I fvcking hate computers.

[ForumMaster]

Originally posted by: simms
I'm still running a mobile barton...?

same here. run's great. maybe not oblivion, but good none the less. i am probablly going to skip s754 and jump on to 939 late when the prices are really low and AM2 comes out.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: iamtrout
You guys think I should wait? I can always sell these parts on eBay immediately after I receive them, and wait... for Conroe or AM2 but they're still at least a few months off god fvcking dammit.

just wait for it or youre going to shoot yourself in the next few months

Seems that your current comp is pretty new. So I would wait. I upgraded from a mobile barton and a 9800 Pro, to a Opteron 146 and 7800GT last October. I plan on upgrading again when conroe comes out, assuming AMD doesn't have something better by then

EDIT: I know where your coming from with Oblivion, so if your really itching to upgrade, I would (personally) buy the ASRock board with the AGP and PCIe slots this month along with a single core opteron (dual core isn't needed right now and is overrated) like mine for $120+$60. Then next month or a couple months down the line you can upgrade the video card to PCIe. I also think the 500 will be enough power but not sure

 

[iamtrout]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Why do you need all of that? If my 1.4Ghz Thunderbird wasn't so unstable I'd never upgrade. Even with all of its faults I don't plan on an upgrade for at least a few more months.

Originally posted by: iamtrout
A64 3000+ 754pin - can't stand single core processing anymore, gah! Too many things going on at once...

Oh and regarding that... well, my friend multitasks Runescape, Deus Ex, and sometimes the Unreal engine all at once on a PIII 800Mhz. It runs like hell but it still works.

I don't want to "run like hell." If all I played were old games like the ones you mentioned, I wouldn't be wanting this upgrade.

I'm just sick and tired of my computer being completely bogged down at 100% CPU utilization for half an hour as I do my image processing tasks...

 

[SaturnX]

It's unfortunate then that AMD is phasing out the 939/941 socket, way to join the party late!

--Mark

 

[mrchan]

I just upgraded my Celeron 566 @ 850 (slot 1) to a celeron 1.3 @ 1.45.

Don't get too jealous.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: iamtrout
I don't want to "run like hell." If all I played were old games like the ones you mentioned, I wouldn't be wanting this upgrade.

I'm just sick and tired of my computer being completely bogged down at 100% CPU utilization for half an hour as I do my image processing tasks...

I'm just saying that a 3000+ really shouldn't be so bad when it comes to multitasking if a PIII can do it. FEAR and Far Cry are old games? Those are probably the two best looking games out, aside from maybe Half-Life II (which also runs great, btw).

 

[Corporate Thug]

you hate computer so you spend a grand on a new one? makes sense to me...

 

[iamtrout]

Originally posted by: SaturnX
It's unfortunate then that AMD is phasing out the 939/941 socket, way to join the party late!

--Mark

That's actually what I'm afraid of... when I got my s754 it was phased out within a month for s939. Then came PCI-E... joining the party late sucks, but doesn't joining the party early mean price premiums?

 

[FoBoT]

your old computer was way way good

go cry a river if you want to spend $ on bleeding edge

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: SaturnX
It's unfortunate then that AMD is phasing out the 939/941 socket, way to join the party late!

--Mark

Would it really matter that much though? When the 754s and 939s were released, even highend AXPs were sold around $200 IIRC. Of course, since AM2 isn't out yet it'd be bad to buy right now, but wouldn't it be pretty good for the person who only upgrades every few years do buy a generation behind?

 

[iamtrout]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: iamtrout
I don't want to "run like hell." If all I played were old games like the ones you mentioned, I wouldn't be wanting this upgrade.

I'm just sick and tired of my computer being completely bogged down at 100% CPU utilization for half an hour as I do my image processing tasks...

I'm just saying that a 3000+ really shouldn't be so bad when it comes to multitasking if a PIII can do it. FEAR and Far Cry are old games? Those are probably the two best looking games out, aside from maybe Half-Life II (which also runs great, btw).

You mentioned Deux Ex and Runescape in your last post... not FEAR and Far Cry...

And by "bad" multitasking I mean that my computer more or less refuses to respond when I do a certain image processing task. At most I can use firefox, which means I can't edit other images as this is going on.

 

[Firsttime]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Guess my recent upgrade to a S754 Sempron was wasted, huh?

I'm still planning that upgrade.

I just made that upgade

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: iamtrout
You mentioned Deux Ex and Runescape in your last post... not FEAR and Far Cry...

And by "bad" multitasking I mean that my computer more or less refuses to respond when I do a certain image processing task. At most I can use firefox, which means I can't edit other images as this is going on.

That was regarding running both games at once. Personally, I don't multitask my computer games and when I don't pretty much any game will run fine.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: iamtrout
I don't want to "run like hell." If all I played were old games like the ones you mentioned, I wouldn't be wanting this upgrade.

I'm just sick and tired of my computer being completely bogged down at 100% CPU utilization for half an hour as I do my image processing tasks...

I'm just saying that a 3000+ really shouldn't be so bad when it comes to multitasking if a PIII can do it. FEAR and Far Cry are old games? Those are probably the two best looking games out, aside from maybe Half-Life II (which also runs great, btw).

No dude your way behind the times. Doom3 slaughters a PC that would run Far Cry flawlessly, and a computer like mine above, that will run Doom3 and HL2 and Fear all day with everything max with great framerates, will get slaughtered by Oblivion.

I have to turn some things down or I find Oblivion just about unplayable, and I never thought my 7800 GT would get bogged down so fast since I've only had it 6 months.

Oblivion will be like Far Cry was when it first came out - People won't be able to get the most out of the game until the next gen of video cards comes out

 

[iamtrout]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: iamtrout
I don't want to "run like hell." If all I played were old games like the ones you mentioned, I wouldn't be wanting this upgrade.

I'm just sick and tired of my computer being completely bogged down at 100% CPU utilization for half an hour as I do my image processing tasks...

I'm just saying that a 3000+ really shouldn't be so bad when it comes to multitasking if a PIII can do it. FEAR and Far Cry are old games? Those are probably the two best looking games out, aside from maybe Half-Life II (which also runs great, btw).

No dude your way behind the times. Doom3 slaughters a PC that would run Far Cry flawlessly, and a computer like mine above, that will run Doom3 and HL2 and Fear all day with everything max with great framerates, will get slaughtered by Oblivion.

I have to turn some things down or I find Oblivion just about unplayable, and I never thought my 7800 GT would get bogged down so fast since I've only had it 6 months.

Oblivion will be like Far Cry was when it first came out - People won't be able to get the most out of the game until the next gen of video cards comes out

I 100% agree. My current rig can do Far Cry, Doom, HL2 just fine at 16x12 with everything maxed but with no AA. Then comes Oblivion and it gets buttfvcked at 1024x768.

 

[Homerboy]

No dude your way behind the times. Doom3 slaughters a PC that would run Far Cry flawlessly, and a computer like mine above, that will run Doom3 and HL2 and Fear all day with everything max with great framerates, will get slaughtered by Oblivion.

I have to turn some things down or I find Oblivion just about unplayable, and I never thought my 7800 GT would get bogged down so fast since I've only had it 6 months.

Oblivion will be like Far Cry was when it first came out - People won't be able to get the most out of the game until the next gen of video cards comes out

because its all about the polygons...
don't believe the hype kids... THIS is what is exactly wrong with gaming today. "Screw the story and playabilty, just give them more polys and hig res textures to glaze them over"

 

[RallyMaster]

My computer does everything at 1280x1024 with max settings in game except when it comes to FEAR...that bitch of a game won't run at more than 1024x768. Guess it's time for me to upgrade too, eh? (No, it's not. It would be an utter waste of money like your computer.)

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
No dude your way behind the times. Doom3 slaughters a PC that would run Far Cry flawlessly, and a computer like mine above, that will run Doom3 and HL2 and Fear all day with everything max with great framerates, will get slaughtered by Oblivion.

I have to turn some things down or I find Oblivion just about unplayable, and I never thought my 7800 GT would get bogged down so fast since I've only had it 6 months.

Oblivion will be like Far Cry was when it first came out - People won't be able to get the most out of the game until the next gen of video cards comes out

Doom 3 sucks just like 99% of all other iD games. You may have a point with Oblivion, however that 3000+ should still be plenty. Since when was Far Cry such a laggy game? My computer was a bit old even in 2004 yet it still ran fine.

Originally posted by: iamtrout
I 100% agree. My current rig can do Far Cry, Doom, HL2 just fine at 16x12 with everything maxed but with no AA. Then comes Oblivion and it gets buttfvcked at 1024x768.

1024x768? 640x480 is plenty, and even 320x240 is ok for games like FEAR that stay mostly indoors.

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: iamtrout
Opteron 165: $330
PNY 7900GT: $330
DFI Lanparty NF4 Expert: $160
Fortron FX700-GLN: $165

Replacing:
A64 3000+ 754pin - can't stand single core processing anymore, gah! Too many things going on at once...
EVGA 6800NU - Oblivion looks like ass.
Shuttle AN51R NF3 - eh
Fortron 500W Blue Storm - won't be able to handle the new system. Especially with my 6 hard drives, 2 opticals, and a pump.
Audigy 2 - sh!tty drivers. Gonna go onboard sound until x-Fi goes lower in price.

Hopefully when I get these parts I'll be overclocking the crap out of them with my watercooling... at this point overclocking is the ONLY saving grace of this price tag.

If you want to do other things at the same time just build a $400 comp to use to surf while you play.

 

[iamtrout]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

No dude your way behind the times. Doom3 slaughters a PC that would run Far Cry flawlessly, and a computer like mine above, that will run Doom3 and HL2 and Fear all day with everything max with great framerates, will get slaughtered by Oblivion.

I have to turn some things down or I find Oblivion just about unplayable, and I never thought my 7800 GT would get bogged down so fast since I've only had it 6 months.

Oblivion will be like Far Cry was when it first came out - People won't be able to get the most out of the game until the next gen of video cards comes out

because its all about the polygons...
don't believe the hype kids... THIS is what is exactly wrong with gaming today. "Screw the story and playabilty, just give them more polys and hig res textures to glaze them over"

We're not just talking about the polygons here. IMO Oblivion is WAY better than Far Cry or Doom3 because it has an absolutely awesome story. FINALLY, a truly legendary game comes out, and I can't run it without it looking like sh!t. A large part of Oblivion relies on immersion and realism, and while without these it's still an amazing game... without the eye candy to create that immersion a large part of the game's awesomeness if gone.

 

[SaturnX]

Originally posted by: iamtrout

Originally posted by: SaturnX
It's unfortunate then that AMD is phasing out the 939/941 socket, way to join the party late!

--Mark

That's actually what I'm afraid of... when I got my s754 it was phased out within a month for s939. Then came PCI-E... joining the party late sucks, but doesn't joining the party early mean price premiums?

Actually according to AMD's Roadmap, the 939/941 will be phased out about a year or two BEFORE the 754. There's going to be a whole slew of new hardware coming out over the next little while, upgrading now was a little silly, IMHO.

--Mark

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: Soccer55
Wow, I'd take your "old" system over my AthlonXP 2600+ and my GF4 Ti 4200.

-Tom

Heh, that was my system when I started college. Graduating now, haha

 

[Vinny N]

Originally posted by: Soccer55
Wow, I'd take your "old" system over my AthlonXP 2600+ and my GF4 Ti 4200.

-Tom

Yes. Perspective is key in upgrades.

I'd take your system over my AthlonXP 1900+ and Geforce 2 GTS.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: iamtrout
We're not just talking about the polygons here. IMO Oblivion is WAY better than Far Cry or Doom3 because it has an absolutely awesome story. FINALLY, a truly legendary game comes out, and I can't run it without it looking like sh!t. A large part of Oblivion relies on immersion and realism, and while without these it's still an amazing game... without the eye candy to create that immersion a large part of the game's awesomeness if gone.

Same here, I really want to play Oblivion because I liked Morrowind and it got good ratings, but I just don't have the money to upgrade. Running on a Barton 2500+ and a 9800 Pro, and I thought this stuff was ridicuously expensive ($100, $180) when I got it to play Half-Life 2.

 

[SampSon]

You do graphic design but don't have multiple powerful computers to work on?
noob.