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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Yes that and the advent of toilet paper!

:D

Seriously, though. Social pressure is every bit as important as laws when it comes to ethics, rights and morality. If peer pressure is enough to make good kids go bad, it can just as easily make bad kids go good or simply keep people from hurting others.
:thumbsup:You know, if he didn't want to hear your guys opinion about his personal doings he should have never posted about it. That's why I never post about my felonious adventures because I couldn't care less what others here think about them;)
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Yes that and the advent of toilet paper!

:D

Seriously, though. Social pressure is every bit as important as laws when it comes to ethics, rights and morality. If peer pressure is enough to make good kids go bad, it can just as easily make bad kids go good or simply keep people from hurting others.
:thumbsup:You know, if he didn't want to hear your guys opinion about his personal doings he should have never posted about it. That's why I never post about my felonious adventures because I couldn't care less what others here think about them;)

:laugh:
 

DannyBoy

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DnaJ

Don't throw your toys out the pram.

But if you did, wouldn't you want someone to return them to you?

You do not treat others as you expect them to treat you, but as you would like to be treated yourself.

Large, rich corporate goods company sends me 2x my order by accident and charges me once, then doesn't notice, do I keep the extra?

F*ck yes I do, call me a c*nt but they're not going to miss it, they're insured on it anyway, they're not going to miss an extra couple of £'s.
 

DannyBoy

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Yes that and the advent of toilet paper!

:D

Seriously, though. Social pressure is every bit as important as laws when it comes to ethics, rights and morality. If peer pressure is enough to make good kids go bad, it can just as easily make bad kids go good or simply keep people from hurting others.
:thumbsup:You know, if he didn't want to hear your guys opinion about his personal doings he should have never posted about it. That's why I never post about my felonious adventures because I couldn't care less what others here think about them;)

You seem rather friendly lately.
 

async

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Jun 7, 2002
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For what its worth, this is the same company that failed to deliver me a 120GB HD (when that was considered big). The only way to contact them is their through their own proprietary e-notes system, they don't publish any phone numbers or emails, and they ignored me for over 5 weeks.

I actually told DivideByZero he'd be a fool to deal with this company, especially on large orders. The way I see it is if they can be ignorant a-holes to their customers, then fsck them if they get it wrong.

DivideByZero - hold the A64 ransom and threaten to cut a pin off every hour until they return my hard drive.
 

Red Dawn

Elite Member
Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: DnaJ
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Yes that and the advent of toilet paper!

:D

Seriously, though. Social pressure is every bit as important as laws when it comes to ethics, rights and morality. If peer pressure is enough to make good kids go bad, it can just as easily make bad kids go good or simply keep people from hurting others.
:thumbsup:You know, if he didn't want to hear your guys opinion about his personal doings he should have never posted about it. That's why I never post about my felonious adventures because I couldn't care less what others here think about them;)

You seem rather friendly lately.
Don't mistake disinterest with friendliness.
 

DannyBoy

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2002
8,820
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www.danj.me
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DnaJ
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Yes that and the advent of toilet paper!

:D

Seriously, though. Social pressure is every bit as important as laws when it comes to ethics, rights and morality. If peer pressure is enough to make good kids go bad, it can just as easily make bad kids go good or simply keep people from hurting others.
:thumbsup:You know, if he didn't want to hear your guys opinion about his personal doings he should have never posted about it. That's why I never post about my felonious adventures because I couldn't care less what others here think about them;)

You seem rather friendly lately.
Don't mistake disinterest with friendliness.

:heart:
 

Aharami

Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: imtim83
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: imtim83
DivideBYZero your the kind of person that make the prices rise.

no. its their own mistake that makes the price rise

Ok well lets look at it on the other person's foot then Mr. Smarty Pants. Lets say your selling something on hotdeals and mistaken send them two of something but they only paid for one. Would you let them keep it and just be out the money or would you want it back as long as you paid for shipping?
Exactly, its a mistake. The person making the mistake should pay for it.
If I am dumb enough to send out an extra set, I deserve to lose that chunk of change. Luckily, I am not that dumb.

But lets talk in scale here. If i received 2 packages from an individual when I was supposed to receive one, I'd contact him and ship it back IF he pays for return shipping. A large company probably doesnt care and would make customer pay for shipping back. No way in hell im paying for shipping back when they are the ones who made the mistake in the first place.
As for morals, with an individual, I'd definitely contact him. Since he doesnt have my CC info, he cant charge me for the extra set. If he decides to be a dick and wants me to pay for shipping back, I can tell him to shove it. But if he is nice and willing to pay for shipping, Id gladly ship it back to him. Therefore there arent really negative consequences in contacting a single individual.
On the other hand, if it was a large company, I'd less likely contact them (unless they contacted me first) since if they are dicks and want me to pay for return shipping and I dont ship it, they can charge me for the extra set because they have my CC info saved. Thus, I put myself in a tough spot by bringing up their error in their radar. If they contact me and are willing to pay for shipping, I'd ship it back.
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: DnaJ
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DnaJ

Don't throw your toys out the pram.

But if you did, wouldn't you want someone to return them to you?

You do not treat others as you expect them to treat you, but as you would like to be treated yourself.

Large, rich corporate goods company sends me 2x my order by accident and charges me once, then doesn't notice, do I keep the extra?

F*ck yes I do, call me a c*nt but they're not going to miss it, they're insured on it anyway, they're not going to miss an extra couple of £'s.

And if random bums come in your home and steal a few trinkets each day until you have nothing left, they're fully justified too, since you're so much wealthier, right?

Stealing from a company simply means you've robbed dozens of individuals instead of just one. You've also raised the prices of insurance, goods and services.

The morality concerning theft cannot be relative to wealth or numbers. If it is, then someone can justify stealing from you.
 

DannyBoy

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DnaJ
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DnaJ

Don't throw your toys out the pram.

But if you did, wouldn't you want someone to return them to you?

You do not treat others as you expect them to treat you, but as you would like to be treated yourself.

Large, rich corporate goods company sends me 2x my order by accident and charges me once, then doesn't notice, do I keep the extra?

F*ck yes I do, call me a c*nt but they're not going to miss it, they're insured on it anyway, they're not going to miss an extra couple of £'s.

And if random bums come in your home and steal a few trinkets each day until you have nothing left, they're fully justified too, since you're so much wealthier, right?

Stealing from a company simply means you've robbed dozens of individuals instead of just one. You've also raised the prices of insurance, goods and services.

The morality concerning theft cannot be relative to wealth or numbers. If it is, then someone can justify stealing from you.

So I'm immoral, fair enough.
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: DnaJ
Originally posted by: Amused

You also can't link for sh!t.

The funny thing about immorality is that you lose all eright to bitch when someone pulls the same crap on you.

Am I bitching?

No, but you have, and you will. Just remember the next time you're ripped off that you found yourself justified in ripping off others, thereby giving other justification to rip you off.
 

DannyBoy

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DnaJ
Originally posted by: Amused

You also can't link for sh!t.

The funny thing about immorality is that you lose all eright to bitch when someone pulls the same crap on you.

Am I bitching?

No, but you have, and you will. Just remember the next time you're ripped off that you found yourself justified in ripping off others, thereby giving other justification to rip you off.

YGPM.
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: async
For what its worth, this is the same company that failed to deliver me a 120GB HD (when that was considered big). The only way to contact them is their through their own proprietary e-notes system, they don't publish any phone numbers or emails, and they ignored me for over 5 weeks.

I actually told DivideByZero he'd be a fool to deal with this company, especially on large orders. The way I see it is if they can be ignorant a-holes to their customers, then fsck them if they get it wrong.

DivideByZero - hold the A64 ransom and threaten to cut a pin off every hour until they return my hard drive.

QFT.

These nobbers are insanely hard to contact, so getting the point accross and getting the matter resolved would be very difficult and time consuming. Hence they should mind THIER own business as mistakes cost them money, not my inability to conatct them about the issue. That and the fact that yeah, I'm pretty pumped that I got double.

Amused, suck on my nuts. :p
 

DannyBoy

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: async
For what its worth, this is the same company that failed to deliver me a 120GB HD (when that was considered big). The only way to contact them is their through their own proprietary e-notes system, they don't publish any phone numbers or emails, and they ignored me for over 5 weeks.

I actually told DivideByZero he'd be a fool to deal with this company, especially on large orders. The way I see it is if they can be ignorant a-holes to their customers, then fsck them if they get it wrong.

DivideByZero - hold the A64 ransom and threaten to cut a pin off every hour until they return my hard drive.

QFT.

These nobbers are insanely hard to contact, so getting the point accross and getting the matter resolved would be very difficult and time consuming. Hence they should mind THIER own business as mistakes cost them money, not my inability to conatct them about the issue. That and the fact that yeah, I'm pretty pumped that I got double.

Amused, suck on my nuts. :p

Are they northerners'?
 

five40

Golden Member
Oct 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: async
For what its worth, this is the same company that failed to deliver me a 120GB HD (when that was considered big). The only way to contact them is their through their own proprietary e-notes system, they don't publish any phone numbers or emails, and they ignored me for over 5 weeks.

I actually told DivideByZero he'd be a fool to deal with this company, especially on large orders. The way I see it is if they can be ignorant a-holes to their customers, then fsck them if they get it wrong.

DivideByZero - hold the A64 ransom and threaten to cut a pin off every hour until they return my hard drive.

QFT.

These nobbers are insanely hard to contact, so getting the point accross and getting the matter resolved would be very difficult and time consuming. Hence they should mind THIER own business as mistakes cost them money, not my inability to conatct them about the issue. That and the fact that yeah, I'm pretty pumped that I got double.

Amused, suck on my nuts. :p

I'm with you Divide. Just keep the crap. I had a VERY similar thing happen to me and I tried to be the nice consumer and call the company and let them know what happened. They said they would send me shipping lables so I could send everything back. About 2 months later and 6 or 7 phone calls regarding the same issue, I NEVER recieved the lables. So I said screw it, I'm keeping everything. It's not worth the hassle. They made a mistake so oh well.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
If you had any morals, you'd return it. If you don't, then you'll be added to many people's DNT lists as well as mine :)
Do the right thing.

id still trade with him
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

These nobbers are insanely hard to contact, so getting the point accross and getting the matter resolved would be very difficult and time consuming. Hence they should mind THIER own business as mistakes cost them money, not my inability to conatct them about the issue. That and the fact that yeah, I'm pretty pumped that I got double.

Amused, suck on my nuts. :p

I never said you had to go out of your way to contact them. An attempted phone call and E-mail would be fine. If they ignore you after that, it's their loss.

Come on now, it is how YOU would want to be treated, right?
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

These nobbers are insanely hard to contact, so getting the point accross and getting the matter resolved would be very difficult and time consuming. Hence they should mind THIER own business as mistakes cost them money, not my inability to conatct them about the issue. That and the fact that yeah, I'm pretty pumped that I got double.

Amused, suck on my nuts. :p

I never said you had to go out of your way to contact them. An attempted phone call and E-mail would be fine. If they ignore you after that, it's their loss.

Come on now, it is how YOU would want to be treated, right?

I have done this. I mentioned this in the thread. The phone lines were cut off due to them being spammed by irrate customers like Async ages ago.

Agreed, I wouldn't personally like to be treated this way, but they are not one individual and there are too many reasons against helping these people out. I'm a busy man, I'm off to Saudi on Monday. Should I call them from there and sort out their mistake? No. Just hard cheese IMHO.
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: dabuddha
If you had any morals, you'd return it. If you don't, then you'll be added to many people's DNT lists as well as mine :)
Do the right thing.

id still trade with him

:thumbsup:Cheers! :beer:
 

Chiropteran

Diamond Member
Nov 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: Amused
That it's a company is irrelevant. A company is a group of individuals, all negatively impacted by your actions here. So instead of screwing over one person, now you've screwed dozens.

Not at all. A company is out there for one purpose- to make money. They do what they can to take advantage of you, it's not your responsibility to pay for the mistakes they make.

An online trader or seller is just looking to get something for an older, less useful piece of hardware. They, for the most part, are not out for profit above all else.

Corporations are not your friends. I can't believe you would even try to compare the two.
 

Sphexi

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
If you had any morals, you'd return it. If you don't, then you'll be added to many people's DNT lists as well as mine :)
Do the right thing.

Confirmed. If it were your company and you made a mistake like that, I'd hope you'd want the person to return the stuff rather than you take a substantial loss on the products. If you're any kind of real techie you'll do the right thing and return it.


Upon reading through the rest of the thread, and seeing that you have tried to contact them and failed because of whatever low-end crap system they have on their end, I definitely wouldn't feel nearly as bad simply keeping it then. If you hadn't attempted to get ahold of them and had just kept your mouth shut hoping they wouldn't notice it'd be a different story, but you've made the effort and they obviously have bigger problems right now to worry about.
 

exilera

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Apr 12, 2005
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
If you had any morals, you'd return it. If you don't, then you'll be added to many people's DNT lists as well as mine :)
Do the right thing.

"Do the right thing" is subjective. It's not his fault the company made a mistake, why should he pay for shipping and send the extra parts back? Maybe the company will learn from their mistake.