Spending $400 on a PSP doesn't mean you don't need a laptop. What about reading your email when on vacation? What about taking your laptop on vacation so you have a place to dump your photos when your memory card fills? When you buy a laptop, you can do everything the PSP can AND MORE. When you buy a PSP, it does less than the laptop. Thus you wuold be spending 1400 .... 1000 + 400.
Buy the superior product and that's it.
Deeko: No I don't need a better car or home. I'm saying spend your money on something better. Every product in this world has some use. Why don't you buy everything? That's the case I'm trying to make. You don't have to buy a PSP to be a happy person. Save the money and buy something else more worthwhile. And plenty of kids don't have PSPs. That doesn't mean bad parenting. And so giving your kids a PSP will make them better? If it makes then get better grades, become better people, go to better schools, get better jobs, then great.
Buy the superior product and that's it.
Deeko: No I don't need a better car or home. I'm saying spend your money on something better. Every product in this world has some use. Why don't you buy everything? That's the case I'm trying to make. You don't have to buy a PSP to be a happy person. Save the money and buy something else more worthwhile. And plenty of kids don't have PSPs. That doesn't mean bad parenting. And so giving your kids a PSP will make them better? If it makes then get better grades, become better people, go to better schools, get better jobs, then great.
I find it funny that this wasn't even your original argument, which is probably that it was so flawed to begin with you had to start debating something else completely unrelated.
Your initial argument was that you'd rather play PC games than buy console games, you never said anything about not having to play games to be happy. You're not saving money by playing PC games becuase #1 you have to buy games and in order to continue to play PC games you must update your hardware in order to play those games properly.
The past couple of statements debunk your statement regarding how PC gaming is cheaper than PSP gaming, which shouldn't even be compared in the first place becuase they are vastly different than each other.
Deeko
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You know....much of childhood is not about getting good grades, but its about having fun. I had a Gameboy when I was a kid...my brother had a GameGear. I guess my parents were terrible for wasting that kind of money. And yet, somehow, I'm sure it made long car trips easier, don't you think?
You're also being foolish with your other argument, and are about to get cockslapped. Why the hell should I waste $1000 on a laptop? Can't your material ass last more than a few days without email? Why should you buy a digital camera and waste all that money, thus requiring a laptop to dump pictures on? A $40 35mm camera and a few rolls of cheap film will do the job just as well. What the HELL do you need a $270 MP3 player for? A $20 discman and a $20 pack of blank CD's serves the same purpose.
Keep tryin' bud.
You're also being foolish with your other argument, and are about to get cockslapped. Why the hell should I waste $1000 on a laptop? Can't your material ass last more than a few days without email? Why should you buy a digital camera and waste all that money, thus requiring a laptop to dump pictures on? A $40 35mm camera and a few rolls of cheap film will do the job just as well. What the HELL do you need a $270 MP3 player for? A $20 discman and a $20 pack of blank CD's serves the same purpose.
Keep tryin' bud.
iPod (music) : $300
Pocket PC: $400
Laptop: $1000+
It doesn't replace a portable DVD player?
It doesn't replace an iPod? Or even an iPod photo?
It doesn't replace a Game Boy or a DS?
It doesn't replace a laptop (for the sake of gaming) ?
Mac Mini (no keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, games games more games etc etc acessories): $500
PSP (no games games more games etc etc accessories): $250
Sure. Just buy an iPod photo, portable DVD player, and a laptop. That'll give you plenty of entertainment
Oh, I forgot about that one. Good point.
1- Did you not just say to buy a laptop and an iPod and more?
2- I'm pretty sure spending $400 on a PSP and some games won't determine whether or not I can buy a house or car, let alone how nice it is.
What the fvck does this have to do with anything?
Using your oh-so-superior logic: Why the hell do you need $400 equipment to go on a trip. Just get a book from the library then. Read a magazine goign to work. Read the newspaper and don't just skip to the sports section.
No childhood isn't only about getting 4.0s across the board. I certainly had my share of fun looking back. Could it have been better? Sure. Do I regrett my childhood? Nah. Do I complain I only had 1 game console as a kid and never a portable gaming machine?
Who needs a digital camera? What I took 130 shots for a photo project only to take 1 picture and print it in the end. And you want me to do that 2 nights in a row at 3 AM with a 35mm film camera huh. Maybe you don't enjoy photography like I do but at least you should not tell me to fvck off with my digital camera. If you dont even respect photography then fine don't use a camera. I had to dump photos on my laptop 3 times because my 512mb card couldn't hold anymore. E-mail? Sure I dont need to read my porn everyday, but hello I had to register for classes during vacation once in Japan. I obviously need some sort of internet access and a PSP sure doesn't cut it.
Waste money on laptops? If laptops are a waste throw your desktop away then. Throw computers away alltogether. Laptops are just like desktops with the added mobility feature.
You obviously don't demonstrate much maturity in your arguments by just insulting everything you read.
- people have different purchasing powers
- people have different priorities
- there are much worse ways to spend your money
so wth are you whining about how other people spend their money? obviously it's worth it to them.
- people have different priorities
- there are much worse ways to spend your money
so wth are you whining about how other people spend their money? obviously it's worth it to them.
Deeko
Lifer
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Wow, holy sh!t, he gets it!!!
You just proved my point. No, you don't need any of those things. No, you don't need a PSP. For some people, its nice to have, and completely fills a purpose. Oh...you also didn't refute my Discman argument. Why not?
I'd like to point out that I own two digital cameras, an ipod shuffle, a discman, and a laptop, and not a PSP. You're just an idiot for saying its a "pointless product" or any of your other arguments.
Oh, and you might not like my insultative arguing style, but I got your ass to post more than just "its pointless" or "ipods are better" didn't I?
Gibson486
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he may not demonstrate maturity, but unlike you, he showed the logic from his argument. Such responses as
"Waste money on laptops? If laptops are a waste throw your desktop away then. Throw computers away alltogether. Laptops are just like desktops with the added mobility feature."
really adds nothing to your original argument. It's almost like a response from a politician, but even they can convince people with their arguments.
250 dollars plus 100 dollar (1gb) memory stick gets you...
Movies, Emulators (GBA, GBC, GB, SNES, NES, Genesis), Music etc. etc.
And its portable...
Movies, Emulators (GBA, GBC, GB, SNES, NES, Genesis), Music etc. etc.
And its portable...
The discman argument: Well if you insist on putting everything on CDs, then if you have an average of 20 songs per CD, you will have something like 100 if you want to carry 2000 songs like I do on my iPod. MP3 music players are merely an evolutionary form of CD players. It's the new way music is carried. It's just an extension of the already existent portable music line. So why stay in old tech when you can jump into new tech. Now as for MP3 CD players you still need to carry CDs around, maybe not as many, but you still need to carry SOMETHING. Moreover you need to swap CDs and navigation isn't as easy as on an mp3 player. But the 20GB iPod shouldn't be the only comparison product. Use small flash mp3 players which basically take over for the Discman. The iPod is just for you to put basically your whole MP3 collection on the machine either as backup or just as your portable media station.
Now the PSP brings out gaming and is an extension of not just the gaming product line, but the portable handheld gaming line. But what sets the PSP apart from others is its supposed to be this godly machine that does a lot more like videos, music, etc. I somehow find that the point of carrying something so large and bulky for all that is somewhat pointless. Keep it a game machine. Plus I just feel games are meant to be played on PC. I don't see how two thumbs and sometimes your index finger(s) beats a mouse and keyboard where both hands are fully in action.
PSP fills a purpose, but a lot of other products can fill this purpose too and they do so in a better manner.
Now the PSP brings out gaming and is an extension of not just the gaming product line, but the portable handheld gaming line. But what sets the PSP apart from others is its supposed to be this godly machine that does a lot more like videos, music, etc. I somehow find that the point of carrying something so large and bulky for all that is somewhat pointless. Keep it a game machine. Plus I just feel games are meant to be played on PC. I don't see how two thumbs and sometimes your index finger(s) beats a mouse and keyboard where both hands are fully in action.
PSP fills a purpose, but a lot of other products can fill this purpose too and they do so in a better manner.
MrDudeMan
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prove that the iPod "does it in a better manner" than the PSP. prove to me that the listening experience in your HEADPHONES is somehow enhanced because it is connected to an iPod instead of a PSP. thats right, your arguement is pure crap. i said it, and everyone else is thinking it.
Deeko
Lifer
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Nwow yer thinkin, but yer still wrong. Yep, carrying a lot of CD's is a lot more to carry....but it sure is a lot cheaper to carry around 100 CD's and a discman than a flash player with a bunch of memory cards or an ipod. What is the advantage of the ipod? Easy of use(including size)? Oh...kinda like how a PSP is a much more portable/easy to use gaming/video/audio unit than a laptop. Making connections now?
Games are meant to be played on the PC? Consoles have always existed, and always will. I'll agree that some games are much better with keyboard/mouse, specifically FPS and MMORPG's. However, I also feel that consoles are better for other types of games, like sports/fighting, as well as any IRL multiplayer. If I have a bunch of people over who want to play games, whats better, crowding them around my 15" LCD and fitting them all on the keyboard, or sitting them in front of my 51" HDTV with wavebirds?
Regardless, we won't turn this into a console vs PC gaming argument. No one will say PSP is better for games at home, but for portability, it just can't be beat. If you want a pure gaming machine...thats why God invented the DS.
Keep 'em comin.
Games are meant to be played on the PC? Consoles have always existed, and always will. I'll agree that some games are much better with keyboard/mouse, specifically FPS and MMORPG's. However, I also feel that consoles are better for other types of games, like sports/fighting, as well as any IRL multiplayer. If I have a bunch of people over who want to play games, whats better, crowding them around my 15" LCD and fitting them all on the keyboard, or sitting them in front of my 51" HDTV with wavebirds?
Regardless, we won't turn this into a console vs PC gaming argument. No one will say PSP is better for games at home, but for portability, it just can't be beat. If you want a pure gaming machine...thats why God invented the DS.
Keep 'em comin.
Deeko
Lifer
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His cost argument vs the ipod included games and a car kit, for some reason.
If he were smart, which he isn't, he would have factored in the number of memory sticks required to equal an ipod. He didn't though.
Wow, I could argue his point better than he can.
Well I'm sure if you have read Consumer Reports, the iPod has close to the best sound quality out there. I guess many of us aren't audiophiles. I'm not one although I'm quite sensitive to sound quality. I guess this is the same reason why we get good sound cards right? I'm not saying the iPod enhances my headphones. I'm saying that you can get 20GB of music out of it while with the PSP you can only get who knows how much, and that gap wont close for a while. I'm sure my listening experience would be somewhat better if I can choose from more songs that I like rather than a smaller collection.
Maybe the PSP does give better sound quality, I wouldn't know. But it's not marketed as an MP3 player is it? You won't see it at Best Buy right next ot the iPod or the Zen or the Dell DJ. And if you bought a PSP solely for MP3s you would be quite foolish.
Ok if you want me to write 2000 word responses then so be it but I'm not going to. My point was that you have to swap CDs out carry the CD player + the case or + the CD(s). With an iPod you just carry the device + headphones. There's no swapping. All you do is hit next track or whatever. That is why CD players are on the downfall. With portability in mind, you want to keep it simple, and that's what iPods do.
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