from.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Amend the legislation to read "not to be sold to someone under 21 unless currently being treated for cancer or other illness where a physician deems this appropriate therapy"

Problem solved.

The problem is that any mainstream doctor will tell you that there are alternatives for medial marijuana and there is really no medical benefit over other drugs.

That depends on the situation. Ondesteron is probably the best oral med but it's efficacy isn't superior to plain old pot. Also a months worth of it is several thousand dollars, and that's the generic.

I'm for what works, and while I wouldn't encourage my kids to smoke, I think it being a schedule I narcotic doesn't make much sense. Seems to me the punishment ought to fit the crime and if I knew of someone who smoked I wouldn't think ill of them unless they let it rule their lives. For chemo treatment? I haven't any problem at all.

Zofran is one of the miracle drugs out there. I've had Rxs for it for stomach/nausea problems.

Multiple uses, no side effects. Just expensive Comes down to laying there in pain and wondering if it's worth $35 to make it stop (cost of 1 pill).

I don't know if your aware of it, but other countries have different views of what a drug patent means. In India, the argument is that no company can patent naturally-occurring substances - only the method of manufacture can be patented. Here's an Indian pharmacy that I've used successfully, and which offers generic Zofran at MUCH lower prices than you cited:

MagicPharma

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) introduced S-258 under the name ?Save Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act of 2009.? The enhanced sentences apply to anyone who sells a Schedule I or II drug to a person under 21 when it is combined with candy or packaged to look like candy.

How many 21 year old and under patients are eligible and have a great need for medical marijuana??

LoL - If you've ever seen the Medical marijuana store fronts in San Francisco and Oakland you'll notice the large group of healthy looking young adults (No doubt with phony prescriptions in hand from doctors who can be bribed to give them out) mixed in with the few truly legitimate terminally sick patients. The system is being abused big time in regards to the handing out of "medical marijuana".

Do you expect every disabled person to look like Johnny B. Cripple?

:disgust:

Not saying there isn't abuse in the system, but who are you to judge? Oh you LOOK healthy so you must be.

Complete bullshit and you know it.

Expecting that those who receive medical marijuana to actually have legitimate medical issues not judging it is asking that people actually be fucking honest. As it stands the actual legitimacy of medical marijuana movement and those who pushed for it in order to "treat terminally sick patients" seems like complete bullshit. All it was is a means to put a foot in the door for the legalization of pot using the sick people as a wedge to appeal to folks. If those who want to legalize pot want to do so then use legitimate methods and ensure the laws are being followed otherwise it appears that the whole medical pot movement was done so that stunners could get high using bunk medical excuses.

Also it doesn't take someone with a medical degree to sit in front of a medical marijuana store and see that a large percentage of young adults there are illegally scamming the system to skirt the current laws. Hell all you'd have to do is engage in a friendly joking conversation with the folks coming out. Again there aren't very many 21 year old or younger children who would qualify or even need medical marijuana edibles. So go cry me a river over this legislation.

 

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[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
How do people who are pro-choice (Sen. Diane Feinstein being one) reconcile the fact that their anti-drug position is a complete contradiction of their pro-choice stance?

so you`ve had one too many beers???

No, dummy, he's making perfect sense. Feinstein is pro-choice on abortion because "she doesn't want the gov't telling women what to do with their own bodies", but when it comes to pot, all of the sudden she's Sen. SuperNanny. That's intellectually inconsistent and complete hypocricy.

stfu!! idiot!! I was making a play on his name....manybeers...

 

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[Double Trouble]

Zombie thread... brought back to life by a spammer peddling weed. Classic

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
That shit head voted for the war in Iraq.

So did Biden and Hillary.

Yeah they were sold on the Bush and Cheney's snowjob

 

[DealMonkey]

Some days I really think Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer have been in office wayyyy too long.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
That shit head voted for the war in Iraq.

So did Biden and Hillary.

Yeah they were sold on the Bush and Cheney's snowjob

So Democrats are gullible?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Patranus
I know someone who has a medical marijuana card for "PMS" and has (in the past) literally gone into a medical marijuana dispensary every other day for a month while she was waiting for the results of the bar exam (and yes, she passed).

I find it interesting that I can't buy large quantities Nyquil (the good stuff) but it is very easy to procure large quantities of marijuana legally.

Look, I couldn't care less what adults do in their own homes on their own time.

nyquil is probably less safe than medical marijuana

 

[Theb]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Patranus
I know someone who has a medical marijuana card for "PMS" and has (in the past) literally gone into a medical marijuana dispensary every other day for a month while she was waiting for the results of the bar exam (and yes, she passed).

I find it interesting that I can't buy large quantities Nyquil (the good stuff) but it is very easy to procure large quantities of marijuana legally.

Look, I couldn't care less what adults do in their own homes on their own time.

nyquil is probably less safe than medical marijuana

Neither of them are nearly as dangerous as Diane Feinstein's weapons grade stupidity

 

[bfdd]

I hate Feinstein so much. I really hope the govenator supports the legalization of marijuana in California. Prohibition is retarded.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
That shit head voted for the war in Iraq.

So did Biden and Hillary.

Yeah they were sold on the Bush and Cheney's snowjob

So Democrats are gullible?

It wasn't gullibility, it was cowardliness.

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: Drift3r


Complete bullshit and you know it.

Expecting that those who receive medical marijuana to actually have legitimate medical issues not judging it is asking that people actually be fucking honest. As it stands the actual legitimacy of medical marijuana movement and those who pushed for it in order to "treat terminally sick patients" seems like complete bullshit. All it was is a means to put a foot in the door for the legalization of pot using the sick people as a wedge to appeal to folks. If those who want to legalize pot want to do so then use legitimate methods and ensure the laws are being followed otherwise it appears that the whole medical pot movement was done so that stunners could get high using bunk medical excuses.

Also it doesn't take someone with a medical degree to sit in front of a medical marijuana store and see that a large percentage of young adults there are illegally scamming the system to skirt the current laws. Hell all you'd have to do is engage in a friendly joking conversation with the folks coming out. Again there aren't very many 21 year old or younger children who would qualify or even need medical marijuana edibles. So go cry me a river over this legislation.

So because some people are scamming the system it should be done away with entirely? Fuck those sick bastards that actually DO need it because some potheads are getting their pot easier?

 

[bfdd]

Prohibition is retarded. I consume weed and alcohol in about the same quantities and I've gotten into more "trouble" with alcohol in my system than marijuana.

 

[Fear No Evil]

I think the Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue. By legalizing pot all of you dumb hippy liberals would just light up and forget to go vote and stimulate the economy with snack sales. Win win for the country.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
That shit head voted for the war in Iraq.

So did Biden and Hillary.

Yeah they were sold on the Bush and Cheney's snowjob

So Democrats are gullible?

How many (R)'s voted against it?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I think the Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue. By legalizing pot all of you dumb hippy liberals would just light up and forget to go vote and stimulate the economy with snack sales. Win win for the country.

They are on the wrong side of most issues so this is not a surprise. :laugh:

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I think the Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue. By legalizing pot all of you dumb hippy liberals would just light up and forget to go vote and stimulate the economy with snack sales. Win win for the country.

The dumb hippy liberals are not paying (federal) tax on their pot. The smart redneck conservatives are paying alcohol taxes which pay for all kinds of things. Thanks.