"I had no right to overturn election", Mike Pence

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kage69

Lifer
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They are all slimy as hell. Liars and lack any substance. But I am looking at it differently than most though. I don't view one side as better than the other. The system is totally corrupt so there is no way for one side to be better than the other.


I'm guessing such a critical failure like that, ongoing for so long, is probably why no one takes you seriously.

It's 2022 and after a traitor created an insurrection and almost destroyed our democracy, you're still trying to BothSides everything?

That is slimy as hell, and there is nothing unique about you being stuck in denial and acting like a clueless partisan sockpuppet. Pretty standard fare among the dishonest actually. Any other confessions of stupidity and lack of ethics you want to divulge here?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Wait, so Pence has balls? Does that mean Lindsay Graham also has balls? And since Ted Cruz called the Jan 6 protestors "terrorists," does he also have balls?

Are you talking about the same guys who backtracked on those statements? Lol no they definitely don’t have any balls.
 
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ivwshane

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They are all slimy as hell. Liars and lack any substance. But I am looking at it differently than most though. I don't view one side as better than the other. The system is totally corrupt so there is no way for one side to be better than the other.

Oh totally! One side is trying to overthrow an election and the other is trying to pass legislation to fix our infrastructure and more! Both totally corrupt!


/s


How big of an uninformed moron do you have to be to come to that conclusion?
 
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HomerJS

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Prediction: Pence <=30 days he will backtrack on at least part of his statement.

Question: Are we supposed to give Pence
"credit for some shit he's supposed to do"?...Chris Rock

I'm not buying into it.
 

eelw

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Oh totally! One side is trying to overthrow and election and the other is trying to pass legislation to fix our infrastructure and more! Both totally corrupt!


/s


How big of an uninformed moron do you have to be to come to that conclusion?
A closet supporter
 
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Jaskalas

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Mike Pence committed the sin of being loyal to country before party. Before Trump.
Thus, in the eyes of many a Republican, Mike Pence is a scum sucking commie traitor.

We may applaud him for not being completely evil, but neither would we give him succor. He is a hardcore Republican in all policy except one. The destruction of Democracy. He just couldn't stomach it. A so called middle ground where too few are his friend. So men like him will wither on the vine and fade into dust, as "men of action" are called upon to replace the "spineless coward" who would not commit to the use of force to seize power. Those who follow him will have no such quibbles.

Thus continues our decent into madness. As our nation's power struggle lurches towards civil war.
 

HomerJS

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Mike Pence committed the sin of being loyal to country before party. Before Trump.
Thus, in the eyes of many a Republican, Mike Pence is a scum sucking commie traitor.

We may applaud him for not being completely evil, but neither would we give him succor. He is a hardcore Republican in all policy except one. The destruction of Democracy. He just couldn't stomach it. A so called middle ground where too few are his friend. So men like him will wither on the vine and fade into dust, as "men of action" are called upon to replace the "spineless coward" who would not commit to the use of force to seize power. Those who follow him will have no such quibbles.

Thus continues our decent into madness. As our nation's power struggle lurches towards civil war.
I find those standards laughable, at best. If you remember Pence only did the right thing after exhausting all other options. He tried to find a credible person to tell him it was ok not to certify the election.
 
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hal2kilo

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He called out trump as "wrong" and un-American, this will surely want the chetto's faithful to call for his beheading.
Maybe he finally realized, no matter what, his political future is basically dead. So let it all hang out.
 
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BUTCH1

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Maybe he finally realized, no matter what, his political future is basically dead. So let it all hang out.
Makes sense, once trump made him into a traitor by not trying to interfere in the electoral counting process his future was done for. In the old GOP he would be lauded for this action, in today's reality any action not involving kissing that fat, putrid, orange ass means he's politically dead.
 
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zinfamous

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They are all slimy as hell. Liars and lack any substance. But I am looking at it differently than most though. I don't view one side as better than the other. The system is totally corrupt so there is no way for one side to be better than the other.

none of this means anything because the reality is that you are just fucking retarded.
 
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dawp

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HomerJS

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They are all slimy as hell. Liars and lack any substance. But I am looking at it differently than most though. I don't view one side as better than the other. The system is totally corrupt so there is no way for one side to be better than the other.
You do have the ability to call out an individual bad act and I don't see you doing that.

Add them up and then re ask yourself the question

Example: No Democrat in history EVER tried to illegally overturn a Presidential election. That act alone should start you off with 50-0
 

Jaskalas

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I find those standards laughable, at best. If you remember Pence only did the right thing after exhausting all other options. He tried to find a credible person to tell him it was ok not to certify the election.

Credible requires a certain belief system, otherwise it means nothing. It exists solely in the eye of the beholder.
Pence stood against Trump on Jan 6th, why would you so fervently diminish that?
Those few Republicans who are willing to place country before party, Bush, McCain, Romney, they are the only thing standing between us and the storm.

They are weak enough already, what do you hope to gain by helping cast them down? Maybe if you clear out enough moderate resistance, Trump can reward you with some fast food at the White House.
 

soundforbjt

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Credible requires a certain belief system, otherwise it means nothing. It exists solely in the eye of the beholder.
Pence stood against Trump on Jan 6th, why would you so fervently diminish that?
Those few Republicans who are willing to place country before party, Bush, McCain, Romney, they are the only thing standing between us and the storm.

They are weak enough already, what do you hope to gain by helping cast them down? Maybe if you clear out enough moderate resistance, Trump can reward you with some fast food at the White House.
Pence hasn’t stood up to trump, he was only covering his own ass. If he was truly honorable, he’d run to the J6 committee and tell all.
 
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A closet supporter

He's not even a closet one. He's just a full of shit one claiming he's an independent or some bullshit, which likely just means he doesn't vote but does tacitly support Republicans in every other way possible.

He's the same as all the other full of shit clowns that claimed they didn't support Turmp, didn't even like him, let alone vote for him, but hey he's saying things that make sense to them. That then after months of being obviously full of shit finally fessed up to it after about the 5th crisis that Turmp created that even they couldn't ignore finally got them to feel a little bit remorseful about their role in the state of politics.
 

HomerJS

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Credible requires a certain belief system, otherwise it means nothing. It exists solely in the eye of the beholder.
Pence stood against Trump on Jan 6th, why would you so fervently diminish that?
Those few Republicans who are willing to place country before party, Bush, McCain, Romney, they are the only thing standing between us and the storm.

They are weak enough already, what do you hope to gain by helping cast them down? Maybe if you clear out enough moderate resistance, Trump can reward you with some fast food at the White House.
Don't you remember he tried to find anyone to tell him it was ok? Dan Quayle being a former VP would be considered a credible source.
To answer the above question, for the same reason you don't brag to you friends that...

you don't beat your wife/gf
You take care of your kids

Ask yourself is doing the bare minimum the standards this country should aspire to? This country no longer attacks black people with dogs and fire hoses. Is that brag worthy??
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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Maybe he finally realized, no matter what, his political future is basically dead. So let it all hang out.


With all hope lost, conservatives then turn toward seeking to salvage their legacy of lies deception and corruption, like photochopping themselves out of pictures being lifelong buddies with the likes of any number of disgraced, excommunicated, convicted and banished Repubs run under the party wheels and left to die as political roadkill.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Do you all think Pence made this speech because it was the right thing to do or does he know the shit will hit the fan after the public hearings and the final report?
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
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Do you all think Pence made this speech because it was the right thing to do or does he know the shit will hit the fan after the public hearings and the final report?
Totally covering his ass, nothing more. I’d love to be wrong but I haven’t seen him doing anything to change my mind yet.
 

Amol S.

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Do you all think Pence made this speech because it was the right thing to do or does he know the shit will hit the fan after the public hearings and the final report?
The big public hearings could be tomorrow. That is the desposition date for the hearing of people like Rudy Guilliani.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Totally covering his ass, nothing more. I’d love to be wrong but I haven’t seen him doing anything to change my mind yet.
Yeah he's a pretty typical coward. A product of the RNC.
Only interested in making life better for himself and too afraid to ever risk anything. So yeah, this is all about covering himself politically.