Amen brother, way too many d1cks....
"dude, I am soooo extreme I go to Hardforums (to hide the fact that I am a complete weenie)"
Amen brother, way too many d1cks....
"dude, I am soooo extreme I go to Hardforums (to hide the fact that I am a complete weenie)"
Welcome Jello....good group of people here.
(Just don't talk about your girlfriend/boyfriend unless you post a pic with it.)
*edit: Of course, most of us could do without your boyfriend's pic if that's the case. (IMO)
(Just don't talk about your girlfriend/boyfriend unless you post a pic with it.)
*edit: Of course, most of us could do without your boyfriend's pic if that's the case. (IMO)
Well I don't want to appear like I'm coming here to whine about HF... wouldn't want Kyle to say I need dress shields and panty liner.
But hell, I don't mind satisfying anyone's curiousity, especially since that thread doesn't tell the whole story.
I wasn't the only one banned. hdeck, my roommate, who CIWS assumed was me, was also banned. Another friend, who made good points in my favor, and supported the hArDOCp argument, HAD HIS POST DELETED. That is the most amazing part of the whole thing. I just didn't expect them to delete a post simply because it showed them to be wrong.
Bah.. I'll just paste the whole email thing. At this point, after typing all that crap, I don't give a damn if it looks like I'm whining. Plus the other folks who got banned on my account can read it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: winkosmosis@oplnk.net [mailto:winkosmosis@oplnk.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:35 PM
> To: kyle@hardocp.com
> Subject: Jellomancer Banned?
>
>
> Wow... I (Jellomancer) just wrote a reply to the "MAC/Apple Forum
> Description" thread and what do I see? That I am banned! I am in complete
> awe. It seems that CIWS has banned me for disagreeing with him. If you can
> see any rule breakage, please let me know.
>
> http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?s=42cc3f08199b3f80f114918e29e1a686&
> threadid=492917
>
>
>
> I really am in shock. I can be an asshole sometimes, but I'm 100% certain
> that this wasn't one of those times. You sure as hell don't remember, but
> I remember starting a thread two years ago calling you a moron for saying
> that GF2 Ultras should be overclocked for more Q3 fps or something. Why
> wasn't I banned then for being immature and stupid? Instead I am banned
> now for finding fault with your and CIW's apparent attitude toward the
> Apple people, without breaking a single rule (actually it looks like you
> were just jesting in GOOD FUN, like with the Apple forum subtitle, but
> CIWS appears to have took it seriously). I've always been the one who told
> people that they were allowed to disagree with the moderators, and here I
> am, being banned for that very thing. I apologize for believing that Mac
> fans shouldn't be ridiculed for complaining about the name of their forum
> and trying to defend them.
>
> I just noticed what CIWS put in my profile!
>
> Dis'n an Admin -CIWS
>
> It looks like CIWS saw that I didn't realize he was an admin, and took the
> stance, "Sucka! You didn't know I was an admin!" Right, I didn't. But even
> if I did, what difference does it make? What gives admins the right not to
> be disagreed with?
>
> !!! I didn't realize this is how the HF was run !!!
>
> I don't want to expend unecessary energy on this. I have more important
> things to worry about. But I would like an explanation. "Dis'n an Admin"
> is not a valid reason to be banned from HardForum IMO, especially not
> after two years of membership.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Bennett" <kyle@hardocp.com>
To: <winkosmosis@oplnk.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:36 PM
Subject: RE: Jellomancer Banned?
> The issues you took up have little to do with the topic posted. If you have
> issue with the way things are run , that is what email is for.
>
> _____________________________
>
> Kyle Bennett
> Editor-in-Chief @ HardOCP.com
> Owner @ Ratpadz.com
> _____________________________
I typed this email today. I'm not expecting Kyle to read it, so why not paste it here for other people to read?..
And that is grounds for bannage? Technically maybe, but it looks petty and childish to me. So does deleting a post made by my friend that has everything to do with the thread. Maybe it looked like I re-registered (1 post)? I can understand if I made a thread for the purpose of questioning the way things are run, because then the thread wouldn't fit the board. But the posts definately fit the thread. So I was banned for "questioning the way things are run" even though it fit entirely in the context of the thread, and I was RESPONDING to CIWS? And this is a bannable offense, the first time, for two year member? It doesn't add up.
I just saw that hdeck was banned..
His post:
maybe my eyes deceive me but i don't see where he was 'disin an admin'...really sad when you can't even voice your opinion without being banned...
EDIT CIWS- and you should know better than to have multiple accounts on the board Jello
CIWS should know better than to ban people for being me who aren't me. I especially take offense at this. I only have and have only ever had one account. Why is the IP address the same? Because he is my roommate! Don't you think he should be unbanned? And that post by someone else was deleted (the 1 post guy). This is a high school friend of mine. I assume he was banned as well. He registered for the very purpose of pointing out that unbanning me for "dis'n an admin" was unfair. Of course you can't read his post because CIWS deleted it.
You may have technical reason for banning me, but where's the justification for banning my friends?
Now I don't expect you to unban me.. that would mean wavering from your stance, "You questioned authority in a thread!" Fine. Just consider this whole thing please.
:Q:frown:
But hell, I don't mind satisfying anyone's curiousity, especially since that thread doesn't tell the whole story.
I wasn't the only one banned. hdeck, my roommate, who CIWS assumed was me, was also banned. Another friend, who made good points in my favor, and supported the hArDOCp argument, HAD HIS POST DELETED. That is the most amazing part of the whole thing. I just didn't expect them to delete a post simply because it showed them to be wrong.
Bah.. I'll just paste the whole email thing. At this point, after typing all that crap, I don't give a damn if it looks like I'm whining. Plus the other folks who got banned on my account can read it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: winkosmosis@oplnk.net [mailto:winkosmosis@oplnk.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:35 PM
> To: kyle@hardocp.com
> Subject: Jellomancer Banned?
>
>
> Wow... I (Jellomancer) just wrote a reply to the "MAC/Apple Forum
> Description" thread and what do I see? That I am banned! I am in complete
> awe. It seems that CIWS has banned me for disagreeing with him. If you can
> see any rule breakage, please let me know.
>
> http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?s=42cc3f08199b3f80f114918e29e1a686&
> threadid=492917
>
>
>
> I really am in shock. I can be an asshole sometimes, but I'm 100% certain
> that this wasn't one of those times. You sure as hell don't remember, but
> I remember starting a thread two years ago calling you a moron for saying
> that GF2 Ultras should be overclocked for more Q3 fps or something. Why
> wasn't I banned then for being immature and stupid? Instead I am banned
> now for finding fault with your and CIW's apparent attitude toward the
> Apple people, without breaking a single rule (actually it looks like you
> were just jesting in GOOD FUN, like with the Apple forum subtitle, but
> CIWS appears to have took it seriously). I've always been the one who told
> people that they were allowed to disagree with the moderators, and here I
> am, being banned for that very thing. I apologize for believing that Mac
> fans shouldn't be ridiculed for complaining about the name of their forum
> and trying to defend them.
>
> I just noticed what CIWS put in my profile!
>
> Dis'n an Admin -CIWS
>
> It looks like CIWS saw that I didn't realize he was an admin, and took the
> stance, "Sucka! You didn't know I was an admin!" Right, I didn't. But even
> if I did, what difference does it make? What gives admins the right not to
> be disagreed with?
>
> !!! I didn't realize this is how the HF was run !!!
>
> I don't want to expend unecessary energy on this. I have more important
> things to worry about. But I would like an explanation. "Dis'n an Admin"
> is not a valid reason to be banned from HardForum IMO, especially not
> after two years of membership.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Bennett" <kyle@hardocp.com>
To: <winkosmosis@oplnk.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:36 PM
Subject: RE: Jellomancer Banned?
> The issues you took up have little to do with the topic posted. If you have
> issue with the way things are run , that is what email is for.
>
> _____________________________
>
> Kyle Bennett
> Editor-in-Chief @ HardOCP.com
> Owner @ Ratpadz.com
> _____________________________
I typed this email today. I'm not expecting Kyle to read it, so why not paste it here for other people to read?..
And that is grounds for bannage? Technically maybe, but it looks petty and childish to me. So does deleting a post made by my friend that has everything to do with the thread. Maybe it looked like I re-registered (1 post)? I can understand if I made a thread for the purpose of questioning the way things are run, because then the thread wouldn't fit the board. But the posts definately fit the thread. So I was banned for "questioning the way things are run" even though it fit entirely in the context of the thread, and I was RESPONDING to CIWS? And this is a bannable offense, the first time, for two year member? It doesn't add up.
I just saw that hdeck was banned..
His post:
maybe my eyes deceive me but i don't see where he was 'disin an admin'...really sad when you can't even voice your opinion without being banned...
EDIT CIWS- and you should know better than to have multiple accounts on the board Jello
CIWS should know better than to ban people for being me who aren't me. I especially take offense at this. I only have and have only ever had one account. Why is the IP address the same? Because he is my roommate! Don't you think he should be unbanned? And that post by someone else was deleted (the 1 post guy). This is a high school friend of mine. I assume he was banned as well. He registered for the very purpose of pointing out that unbanning me for "dis'n an admin" was unfair. Of course you can't read his post because CIWS deleted it.
You may have technical reason for banning me, but where's the justification for banning my friends?
Now I don't expect you to unban me.. that would mean wavering from your stance, "You questioned authority in a thread!" Fine. Just consider this whole thing please.
:Q:frown:
Quoted from the |H|ard|OCP thread:
Don't look for a much different situation here, Jello. You piss off the mods, and you're screwed.
nik
Don't look for a much different situation here, Jello. You piss off the mods, and you're screwed.
nik
I've been threatened with such on the one time that I did voice my opinion without attempting to rip someone's head off at the same time.
I asked why, and I never got a response. I'm not sure if they are here anymore, but one mod in particular was out for blood for me because of a misunderstanding that they refused to see the real meaning behind.
nik
If I can get banned just for pissing off the mods, I don't think I would want to post here anyway. So there's no problem there! That is... unless my friends get banned too...
I have zero respect for authority, I just try to follow the rules.
The feelings mutual. However, if you follow the rules you wont be upsetting us. Enjoy your stay
I have zero respect for authority, I just try to follow the rules.
The feelings mutual. However, if you follow the rules you wont be upsetting us. Enjoy your stay
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
If I can get banned just for pissing off the mods, I don't think I would want to post here anyway. So there's no problem there!
I have zero respect for authority, I just try to follow the rules.
If you follow the rules, you're respecting authority over you who set those rules in place. Now, which one is it? You do or you don't?
nik
I mean that I follow the rules because I agree to them when I post on a forum. But I'm not going to give an authority figure undeserved respsect just because of his/her position.Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
If I can get banned just for pissing off the mods, I don't think I would want to post here anyway. So there's no problem there!
I have zero respect for authority, I just try to follow the rules.
If you follow the rules, you're respecting authority over you who set those rules in place. Now, which one is it? You do or you don't?
nik
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