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I got harassed last night

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Originally posted by: AUMM
Originally posted by: rahvin
Rolling up your window and honking your horn was incredibly stupid and could have gotten you sent to jail for a nice trumped up charge of interfereing with an investigation. You should have refused to allow him to search your car and just left it at that. When he ordered you out you should have gotten out and reiterated that he did not have your permission to search your vehicle. Had he then gone through with the search you would have had a tortable action against the officer and department. Something I would have reminded him of before I even got out of the car. In fact if he started the search I would have pulled my cellphone out and called a civil tort lawyer on the spot.

But couldnt the officer just claim that you gave him consent to search?

Of course he could, then of course it would depend on your credibility in front of the jury. you have to understand that a civil tort action does not require proof beyond a reasonable doubt, only a preponderance of the evidence. With a cop that bad I would bet there are complaints on the record against him and even if you don't win you will put the blackmark on his record that will cost him a promotion and will make him lose the next time it happens. Even if you don't win you should press it on the principle of it. People in power must always be aware of the consequences and that they aren't above the law.

The other thing to remember is that if you don't give permission and he searchs anyway and finds something incriminating then the evidence will more than likely be inadmissible unless he has more than himself to say you gave permission or has something written.
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
they should have done a body cavity search on you

i think people that are not criminals should cooperate with law enforcement officials

i don't see what was unreasonable about his request, you were on a public road

Yet, the OT has his every right to say no to the search and then the officer can still only call in a k-9 squad to do a "search on the outside of the car" and if the dog didn;t pick up anything and if the officer doesn't sees anything of any interest to him on the inside of the car. There;s nothing the cop can do. The cop and the driver have their own both legal rights and duties.

Personal reasons doesn;t cut it... Next time flash your Desert Eagle .50 and when you flash it, be prepare to go in a shootout and floor the car... and go for a border such as mexico... 🙂
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
they should have done a body cavity search on you

i think people that are not criminals should cooperate with law enforcement officials

i don't see what was unreasonable about his request, you were on a public road

Then why and hell don't you move to a country that has already taken rights away from its citizens, you frigging coward. Our government wants to scare us in to submission to gain total control, and miserable little cowards like you are making it way too easy for them.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: FoBoT
they should have done a body cavity search on you

i think people that are not criminals should cooperate with law enforcement officials

i don't see what was unreasonable about his request, you were on a public road

Believe the 4th amendmant disagrees with you.


QFT, Im in AP Government Right now, and the gov has NO right to search anything w/o a warrant. Or at least without a good reason (for certain items).

~new
 
Originally posted by: NeonAura
Originally posted by: UNESC0
until they come to your house to do a search
"but you're not a criminal, then there's nothing to hide" only leads to greater and greater erosion of personal freedoms.
Soon we'll be waking up to viewscreens on our walls. Those viewscreens will be monitoring us.

1982 omgzors..

uhhhhhh, it would be 1984 by George Orwell
 
Originally posted by: WiseOldDude
Originally posted by: FoBoT
they should have done a body cavity search on you

i think people that are not criminals should cooperate with law enforcement officials

i don't see what was unreasonable about his request, you were on a public road

Then why and hell don't you move to a country that has already taken rights away from its citizens, you frigging coward. Our government wants to scare us in to submission to gain total control, and miserable little cowards like you are making it way too easy for them.

I see no reason to sugar coat it to spare his feelings.
 
i'm surprise he didn't pull the tazer on you for not getting out of car j/k
looks like the cop was being asshole cuz you raise your voice at him.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: CHfan4ever
Why didnt you do this to the bad cop? 😛

🙁 This is obviously a what not to do video. I looked up the producers of the video "In the line of Duty" And thier FAQ reads as follows:

Q: What is In the Line of Duty?

A: In the Line of Duty started as a monthly videotape training service for law enforcement in 1995.

Q: How would you describe your videos?

A: The videos (produced monthly) are generally between 30 and 45 minutes and are cored around 'lessons learned' by officers in actual incidents.

I bet they said cap his ass when he rushed you the first time.

jeezus. did that cop get killed?:Q

i still can't figure out why the officer hesitated. it would have been one warning and pop, pop, pop.
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
they should have done a body cavity search on you

i think people that are not criminals should cooperate with law enforcement officials

i don't see what was unreasonable about his request, you were on a public road

the same would apply for them wanting to storm your home. Oh wait they can under the Patriot Act....

cough.
 
this is amazing , i don't think i have ever been quoted so many times in a single thread :laugh:

you'd think this was in P&N


ooo, awoooo, big scary policeman wants to search a car, the constitution is dying because an officer wants to see if the <ordinary citizen> has pot in his car
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: FoBoT
they should have done a body cavity search on you

i think people that are not criminals should cooperate with law enforcement officials

i don't see what was unreasonable about his request, you were on a public road

"The right of the people to be secure in their person, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized."

The Constitution/Bill of Rights.

Learn it, live it, love it.

In Today's world of Terror, Extremism, False Alarms, Neon Purple Warnings, and what-not the Constitution, never-the-less the Bill of Rights, is a forgotten entity. It has been eroded to just a shell.
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
this is amazing , i don't think i have ever been quoted so many times in a single thread :laugh:

you'd think this was in P&N


ooo, awoooo, big scary policeman wants to search a car, the constitution is dying because an officer wants to see if the <ordinary citizen> has pot in his car

If they can search your car without probable cause, do you agree they should be able to search your home whenever they feel like it without probable cause?
 
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: quakefiend420

Seems strange to me...wonder if anything is being left out (smelled like pot, weaving on the road, etc)

not weaving, i pulled up to a license/insurance check at about 15mph...i would have had to be turning the wheel 180 degrees to have been swerving

and i haven't smoked pot since friday night of last week, and i don't smoke in my car at all, so negative on that one as well

EDIT: see my pic i posted a little ways back...and you'll probably see why i got messed with

So.....there's NO chance he could have smelled anything on you? You know, I can smell cigarettes on someone for days. Every smoke in the car? Maybe your car smells like pot and you don't know it.[/quote]

as i said earlier i don't smoke in my vehicle at all and i don't drive when i've been smoking...not to mention i had showered 3 times since then and was wearing clean clothes...so yeah i would say he didn't smell anything on me
 
Originally posted by: Savarak
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
went through a roadblock, cop wanted to check my license and insurance...after he ran both he came back asking if there was anything in the car he "should know about"

i told him there wasn't, he asks "are you sure" twice..i tell him no quite forcefully

You should've said "YES" to the question "ARE YOU SURE". hehe.

haha, oops...you know what i meant 😱

and man, this thread got popular while i was gone 🙂
 
Originally posted by: newParadigm
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: FoBoT
they should have done a body cavity search on you

i think people that are not criminals should cooperate with law enforcement officials

i don't see what was unreasonable about his request, you were on a public road

Believe the 4th amendmant disagrees with you.


QFT, Im in AP Government Right now, and the gov has NO right to search anything w/o a warrant. Or at least without a good reason (for certain items).

~new

If they believe you are a terrorist or a threat to national security they can. The patriot act sidesteps the constitution
 
Originally posted by: Linux23
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: CHfan4ever
Why didnt you do this to the bad cop? 😛

🙁 This is obviously a what not to do video. I looked up the producers of the video "In the line of Duty" And thier FAQ reads as follows:

Q: What is In the Line of Duty?

A: In the Line of Duty started as a monthly videotape training service for law enforcement in 1995.

Q: How would you describe your videos?

A: The videos (produced monthly) are generally between 30 and 45 minutes and are cored around 'lessons learned' by officers in actual incidents.

I bet they said cap his ass when he rushed you the first time.

jeezus. did that cop get killed?:Q

i still can't figure out why the officer hesitated. it would have been one warning and pop, pop, pop.


Unfortunatly, yeah the cop got killed with a bullet right in the eye.The cop in question was just this minor "road agent" giving speed tickets etc, not taking care of criminal.

His hesitation kill him simply.
 
Should have taken his badge number, pulled into the next parking lot, parked, called his supervisor and reported it right then and there.
 
Well done. *cheers*

We need more people to start standing up to abuses of power (intelligently).

Rule #1 - you NEVER have permission to search my vehicle. If they choose to after that, I will answer no questions without a lawyer present, and will not offer any voluntary assistance (though neither will I actively resist)...pasivity is the key. Then, the next day, I'll sue for so much money I never have to work again. 😎
 
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