Did you read the OP? This asshole buzzed the OPie on the road when there was plenty of room to give him space. In my book that deserves an ass kicking.
The bike lanes are kept very clean here. Like I said most bikers I have no problems with, and most drivers I have no problems with, but there are jack@sses that use both modes of transportation and we all have to deal with them. Just to risky to do it on a bicycle IMO.
I'm not going to turn your thread into a pro/anti cyclist thread. To be honest with you, I could care less if you guys ride on or off the road. I am respectful of people on a bike as long as they are respectful as well. I've never had an issue with a rider.
No, I'm not in the habit of "buzzing" people on bikes, nor do I discriminate againts someone for what they are riding on. Unlike yourself (see your sig).
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Does my sig bother you that much?
I don't discriminate against someone for what they ride on/in. I only ask that they think about the choices they make before they make them. Many people buy these vehicles without any thought of whether they actually need one or if they are really as "safe" as they think they are (they aren't BTW) or without giving any thought to the depletion of our natural resources or the environment.
But this thread isn't about SUVs.
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i was driving my dodge ram 1500 in heavy rush hour traffic in tempe a while back, and where there is a 2 foot bike lane a jackass on a carbon fiber racing bike was riding the white line instead of getting in the bike lane. with heavy traffic on my left, i put my tires jut to the left of the dashed line to my left, giving him enough space so my mirrors wouldnt knock him onto the sidewalk. since he wasnt in the bike lane, i almost decided to buzz him instead, but i dont intentionally do those things. i ride a motorcycle too, so i have more awareness of bikes on the road from it. this asswipe pulls up and stops next to my window about a half mile down when i had a red light and starts screaming obscenities into my window, with his face in my 10 yr old sons face. he reached in lie he was going to hit me, and met a 9mm barrel in his face. i calmly explained that if he had kept hi dumb ass in the bike lane in the first place, he wouldnt have been a scared little pussy when i passed him. i also explained that i pushed the car next to me into the turn lane to avoid hitting him, and that if he didnt get his person out of my truck he wouldnt have any more rides on that bike. the whole time my son i trying to melt into the seat, the guy literally scared him half to death. wheres his justification for turning into a flaming asswipe? he was in the wrong.
next time, remember that perspective changes the focus and importance on both sides. he thought i buzzed him, i was trying to not hit the cars to my left. if theres a bike lane, get your ass in it.
next time, remember that perspective changes the focus and importance on both sides. he thought i buzzed him, i was trying to not hit the cars to my left. if theres a bike lane, get your ass in it.
Yeah this was my original point. Those bikers that ride the line with their tires have no idea how far they hang out into the car lanes. The lane is 2 feet wide and they have to ride right on the line. That scares me because I don't want to hit one and kill him. I would have to live with that my entire life, but at the same time the speed limit is 35 and the biker is lucky to be doing 20-25.
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ya, he told me at top volume that "he had every fucking right to be on this street" like i did, i should have treated him like a car and changed lanes to go around him. i told him to do 45, since doing 20 in a 45 is impeding traffic, and he is required to pull off and let people pass. he didnt like that much either. this guy was jut clueless about it. and you DONT get into someones vehicle like that, if he hadnt backed off, id have shot him in the face. he was swinging too close to my son. he wouldnt even sit by the window for a week after that.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: MisterJackson
I'm not going to turn your thread into a pro/anti cyclist thread. To be honest with you, I could care less if you guys ride on or off the road. I am respectful of people on a bike as long as they are respectful as well. I've never had an issue with a rider.
No, I'm not in the habit of "buzzing" people on bikes, nor do I discriminate againts someone for what they are riding on. Unlike yourself (see your sig).</end quote></div>
Does my sig bother you that much?
I don't discriminate against someone for what they ride on/in. I only ask that they think about the choices they make before they make them. Many people buy these vehicles without any thought of whether they actually need one or if they are really as "safe" as they think they are (they aren't BTW) or without giving any thought to the depletion of our natural resources or the environment.
But this thread isn't about SUVs.
No, your sig doesn't bother me, you do. I could respond to your SUV comments, but it'd be pointless. Have a nice day.
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It definitely would have, yes.
I can understand you your sheltered liberal fed lifestyle might not understand the simple realities of this thing called "life" however.
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: MisterJackson
I'm not going to turn your thread into a pro/anti cyclist thread. To be honest with you, I could care less if you guys ride on or off the road. I am respectful of people on a bike as long as they are respectful as well. I've never had an issue with a rider.
No, I'm not in the habit of "buzzing" people on bikes, nor do I discriminate againts someone for what they are riding on. Unlike yourself (see your sig).</end quote></div>
Does my sig bother you that much?
I don't discriminate against someone for what they ride on/in. I only ask that they think about the choices they make before they make them. Many people buy these vehicles without any thought of whether they actually need one or if they are really as "safe" as they think they are (they aren't BTW) or without giving any thought to the depletion of our natural resources or the environment.
But this thread isn't about SUVs.
No, it's about you calling some jackass who buzzed you a 'cager' in a clearly derogatory tone, implying he's representative of all car drivers.
If your depiction of the story is the whole story, then the guy's an asshat, and there's no reason to lump him into a group many of the people here fall into. It's like having a bad experience at the GeekSquad desk and trashing all IT people.
Just like in every other arena, no one side to this story (cyclists or motorists) have the asshat market cornered - there's plenty of morons on both sides. For instance, there's the lone biker here who insists on riding down the center of the lane, while he's pedaling uphill at 10 mph for half a mile, in the 45 mph zone, every day at 5 pm, on the busy road, when he could be pedaling up the residential street that runs exactly parallel to it not holding up rush hour traffic. I'm sure he's got plenty of asshat 'cager' stories.
For the record, I drive an earth-raping SUV, and I've got a bunch of reasons for doing it. I also ride a bicycle - and when I used it for commuting, I had the common sense not to ride busy roads. I also drive a motorcycle, and know that I needed to drive defensively, because I can't assume that the person in the car is anything more than a monkey with a driver's license.
Here we go, another whiny anti-liberal rant.
Because we all know it has so much relevance and credibility every time we hear it.
You're like a damn drone, no personality whatsoever, and a hunger for violence to boot.
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And this is what we call "projection".
I'm sorry if you dont have the maturity or level headedness to handle life but please dont project your own failures on others.
Thanks.
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I'm sorry, did I say something you dont like? And wheres this violence you speak of? Or are you making things up?
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Originally posted by: rivan
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: MisterJackson
I'm not going to turn your thread into a pro/anti cyclist thread. To be honest with you, I could care less if you guys ride on or off the road. I am respectful of people on a bike as long as they are respectful as well. I've never had an issue with a rider.
No, I'm not in the habit of "buzzing" people on bikes, nor do I discriminate againts someone for what they are riding on. Unlike yourself (see your sig).</end quote></div>
Does my sig bother you that much?
I don't discriminate against someone for what they ride on/in. I only ask that they think about the choices they make before they make them. Many people buy these vehicles without any thought of whether they actually need one or if they are really as "safe" as they think they are (they aren't BTW) or without giving any thought to the depletion of our natural resources or the environment.
But this thread isn't about SUVs.</end quote></div>
No, it's about you calling some jackass who buzzed you a 'cager' in a clearly derogatory tone, implying he's representative of all car drivers.
If your depiction of the story is the whole story, then the guy's an asshat, and there's no reason to lump him into a group many of the people here fall into. It's like having a bad experience at the GeekSquad desk and trashing all IT people.
Just like in every other arena, no one side to this story (cyclists or motorists) have the asshat market cornered - there's plenty of morons on both sides. For instance, there's the lone biker here who insists on riding down the center of the lane, while he's pedaling uphill at 10 mph for half a mile, in the 45 mph zone, every day at 5 pm, on the busy road, when he could be pedaling up the residential street that runs exactly parallel to it not holding up rush hour traffic. I'm sure he's got plenty of asshat 'cager' stories.
For the record, I drive an earth-raping SUV, and I've got a bunch of reasons for doing it. I also ride a bicycle - and when I used it for commuting, I had the common sense not to ride busy roads. I also drive a motorcycle, and know that I needed to drive defensively, because I can't assume that the person in the car is anything more than a monkey with a driver's license.
Which is why we use the term cager. Yeah, it's derogatory...BFD. I called him an asshole too...no offense to the many assholes on this board.
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Clearly, he was just concerned with your safety. You should have apologized for buzzing his SUV and been on your way.
Originally posted by: rivan
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: MisterJackson
I'm not going to turn your thread into a pro/anti cyclist thread. To be honest with you, I could care less if you guys ride on or off the road. I am respectful of people on a bike as long as they are respectful as well. I've never had an issue with a rider.
No, I'm not in the habit of "buzzing" people on bikes, nor do I discriminate againts someone for what they are riding on. Unlike yourself (see your sig).</end quote></div>
Does my sig bother you that much?
I don't discriminate against someone for what they ride on/in. I only ask that they think about the choices they make before they make them. Many people buy these vehicles without any thought of whether they actually need one or if they are really as "safe" as they think they are (they aren't BTW) or without giving any thought to the depletion of our natural resources or the environment.
But this thread isn't about SUVs.</end quote></div>
No, it's about you calling some jackass who buzzed you a 'cager' in a clearly derogatory tone, implying he's representative of all car drivers.
If your depiction of the story is the whole story, then the guy's an asshat, and there's no reason to lump him into a group many of the people here fall into. It's like having a bad experience at the GeekSquad desk and trashing all IT people.
Just like in every other arena, no one side to this story (cyclists or motorists) have the asshat market cornered - there's plenty of morons on both sides. For instance, there's the lone biker here who insists on riding down the center of the lane, while he's pedaling uphill at 10 mph for half a mile, in the 45 mph zone, every day at 5 pm, on the busy road, when he could be pedaling up the residential street that runs exactly parallel to it not holding up rush hour traffic. I'm sure he's got plenty of asshat 'cager' stories.
For the record, I drive an earth-raping SUV, and I've got a bunch of reasons for doing it. I also ride a bicycle - and when I used it for commuting, I had the common sense not to ride busy roads. I also drive a motorcycle, and know that I needed to drive defensively, because I can't assume that the person in the car is anything more than a monkey with a driver's license.
We are cagers...it's not a derogatory tone, it's a name. Get over it.
Geeksquad is NOT IT...don't go down that road, they are A+ high school grads with a bit of hardware experience. They couldn't hang for an hour in a regular IT department.
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Originally posted by: Specop 007
And this is what we call "projection".
I'm sorry if you dont have the maturity or level headedness to handle life but please dont project your own failures on others.
Thanks.
No, it's called sarcasm. I'm sorry if you don't have the mental capacity to see that confronting violence with more violence won't solve anything in the long term, but please don't project your own short-sightedness on others.
So explain, please, how a gun would have made the situation any better. I see a number of possible outcomes:
1) Jules has a gun, nutball he's confronting doesn't. Jules shows said gun, nutball runs, decides he needs to carry a gun next time and is enough of a nutball to shoot instead of just scare Jules off.
2) Jules has a gun, nutball has a gun. Jules pulls said gun, nutball pulls his own, starts shootout:
?a) Jules = dead, ATOT use of "You'll be missed" sigs skyrockets
?b) Nutball = dead, Jules faces legal action, maybe goes to prison, maybe not.
or
?c) Innocent bystander dead, you fill in the blanks here.
3) Nutball has gun because Jules flashed one in scenario 1. and decides to use it the next time a biker raises his hand to 'flip him off' whether the biker did or not.
I follow the thinking that the best outcome of a confrontation like this is to avoid it entirely. Jules, intent on showing his displeasure, raised his hand. What did he accomplish with it? He got a confrontation that could have turned dangerous over NOTHING. Yes, the guy was a douche. What's the absolute BEST thing that could have happened? HE maybe could have gotten an apology from the guy, but if the nutball was the type to issue an apology, then the buzz he gave Jules was unintentional anyway.
Part of being mature is knowing you need to choose your battles.
Edits for list clarification and quote fixin.
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: rivan
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: MisterJackson
...I had the common sense not to ride busy roads. I also drive a motorcycle, and know that I needed to drive defensively, because I can't assume that the person in the car is anything more than a monkey with a driver's license.</end quote></div>
Which is why we use the term cager. Yeah, it's derogatory...BFD. I called him an asshole too...no offense to the many assholes on this board.
The difference there is I'm modeling my driving after that assumption. You're standing in front of a crowd of them, calling them monkeys whether they are or not.
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