I hate doctors.

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Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: moshquerade
doctors aren't rolling in the cash you think they are.

dentists however are :p

actually.... now that you mention it. dentists have it made. (except people hate them too)

they allready do, i dont

the dentist hate comes from most people not having dental insurance so they really get bent over paying 100% out of pocket
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: moshquerade
doctors aren't rolling in the cash you think they are.

dentists however are :p

actually.... now that you mention it. dentists have it made. (except people hate them too)

they allready do, i dont

the dentist hate comes from most people not having dental insurance so they really get bent over paying 100% out of pocket

i think the dentist hate mostly comes from people not liking to have their teeth/mouths worked on. sure it hurts the pocketbook too, but people tell me all the time, "i hate being here". i just tell them i don't like being in that chair either, but it's something we all need to do.
 

eits

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Jun 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: kinev
Originally posted by: eits
doctors don't insinuate they're going to just give you something. they assume that you are there to be treated and pay for the treatment and services.

inflating the hell out of the price of something you can buy at any drugstore is a retarded doctor business model that i hate... some professors try to teach us how to do that to "be successful" and get formal complaints about them regarding ethics and subject matter (you don't teach marketing and business management when you're supposed to be teaching a course about how to identify and treat and rehab athletic injuries).


Checks sig.....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

...wipes tears from eyes....deep breath.....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!


:thumbsdown:

? i don't get it...
 

Joemonkey

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Mar 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: moshquerade
doctors aren't rolling in the cash you think they are.

dentists however are :p

actually.... now that you mention it. dentists have it made. (except people hate them too)

they allready do, i dont

the dentist hate comes from most people not having dental insurance so they really get bent over paying 100% out of pocket

What I don't understand is the need for totally separate dental and vision insurance. Shouldn't it ALL be under "Medical" insurance? I mean hell I don't have specific sinus insurance, or nervous system insurance, or circulatory system insurance...
 

Mo0o

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Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: moshquerade
doctors aren't rolling in the cash you think they are.

dentists however are :p

actually.... now that you mention it. dentists have it made. (except people hate them too)

they allready do, i dont

the dentist hate comes from most people not having dental insurance so they really get bent over paying 100% out of pocket

What I don't understand is the need for totally separate dental and vision insurance. Shouldn't it ALL be under "Medical" insurance? I mean hell I don't have specific sinus insurance, or nervous system insurance, or circulatory system insurance...

Probably a lot of politics involved. I suspect the ADA doesn't want to be under teh AMA's thumb, having reimbursement rates dictated to them.
 

TheVrolok

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Dec 11, 2000
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sigh. It's sad how uniformed people are. Threads like this really excite me to kill myself during med school and residency just to come out and start practicing in a country where people think WebMD (man I hate WebMD sometimes, what a pita) is more accurate and your physician is just trying to screw you.
 

TraumaRN

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Jun 5, 2005
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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Are there any repercussions for rejecting a "treatment" like this? Once I found out how much the damn sock cost, I would have said balls to that.

Nope. You can reject anything and everything , including life saving treatment, that's your right as a patient.

Except in an emergency. If something is immediately life or limb threatening, even if you are alert, oriented and capable of making your own medical decisions then you can be overruled. However, if you can walk out we cant stop you even in an emergency situation(unless you aren't mentally competant)
 

TheVrolok

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Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Are there any repercussions for rejecting a "treatment" like this? Once I found out how much the damn sock cost, I would have said balls to that.

Nope. You can reject anything and everything , including life saving treatment, that's your right as a patient.

Except in an emergency. If something is immediately life or limb threatening, even if you are alert, oriented and capable of making your own medical decisions then you can be overruled. However, if you can walk out we cant stop you even in an emergency situation(unless you aren't mentally competant)

Kinda convoluted? Even if you can't physically walk out, you can absolutely refuse life saving treatment provided you're of sound mind. All that matters is your mental state and legal guardianship.
 

LongCoolMother

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yeah medical professionals are important. but..... when I get a filling at the dentist, it costs hundreds of dollars for a ~20-30 minute procedure. I mean, does the dentist's skill and time really warrant a wage of $hundreds per hour? Apparently so...
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
yeah medical professionals are important. but..... when I get a filling at the dentist, it costs hundreds of dollars for a ~20-30 minute procedure. I mean, does the dentist's skill and time really warrant a wage of $hundreds per hour? Apparently so...

i dunno. graduate from dental school, become licensed to practice dentistry, set up your own practice, and then let me know what you think.
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Are there any repercussions for rejecting a "treatment" like this? Once I found out how much the damn sock cost, I would have said balls to that.

Nope. You can reject anything and everything , including life saving treatment, that's your right as a patient.

Except in an emergency. If something is immediately life or limb threatening, even if you are alert, oriented and capable of making your own medical decisions then you can be overruled. However, if you can walk out we cant stop you even in an emergency situation(unless you aren't mentally competant)

Kinda convoluted? Even if you can't physically walk out, you can absolutely refuse life saving treatment provided you're of sound mind. All that matters is your mental state and legal guardianship.

Which some people cant walk out and refuse and refuse....then once your mental status/respiratory status/cardiovascular status starts to fail you can't resist anymore and unless you have a DNR or someone acting as your durable power of attorney, or living will, something along those lines we'll do everything medically that we can. It is kinda twisted in a way...but we as medical professionals get stuck between a rock and a hard place at times.

Case and point, we had a fairly sick guy come in last week to the ER. We told him that despite him being clear of mind and mentally competent that he needed to be placed on a ventilator, sooner rather than later, he refused. However, he was much too weak to walk out. So we took care of him as best we could given his illness and waited. Ironically enough when the ICU resident came to examine the patient, the patient became unconscious and was promptly intubated and placed on a ventilator, despite his earlier refusal it now became medically emergent and he had no living will, power of attorney or a DNR. So we did what was deemed medically necessary.

But on the other hand, if we did nothing he was going to die within hours from his illness.

 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: edro
My knee was hurting for a while from soccer, so I went to a sports doctor.
They took xrays and said it was a bone fragment embedded in my tendon.
It should go away after a long time.

They gave me a knee sock to help stabilize it while playing sports.
The doctor said "Here, let me give you a knee brace to help during sports."

He didn't say he was going to charge me $69.00 for it!
My insurance covered $20 of it.

WTF... I know it's only $50, but I hate how they insinuate they are giving you something, then charge you 1000% more for it.

Seriously, CVS sells the exact same brand and model for $7.

Assholes... go ahead, buy another Mercedes with my money!

Cliffs: Doctor charged $70 for a $7 knee sock.

You could always say No and buy one at CVS instead.
 

edro

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Apr 5, 2002
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: edro
My knee was hurting for a while from soccer, so I went to a sports doctor.
They took xrays and said it was a bone fragment embedded in my tendon.
It should go away after a long time.

They gave me a knee sock to help stabilize it while playing sports.
The doctor said "Here, let me give you a knee brace to help during sports."

He didn't say he was going to charge me $69.00 for it!
My insurance covered $20 of it.

WTF... I know it's only $50, but I hate how they insinuate they are giving you something, then charge you 1000% more for it.

Seriously, CVS sells the exact same brand and model for $7.

Assholes... go ahead, buy another Mercedes with my money!

Cliffs: Doctor charged $70 for a $7 knee sock.

You could always say No and buy one at CVS instead.

Thanks Captain Obvious.
Hindsight is 20/20.