I got a question regarding the US army and Dishonorable discharge......

[The Stigenator]

The reason.. this girl I know.. is way too busy.. she works 52 hrs (school + work) or more and doesnt have time to do things. Plus she isnt happy.. because her mom is ratting on her to get out because they didnt promise what they were to promise (they decived her.. she is looking into teh papers to see if there was any written commitment to certain things on signing up).

the question is if she does get dishonorably discharged what are the future fall outs.. like job prospects. As far as I know most employers dnt do a back ground check..

Anything else that can come into problems?

Dont give me the rant about her being a traitor.. let me just say she has been putting up with her sargent and she has been putting up with it until now but now she can no longer take it.. She is mentally troubled and Ican see it in her as her best friend.

She has to go into camp pendelton this weekend ,but she has work (damn work didnt give her off) and she has a mid term.. she wants to go, and knows she is not in shape to do that 2 mile run in 20 minutes (we clocked 1 mile in 8 minutes (that including walking) and she doesnt know if she can do it without me at her side.


so what's the outcome?
any suggestions? She is between a rock and a stone (not a hard place).. she is really in a tough spot.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: The_good_guy
The reason.. this girl I know.. is way too busy.. she works 52 hrs (school + work) or more and doesnt have time to do things. Plus she isnt happy.. because her mom is ratting on her to get out because they didnt promise what they were to promise (they decived her.. she is looking into teh papers to see if there was any written commitment to certain things on signing up).

the question is if she does get dishonorably discharged what are the future fall outs.. like job prospects. As far as I know most employers dnt do a back ground check..

Anything else that can come into problems?

Dont give me the rant about her being a traitor.. let me just say she has been putting up with her sargent and she has been putting up with it until now but now she can no longer take it.. She is mentally troubled and Ican see it in her as her best friend.

She has to go into camp pendelton this weekend ,but she has work (damn work didnt give her off) and she has a mid term.. she wants to go, and knows she is not in shape to do that 2 mile run in 20 minutes (we clocked 1 mile in 8 minutes (that including walking) and she doesnt know if she can do it without me at her side.


so what's the outcome?
any suggestions? She is between a rock and a stone (not a hard place).. she is really in a tough spot.

Tough! she has to live with it.

If she bails out and gets a dishonarable discharge it will mess up job offers.

i know when i was doing all the hireing at my last job i would look at if someone had armed forces on the resume. if they did i would hire them first over someone who did not have any and im not the only one that did.

They will do a background check and find out she was dishonarably discharged and she will have a hard time to getting a job.

she signed up for her time she needs to fill it. if she does not like the job she has now she needs to ask to be transfered. Maybe geting away from her mother willl help out also.

 

[Amused]

A dishonerable discharge is about as bad as having a felony record.

52 hours a week? This is too much?

Tell her to stop whining and have her tell her mom to shut the hell up. Stick it out.

She's not in a tough spot. She's in life. What she's going through is not all that bad.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I work 40 hours a week and take 15 hours worth of classes..... Life's not easy...it's not always fun...
Tell her that she only has to make it for another month or so and she can cut her hours back in school if need be. Help her prioritize everything the right way. Military/School/Work....that should be the order. She can then restructure her schedule.

 

[The Stigenator]

assume she does not mention her military record ,would they be more or less do a background check..

I mean if they do find a military record (assuming its declared) would she have an chance to explain why?

The other optoin I said to her was get injured while there. I know a guy in the US navy who intentinoally (though he claims otherwise) got injured so he could get out. But then his family is fscked up.

She would want to continue but for how long (she doesnt know) she has to go for.. and moving out is not an option.

 

[pulse8]

The other optoin I said to her was get injured while there.

You actually suggested this to her? That's real good.

 

[kranky]

A dishonorable discharge doesn't look good. I'm sure there are employers who wouldn't care, though.

I hope she can find a way to get through this without having that on her record. Is there any way for her to get out of the Army WITHOUT getting a dishonorable discharge?

 

[LH]

A dishonorable discharge is worse than most felonies when it comes to getting a job. And nope she wouldnt get a chance to explain, she wouldnt make in to an interview in most cases.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: The_good_guy
assume she does not mention her military record ,would they be more or less do a background check..

I mean if they do find a military record (assuming its declared) would she have an chance to explain why?

The other optoin I said to her was get injured while there. I know a guy in the US navy who intentinoally (though he claims otherwise) got injured so he could get out. But then his family is fscked up.

She would want to continue but for how long (she doesnt know) she has to go for.. and moving out is not an option.

First how is she going to explain the gap in her resume about work?

second they WILL find out if they do a background check (and more are doing it now) and she will NOT get the job.

third Fu$% her if she gets hurt intentionally!

Tell this girl that it is time to grow up. she took on a responbility and she has to finish it. Many people do not like the military BUT stay and finish there time.

I would really take her out and tell her to grow up its not going to get any easyer on her at all. Not just the military but LIFE. If she cant handle it now then she is really going to be upset when she has real responbilitys like a family and kids.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Messing up her job offers is an understatement. Getting a dishonorable discharge fscks you over.

nik

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: kranky
A dishonorable discharge doesn't look good. I'm sure there are employers who wouldn't care, though.

I hope she can find a way to get through this without having that on her record. Is there any way for her to get out of the Army WITHOUT getting a dishonorable discharge?

yeah get a medical discharge. But then you get put on disablity and WE have to pay for that. just because she is to f'ing lazy, immature to finish her time

oh the other way to get out is FINISH HER FU$% TIME!

 

[Amused]

A dishonerable discharge WILL show up in most common backround checks done by most employers. I know the firm I pay for checking employees has military history included in their reports.

BTW, it is my policy to NOT hire people with a dishonerable discharge.

 

[Jzero]

How did she enlist in the army and not know how long her commitment is?
Why does she live at home and not on the base?
Why is she serving AND going to school AND working? The army doesn't pay a whole heck of a lot, especially if you are just an enlistee, but I would think it would be enough for young adult with no kids to get by without needing a part time job...

 

[Brutuskend]

There are OTHER ways to get out (Esp. if your a woman) than to get a dishonorable discharge.

 

[The Stigenator]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
There are OTHER ways to get out (Esp. if your a woman) than to get a dishonorable discharge.

True.. i gave her the option of me knocking her up she wouldnt take it.. I am not from her cultural background.

anyway she is an army reserve.. and she doesnt get paid.. as much as teh ads state.. only 110 bucks a month.

 

[FoBoT]

feast for freedom

that is how a buddy of mine got out early

eat and eat and eat

you don't meet the physical requirements anymore, they dischare you , its an administrative i think, but maybe a medical discharge

either way, administrative or medical is no big deal


but , i think she would show a lot more character to honor her comittment and stay in and do the time

 

[rayray2]

Tell her to go smoke some pot, and then tell her superiors that she did it. They will give her a urine analysis, and then when it comes back positive, they will have no choice but to release her with an "other than honorable" discharge. It is a non-punative discharge. Not nearly as bad as a "dishonorable" or "bad conduct" discharge.

 

[AU Tiger]

She should try to stick it out. I find it hard to believe her work would not let her off for training. Aren't they required to give her the time by law?

 

[bunker]

You didn't mention she was a reservist in your original post. Work has to give her the time off, it's the law. I don't know about school.

 

[Christoph]

Perhaps she could discover her latent lesbianism and tell her CO about it.

 

[Mister T]

your friend is a lazy bum.

tell her to grow up and deal with it. If I worked 52 hours a week, I wouldn't know what to do with myself... I average about 80 a week and I only get pissed when I start logging ~100+ Someone needs to be harsh with her because life is no picnic...

 

[Aceman]

YOU HAVE A PM.

 

[BoberFett]

She's in the reserves and that's too much? It's two frigging days a month. Her menstrual cycle is more of an inconvenience than the army.

Tell her to stop being such a damn baby.

 

[Nocturnal]

dont you train just one weekend a month? yeah, feast for freedom, or tell her to claim shes a lesbian. itll work.

 

[Aceman]

You need to pm me back the full story.

She is probably NOT going to get a General (Under Other Than Honorable Conditions) discharge. Processing transfers and discharges takes up about 25% of my day. If she is in the USAR, she will probably be transferred to the IRR and have any benefits and entitlements taken away....for good. (GI Bill, Student Loan Repayment, bonus) PM me and I can probably give some calls and get her out of the bind.