I hate PSPs

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: DLeRium

PSP fills a purpose, but a lot of other products can fill this purpose too and they do so in a better manner.

prove that the iPod "does it in a better manner" than the PSP. prove to me that the listening experience in your HEADPHONES is somehow enhanced because it is connected to an iPod instead of a PSP. thats right, your arguement is pure crap. i said it, and everyone else is thinking it.

Well I'm sure if you have read Consumer Reports, the iPod has close to the best sound quality out there. I guess many of us aren't audiophiles. I'm not one although I'm quite sensitive to sound quality. I guess this is the same reason why we get good sound cards right? I'm not saying the iPod enhances my headphones. I'm saying that you can get 20GB of music out of it while with the PSP you can only get who knows how much, and that gap wont close for a while. I'm sure my listening experience would be somewhat better if I can choose from more songs that I like rather than a smaller collection.

Maybe the PSP does give better sound quality, I wouldn't know. But it's not marketed as an MP3 player is it? You won't see it at Best Buy right next ot the iPod or the Zen or the Dell DJ. And if you bought a PSP solely for MP3s you would be quite foolish.

ha...audophiles? Find me an audiophile that accepts MP3 quality.

Oh wait...that further plays into my Discman argument, because CD's sound considerably better than MP3's.

I win again....bwuahaha

iPod supports Apple Lossless. I'm just saying that you have more options w/ ipod IF you are an audiophile.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: DLeRium
The discman argument: Well if you insist on putting everything on CDs, then if you have an average of 20 songs per CD, you will have something like 100 if you want to carry 2000 songs like I do on my iPod. MP3 music players are merely an evolutionary form of CD players. It's the new way music is carried. It's just an extension of the already existent portable music line. So why stay in old tech when you can jump into new tech. Now as for MP3 CD players you still need to carry CDs around, maybe not as many, but you still need to carry SOMETHING.Moreover you need to swap CDs and navigation isn't as easy as on an mp3 player. But the 20GB iPod shouldn't be the only comparison product. Use small flash mp3 players which basically take over for the Discman. The iPod is just for you to put basically your whole MP3 collection on the machine either as backup or just as your portable media station.

Now the PSP brings out gaming and is an extension of not just the gaming product line, but the portable handheld gaming line. But what sets the PSP apart from others is its supposed to be this godly machine that does a lot more like videos, music, etc. I somehow find that the point of carrying something so large and bulky for all that is somewhat pointless. Keep it a game machine. Plus I just feel games are meant to be played on PC. I don't see how two thumbs and sometimes your index finger(s) beats a mouse and keyboard where both hands are fully in action.

PSP fills a purpose, but a lot of other products can fill this purpose too and they do so in a better manner.

That line i bolded just demonstrates why you suck at your argument.

Ok if you want me to write 2000 word responses then so be it but I'm not going to. My point was that you have to swap CDs out carry the CD player + the case or + the CD(s). With an iPod you just carry the device + headphones. There's no swapping. All you do is hit next track or whatever. That is why CD players are on the downfall. With portability in mind, you want to keep it simple, and that's what iPods do.

ho-oh, then why don't you respond to my post a few back?

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: DLeRium

PSP fills a purpose, but a lot of other products can fill this purpose too and they do so in a better manner.

prove that the iPod "does it in a better manner" than the PSP. prove to me that the listening experience in your HEADPHONES is somehow enhanced because it is connected to an iPod instead of a PSP. thats right, your arguement is pure crap. i said it, and everyone else is thinking it.

Well I'm sure if you have read Consumer Reports, the iPod has close to the best sound quality out there. I guess many of us aren't audiophiles. I'm not one although I'm quite sensitive to sound quality. I guess this is the same reason why we get good sound cards right? I'm not saying the iPod enhances my headphones. I'm saying that you can get 20GB of music out of it while with the PSP you can only get who knows how much, and that gap wont close for a while. I'm sure my listening experience would be somewhat better if I can choose from more songs that I like rather than a smaller collection.

Maybe the PSP does give better sound quality, I wouldn't know. But it's not marketed as an MP3 player is it? You won't see it at Best Buy right next ot the iPod or the Zen or the Dell DJ. And if you bought a PSP solely for MP3s you would be quite foolish.

ha...audophiles? Find me an audiophile that accepts MP3 quality.

Oh wait...that further plays into my Discman argument, because CD's sound considerably better than MP3's.

I win again....bwuahaha

iPod supports Apple Lossless. I'm just saying that you have more options w/ ipod IF you are an audiophile.

Who says PSP doesn't support lossless?

Oh, and reviews I've read have ranked the standard ipod pretty low on sound quality anyway, although the Shuffle is near the top.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: DLeRium

PSP fills a purpose, but a lot of other products can fill this purpose too and they do so in a better manner.

prove that the iPod "does it in a better manner" than the PSP. prove to me that the listening experience in your HEADPHONES is somehow enhanced because it is connected to an iPod instead of a PSP. thats right, your arguement is pure crap. i said it, and everyone else is thinking it.

Well I'm sure if you have read Consumer Reports, the iPod has close to the best sound quality out there. I guess many of us aren't audiophiles. I'm not one although I'm quite sensitive to sound quality. I guess this is the same reason why we get good sound cards right? I'm not saying the iPod enhances my headphones. I'm saying that you can get 20GB of music out of it while with the PSP you can only get who knows how much, and that gap wont close for a while. I'm sure my listening experience would be somewhat better if I can choose from more songs that I like rather than a smaller collection.

Maybe the PSP does give better sound quality, I wouldn't know. But it's not marketed as an MP3 player is it? You won't see it at Best Buy right next ot the iPod or the Zen or the Dell DJ. And if you bought a PSP solely for MP3s you would be quite foolish.

whoa, consumer reports said that? consumer reports needs people who are not deaf then.

I'm no audiophile but I can tell you the ipod audio quality sure doesn't suck. Could you tell in a blind test between the Dell DJ and the iPod both plugged into speakers? I probably couldn't. BTW I'm using the iPod as a general MP3 player to encompass all other similar products.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: DLeRium

PSP fills a purpose, but a lot of other products can fill this purpose too and they do so in a better manner.

prove that the iPod "does it in a better manner" than the PSP. prove to me that the listening experience in your HEADPHONES is somehow enhanced because it is connected to an iPod instead of a PSP. thats right, your arguement is pure crap. i said it, and everyone else is thinking it.

Well I'm sure if you have read Consumer Reports, the iPod has close to the best sound quality out there. I guess many of us aren't audiophiles. I'm not one although I'm quite sensitive to sound quality. I guess this is the same reason why we get good sound cards right? I'm not saying the iPod enhances my headphones. I'm saying that you can get 20GB of music out of it while with the PSP you can only get who knows how much, and that gap wont close for a while. I'm sure my listening experience would be somewhat better if I can choose from more songs that I like rather than a smaller collection.

Maybe the PSP does give better sound quality, I wouldn't know. But it's not marketed as an MP3 player is it? You won't see it at Best Buy right next ot the iPod or the Zen or the Dell DJ. And if you bought a PSP solely for MP3s you would be quite foolish.

whoa, consumer reports said that? consumer reports needs people who are not deaf then.

I'm no audiophile but I can tell you the ipod audio quality sure doesn't suck. Could you tell in a blind test between the Dell DJ and the iPod both plugged into speakers? I probably couldn't. BTW I'm using the iPod as a general MP3 player to encompass all other similar products.

paging Guruk!!!!

I never said it sucked (Guruk will say that), but i can tell you the ipod does not have the best quality.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Gibson486


OMG, that last paragraph reiterates why you suck at arguing. You have also managed to show your lack of understanding of simple marketing.

Um ok so I fell for marketing because the PSP is not marketted as an MP3 player. Then please. Go buy your PSP and use it solely as an MP3 player. Also buy about 20 of those 1gb sticks. Fun isn't that. Now please tell me why this is such a good product. PSP + 20 memory sticks vs any 20 gb mp3 player.

 

[Deeko]

We've been over this before.
You can't play PS2-quality games on your ipod.
You can't watch movies on your ipod.

Is it BETTER at MP3's than an ipod? No. Is it BETTER at movies than a portable DVD? No. Is it BETTER at gaming than a laptop? Well, in some ways, yes(laptop keyboards aren't exactly designed for games), in some ways no.

Find a better product that does all of those things. You won't.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Gibson486


OMG, that last paragraph reiterates why you suck at arguing. You have also managed to show your lack of understanding of simple marketing.

Um ok so I fell for marketing because the PSP is not marketted as an MP3 player. Then please. Go buy your PSP and use it solely as an MP3 player. Also buy about 20 of those 1gb sticks. Fun isn't that. Now please tell me why this is such a good product. PSP + 20 memory sticks vs any 20 gb mp3 player.

wow, you are dumb.....

Maybe the PSP does give better sound quality, I wouldn't know. But it's not marketed as an MP3 player is it? You won't see it at Best Buy right next ot the iPod or the Zen or the Dell DJ. And if you bought a PSP solely for MP3s you would be quite foolish.

Why do you even bother mentioning this if it has no purpose in backing your argument?

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: DLeRium
The discman argument: Well if you insist on putting everything on CDs, then if you have an average of 20 songs per CD, you will have something like 100 if you want to carry 2000 songs like I do on my iPod. MP3 music players are merely an evolutionary form of CD players. It's the new way music is carried. It's just an extension of the already existent portable music line. So why stay in old tech when you can jump into new tech. Now as for MP3 CD players you still need to carry CDs around, maybe not as many, but you still need to carry SOMETHING. Moreover you need to swap CDs and navigation isn't as easy as on an mp3 player. But the 20GB iPod shouldn't be the only comparison product. Use small flash mp3 players which basically take over for the Discman. The iPod is just for you to put basically your whole MP3 collection on the machine either as backup or just as your portable media station.

Now the PSP brings out gaming and is an extension of not just the gaming product line, but the portable handheld gaming line. But what sets the PSP apart from others is its supposed to be this godly machine that does a lot more like videos, music, etc. I somehow find that the point of carrying something so large and bulky for all that is somewhat pointless. Keep it a game machine. Plus I just feel games are meant to be played on PC. I don't see how two thumbs and sometimes your index finger(s) beats a mouse and keyboard where both hands are fully in action.

PSP fills a purpose, but a lot of other products can fill this purpose too and they do so in a better manner.

With that logic you saying then if I take a trip I should haul my psp, ipod, and a portable dvd player with me because the PSP should stay as a gaming machine because its too big to be useful to do the other stuff?

Just making sure I get this straight. A PSP shouldn't be used for the music, photos, and dvd's JUST for games for it is too bulky BUT we should haul with us a PSP, DVD player, Ipod Photo, and a regular Ipod because thoes 4 together in your pocket would be smaller then the one PSP??? OH and lets not forget that since it emulates and plays dvds off the mem stick that now I have to haul a Nintendo, Sega master system, a sega game gear, and a few of my dvds with me to play on the portable dvd player. OH and the instalation of a inverter so I can plug that crap in because its supposed to run on 110 volts ac not 12 volt dc. Along with bringing my systems I need to bring all my game cartridges and controllers as well. All of this because you said that it should be used for gaming only for there are the other units above that fill the other purposes better some how.

:disgust: RIGHT

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Gibson486


OMG, that last paragraph reiterates why you suck at arguing. You have also managed to show your lack of understanding of simple marketing.

Um ok so I fell for marketing because the PSP is not marketted as an MP3 player. Then please. Go buy your PSP and use it solely as an MP3 player. Also buy about 20 of those 1gb sticks. Fun isn't that. Now please tell me why this is such a good product. PSP + 20 memory sticks vs any 20 gb mp3 player.

wow, you are dumb.....

Maybe the PSP does give better sound quality, I wouldn't know. But it's not marketed as an MP3 player is it? You won't see it at Best Buy right next ot the iPod or the Zen or the Dell DJ. And if you bought a PSP solely for MP3s you would be quite foolish.

Why do you even bother mentioning this if it has no purpose in backing your argument?

Yes I'm so friggn dumb its called leaving as few variables as possible. How does it have no purpose in backing up my argument? I'm saying the PSP is not going to excel at MP3s. What do you not get. If you can't refute that then maybe you should stop making pointless 3 word responses with absoluting no reasoning at all.

 

[Deeko]

I've noticed that I'm still shooting down your arguments and you aren't even trying to refute me anymore. I'll take that as a compliment.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Deeko
We've been over this before.
You can't play PS2-quality games on your ipod.
You can't watch movies on your ipod.

Is it BETTER at MP3's than an ipod? No. Is it BETTER at movies than a portable DVD? No. Is it BETTER at gaming than a laptop? Well, in some ways, yes(laptop keyboards aren't exactly designed for games), in some ways no.

Find a better product that does all of those things. You won't.

And with all in one products they can't specialize. Thus they only offer mediocrity all across. Hence the reason I dont buy all in one printers, etc.

It's the same people who own PSPs who also have digi cams, computers, possibly laptops, and camera phones and PDAs, etc. This is not true for everyone, but we don't really need THAT many gadgets in our life do we.... The PSP is just an excuse for kids to get their parents to waste more money and overall it is a waste of money when we can achieve what it can do with the stuff we already have...

 

[Deeko]

It isn't mediocore across the board though. PSP is arguably the BEST portable gaming solution, in addition to having acceptable music and movie playback.

 

[Tu13erhead]

Originally posted by: Deeko
It isn't mediocore across the board though. PSP is arguably the BEST portable gaming solution, in addition to having acceptable music and movie playback.

True that.

 

[PottedMeat]

is DLeRium in the running for best troll?

is he trying to rationalize spending $$$ on a bunch of products when what he desperately wanted was a PSP?

this thread is hilarious!

 

[Deeko]

He's an idiot is what it comes down to. An idiot who can't smell his own idiocy.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Gibson486


OMG, that last paragraph reiterates why you suck at arguing. You have also managed to show your lack of understanding of simple marketing.

Um ok so I fell for marketing because the PSP is not marketted as an MP3 player. Then please. Go buy your PSP and use it solely as an MP3 player. Also buy about 20 of those 1gb sticks. Fun isn't that. Now please tell me why this is such a good product. PSP + 20 memory sticks vs any 20 gb mp3 player.

i think it also can only handle em allin a single directory or the root directory. something horrible. and yea, it seems like something fun to distract yourself with when your pooping..but beyond that.. its kinda useless.