I hate airbags

Ryan

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Yeah, I'd rather you hit your head on your steering wheel, maybe break your nose, or suffer serious whiplash and make your vehicle even more likely to kill you in the event of a side impact crash.
 

akubi

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did you actually go read the entire article? this study only applies to teens < 14 yo in the front seat.

unless you have the build of a 14 yo you are safer with an airbag installed.
Just don't let kids ride in the front
 

deadlyapp

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and we didnt know this already? They have warned about it for like the last 10 years!
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: akubi
did you actually go read the entire article? this study only applies to teens < 14 yo in the front seat.

unless you have the build of a 14 yo you are safer with an airbag installed.
Just don't let kids ride in the front
exactly.

now tell us why you hate airbags OP.

i was in an accident and had an airbag go off in my face. it was much better than eating the steering wheel or the dash.

 

Kremlar

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I get a discount on my insurance because my car has them.

Yeah, but of course the value of your vehicle is higher because of them, so your insurance is higher. They are also a common theft item, so your insurance is higher. Also, the cost of replacing 1 during an accident is high, so your insurance is higher. And hope you never want to NOT use your insurance in a small accident and have to pay for one!

unless you have the build of a 14 yo you are safer with an airbag installed.

Not being safe to have a 6 year old in the front seat with me is stupid enough, nevermind a 14 year old!

I remember when airbags were new, and they were advertised as a great 'passive' safety device because people weren't wearing their seatbelts. Then came the news that you MUST wear your seat belt, otherwise the air bag would do more harm than good, then came the news that young children could be severely harmed during an air bag release, or a normal person if they were sitting too close to the dash, or in an awkward position. NOW its anyone under 15 years old? Crazy...

Don't get me wrong, I wear my seat belt everytime I get into a car, but I DO NOT agree with being forced to purchase something that has so many negative effects.
 

Shawn

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My airbag computer didn't work so I just pulled mine out. Much cheaper than fixing them.
 

KingPhil

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Yeah, I'd rather you hit your head on your steering wheel, maybe break your nose, or suffer serious whiplash and make your vehicle even more likely to kill you in the event of a side impact crash.

Seatbelt seemed to work just fine for me in my head on crash......

If I had air bags, my wife probably woulnd't have any legs. In a split second she put her legs up on the dash to stop herself from slamming forward. Stupid move on her part, but in a split second you don't always make the best decisions......
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Kremlar
I get a discount on my insurance because my car has them.

Yeah, but of course the value of your vehicle is higher because of them, so your insurance is higher. They are also a common theft item, so your insurance is higher. Also, the cost of replacing 1 during an accident is high, so your insurance is higher. And hope you never want to NOT use your insurance in a small accident and have to pay for one!

unless you have the build of a 14 yo you are safer with an airbag installed.

Not being safe to have a 6 year old in the front seat with me is stupid enough, nevermind a 14 year old!

I remember when airbags were new, and they were advertised as a great 'passive' safety device because people weren't wearing their seatbelts. Then came the news that you MUST wear your seat belt, otherwise the air bag would do more harm than good, then came the news that young children could be severely harmed during an air bag release, or a normal person if they were sitting too close to the dash, or in an awkward position. NOW its anyone under 15 years old? Crazy...

Don't get me wrong, I wear my seat belt everytime I get into a car, but I DO NOT agree with being forced to purchase something that has so many negative effects.
disengage your airbags :roll:
and hopefully you won't live (die) to regret it.

they are made to protect you. why would you want to buy a vehicle without them just so your 6 year old can sit up front?
 

Kremlar

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i was in an accident and had an airbag go off in my face. it was much better than eating the steering wheel or the dash.

That's, of course, assuming your face WOULD have hit the steering wheel or dash. I have been involved in several accidents, and wearing my seatbelt has always been enough to stop any serious injury.

Now, I'm certain that in many severe accidents injuries could be avoided or minimized by an airbag, but there are many other incidents in which airbags cause much more damage than if they didn't release.

Bottom line - it should be MY choice.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: KingPhil
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Yeah, I'd rather you hit your head on your steering wheel, maybe break your nose, or suffer serious whiplash and make your vehicle even more likely to kill you in the event of a side impact crash.

Seatbelt seemed to work just fine for me in my head on crash......

If I had air bags, my wife probably woulnd't have any legs. In a split second she put her legs up on the dash to stop herself from slamming forward. Stupid move on her part, but in a split second you don't always make the best decisions......
an airbag is not going to take your wife's legs off. it's not that powerful. i've had one go off - i know. she would have been better off to take the impact of an airbag than to put her legs up to stop impact.

 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Kremlar
i was in an accident and had an airbag go off in my face. it was much better than eating the steering wheel or the dash.

That's, of course, assuming your face WOULD have hit the steering wheel or dash. I have been involved in several accidents, and wearing my seatbelt has always been enough to stop any serious injury.

Now, I'm certain that in many severe accidents injuries could be avoided or minimized by an airbag, but there are many other incidents in which airbags cause much more damage than if they didn't release.

Bottom line - it should be MY choice.

...TO DIE!

Injuries caused by airbags in odd circumstances when used properly (correct distance from the steering wheel, kids in the back seat, etc) are far less severe than getting into a major accident and not having them at all. Especially side impact and head curtain airbags in a side collision.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Kremlar
i was in an accident and had an airbag go off in my face. it was much better than eating the steering wheel or the dash.

That's, of course, assuming your face WOULD have hit the steering wheel or dash. I have been involved in several accidents, and wearing my seatbelt has always been enough to stop any serious injury.

Now, I'm certain that in many severe accidents injuries could be avoided or minimized by an airbag, but there are many other incidents in which airbags cause much more damage than if they didn't release.

Bottom line - it should be MY choice.
it was a head on accident. hit another vehicle that had turned in front of me and then hit a telephone pole. my car was totaled. so yeh, i definitely would've been spitting out teeth if it weren't for the airbag.
and the airbag did not hurt me at all except for a minor powder burn on the side of my face. i was happy for that seeing what the alternative could have been.

it can be your choice to not have an airbag - disengage them.

 

Kremlar

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they are made to protect you. why would you want to buy a vehicle without them just so your 6 year old can sit up front?

That's not the only reason, that's one of my reasons.

Do some research - what you find may surprise you.

Bottom line is, why should I be forced to pay for something like this, in several different ways, if I not only don't want to PAY for the feature, but don't AGREE with their opinion on the matter?


 

LordUnum

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Originally posted by: akubi
did you actually go read the entire article? this study only applies to teens < 14 yo in the front seat.

unless you have the build of a 14 yo you are safer with an airbag installed.
Just don't let kids ride in the front
Exactly.

I don't see how someone can hate a relatively unobtrusive safety device such as an airbag. That is, unless you go around re-enacting a bit of demolition derby going in & out of the supermarket parking lot. Otherwise, it'll in all likelihood only go off when you absolutely need it. People do need to be more educated on the physics behind airbag deployment considering they do come standard on practically every automobile, though. Too many still don't seem to realize it's not a good idea to extend any limb (or craning your neck for that matter) towards the dash or airbag compartment in the event of an accident.

Light powder burns & bruising >>> broken face & concussion in a severe crash any day
 

Electric Amish

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I'm more pissed by the current fad of states REQUIRING seatbelts and now allowing officers to pull you over for violation. :roll:
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I'm more pissed by the current fad of states REQUIRING seatbelts and now allowing officers to pull you over for violation. :roll:
yeh, how dare they, and also there are these lines painted on the road and we have to stay on our own side :Q

 

Kremlar

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Injuries caused by airbags in odd circumstances when used properly (correct distance from the steering wheel, kids in the back seat, etc) are far less severe than getting into a major accident and not having them at all. Especially side impact and head curtain airbags in a side collision.

Really? I say that's debatable.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/06/050602011343.htm

it was a head on accident. hit another vehicle that had turned in front of me and then hit a telephone pole. my car was totaled. so yeh, i definitely would've been spitting out teeth if it weren't for the airbag.

That's great, I'm sincerely glad for you. I also used to work with a woman that swore she would never wear a seatbelt again because she was in an accident where she was thrown into the rear of her station wagon because she was not wearing a seat belt. The front cabin was crushed, and she claims she would have died if she were strapped to her seat.

Everyone has their reasons, but the fact is - why should I be forced into something I don't agree with?

it can be your choice to not have an airbag - disengage them.

Last I checked, that was illegal. And I've ALREADY paid the insurance and purchase price costs associated with them.
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I'm more pissed by the current fad of states REQUIRING seatbelts and now allowing officers to pull you over for violation. :roll:

I agree. If you want to risk your own life go for it. Let the idiots kill themselfs off.
 

Kremlar

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I don't see how someone can hate a relatively unobtrusive safety device such as an airbag.

Maybe you've never had one explode in your face? Maybe you've never seen the thousands you have to spend on one?

I wouldn't call that unobtrusive.
 

chrisms

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I hate them too.. I got in a minor collision with a parked car while it was snowing a few years back. It was my parents car and had airbags (my car doesn't have them), but I was told later that I was probably very close to setting them off, which would've been another few thousand dollars.
 

jemcam

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If you had seen as many scalps stuck to car windshields or teeth stuck in steering wheels and dashboards you wouldn't feel that way. And most of them were wearing seatbelts. Seatbelts stretch a lot, as they're supposed to allow you to decelerate a little slower and prevent internal injuries. They sometimes stretch far enough to still allow you to impact the inside of the car somewhere.

I worked at a bodyshop for too many years to not be a believer in air bags. They're good and they work. Yes, you do hear of injuries from them, but far and wide they prevent far more injuries and deaths than they cause. I for one will never own a car without one as long as I live, and that goes for the rest of my family too.

Maybe you've never seen the thousands you have to spend on one?

Umm.... If you have collision insurance, you don't have to pay for it.