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I finally moved to Vista64 - flawless

blackangst1

blackangst1

Lifer
Well, YMMV of course. Ive been using Vista32 for over a year now with no issues. Last black friday I picked up 4 gigs of much faster memory (previously 2 gigs). Of course, Windows only saw 3.3 gigs or so. I've been putting off moving to 64 bit due to lack of 64 bit drivers, but I finally got everything I need.

As with 32bit, installation was uneventful at 30 minutes or so. Didnt have one issue on installation of my programs. I do alot of audio/video encoding, play with encryption stuff, and game. Just a sample of a few programs that work fine for me:

Logitech Cam software
DVDShrink
ConvertXtoDVD
4 different Im Too audio/video apps
Ultra ISO
Microsoft Money2007
HP Printer/Scanner software
Macromedia Studio v8
Nero 7 Ultimate
uTorrent 4.6
WinRAR v3.7 Pro
Truecrypt v5a
PGP Pro desktop v9.8
TOR/Privoxy
Creative Labs Studio
Norton Internet Security 2007
Super Anti Spyware
Active Sync works fine with my Motorola Q smartphone

And a few others. All work perfectly. Also about 5 different games (all newer ones) and work fine.

The only real "tweaks" I made was disabling my swap drive for security reasons.

I *do* have to make one comment. I have seen all the benchmarks that show performance overall is negligable between 32 and 64 bit. But, my experience so far is it feels snappier. Could be perception, but nevertheless it is what it is.

Anyhow, if youre thinking of giving it a try I say go for it. We're heading there anyway 🙂

Below is my hardware.

Abit A9 Pro mobo
Intel Core2Duo 6700
Patriot Viper PVS24G6400LLK 2x2GB
Raptor 75 gig HD (OS/core)
Western Digital Caviar 320GB x 2 (storage and security testing)
Samsung 22" wide Sync Master 216BW monitor
Nvidia 8800 GTS 512
Wireless Laser Desktop 6000 (comfort curve)
Logitech 4000 Pro cam
APC500 power backup
Creative Labs 3 piece speakers (about 12 months old)
 
Vista 64 feels snappier for me too. Could be because all the 16bit legacy cruft has been completely removed. With that said, you do have more RAM now 😉


Benchmark-wise it OUGHT to be similar to 32bit Vista since in that situation it's just a matter of the OS getting out of the way of the program.
 

I digress...

I'm seriously mulling over doing this with my Toshiba A215 lappy, but I don't want to make everyone jealous - the #1 reason for running x64! 😀

This is a fairly new machine in 'desktop years' about 8 months old - which, unfortunately, makes it a dinosaur in the world of notebooks - things move so fast.

On topic...

I've read a few threads by ppl that own the same lappy as mine, and they said many of the same things as you, when they switched to x64!

i.e. AFTER tracking down a few drivers, the x64 install went great - and everything runs smoother - not necessarily faster...

Perceptions of SPEED (or not) aside, have you noticed an increase in SMOOTHNESS?

I'm not sure what they mean by 'smoother', and I'm not interested enough in an answer to register on those sites, soooooo...

Maybe YOU can explain it. 😉
 
Not sure what smoother means either lol my 32 bit was always...um...smooth. 64 just seem to do the same things a bit faster.
 
For those of you with x64 with more than 4 GB of RAM, I heard you need to install a KB file before you put in the rest of your RAM. I just finished putting together my new machine and was wondering what file that is before I begin to switch.
 
Originally posted by: atbnet
For those of you with x64 with more than 4 GB of RAM, I heard you need to install a KB file before you put in the rest of your RAM. I just finished putting together my new machine and was wondering what file that is before I begin to switch.
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This is only for certain hardware configurations, Nvidia boards are the biggest offenders I know of.
 
Another observation. 32 and 64 bit IE7.

Ive tried on several sites loading from a bookmark, as well as launching to my homepage. 64bit is NOTICEABLY faster, which makes sense being 64 bit native. So my question is, has anyone heard of any issues using 64 bit? I'll keep playing with it, but just wondering...
 
Originally posted by: stash
Originally posted by: atbnet
For those of you with x64 with more than 4 GB of RAM, I heard you need to install a KB file before you put in the rest of your RAM. I just finished putting together my new machine and was wondering what file that is before I begin to switch.
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This is only for certain hardware configurations, Nvidia boards are the biggest offenders I know of.
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And the issue occurs with 4gig as well as 4+. It really depends on the chipset as this only effects a small set of boards from what I recall.

Bill
 
Well, I'm on my new machine too with a Q6600 and 8 GB RAM using Vista HP x64. No problems so far, I've begun to install my old programs so we'll see.
 
Been using both 32-bit and 64-bit Vista Ultimate for over a year. Truthfully I don't notice any real difference between the two in snappiness. Both run well on fast hardware. The only issue I've had is that The Witcher runs fine in 64-bit while it has issues in 32-bit. Go figure.
 
I've been running 64 bit Home Premium on my Q6600 with 8GB + 8800GT
and it has been working decently well.

It is usually "fast" in general GUI and application oriented response (as you'd hope / expect given the hardware involved).

Unfortunately even with SP1 installed it is still most often "annoyingly slow, but not usually intolerably so" with respect to certain things like copying large numbers of files across a network or to a "live filesystem" DVD.

I think that in terms of "serious" applications like backup utilities (whether you're backing up to DVD, hard disc, or over a network), Vista's offerings are still just totally outclassed by 3rd party software in terms of feature set, and in terms of raw PERFORMANCE of copying the data XP is probably still much faster at least unless you have 3rd party tuning / application programs to help it make the most of your system's capabilities.

I've been also running Vista 32 Business on an older X2-4400 / 3GB DDR system. It seems to perform tolerably well for general use, though not nearly as well as XP or LINUX do on the same system AFAICT.

Unfortunately that 32-bitBusiness system has just been HORRIBLE in terms of compatibility / performance with respect to wireless networking.

I've had to change out / search for functional drivers several times. I've had to try almost every POSSIBLE combination of 3 wireless NICs and 3 wireless AP/routers (all 802.11b/g) in order to find one magic combination of hardware and software that even MOSTLY works. With the others I was getting like 300 BYTES per second throughput with the wireless link frequently disconnecting or sitting idle for no reason 98% of the time even when it had data to transfer.

That's in comparison to an Windows XP laptop RIGHT NEXT TO IT that has very few problems with wireless networking to the same access points.

AFAIK the RTL8185L wireless LAN chip based products == totally useless under VISTA despite it having fresh (12/2007) drivers for Vista from RealTek.

And whatever Vista's doing it seems to totally break with my old Buffalo access point too, though I've never had a problem using it with XP based clients.

The TCP autotuning parameter didn't seem to have any effect to improve / change the situation, so I don't think it was related to that. Nor did MMCS seem to be the problem (I wasn't playing any media anyway).

So I guess I'd give the thumbs up for acceptability of Vista 64 on a high end machine NOT heavily used for network file access, NOT used for DVD authoring / backup with VISTA native tools, and NOT used with wireless networking (unless you're lucky to have good compatible equipment).

 
Originally posted by: stash
Yeah no flash, thanks Adobe. Although Silverlight apparently doesn't work in IE7 x64 either.
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LoL!

That's a ^%$# deal breaker for me!!!

Thanks, my man... 😉
 
They still don't have a 64-bit version of Flash available yet? Could they just simply re-compile, or are the APIs different in x64?
 
Not sure what you guys are talking about...

According to the flash download page,

You have version 9,0,115,0 installed

edit nvm I see what you mean. 64 bit IE7 no flash.
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Not sure what you guys are talking about...

According to the flash download page,

You have version 9,0,115,0 installed

edit nvm I see what you mean. 64 bit IE7 no flash.
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Yeah. 😉

32-bit IE7 in Vista x64 runs flash just fine.

I say that to clarify things for others. It's only 64-bit IE7 that doesn't get flash yet.
 
Originally posted by: Continuity28
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Not sure what you guys are talking about...

According to the flash download page,

You have version 9,0,115,0 installed

edit nvm I see what you mean. 64 bit IE7 no flash.
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Yeah. 😉

32-bit IE7 in Vista x64 runs flash just fine.

I say that to clarify things for others. It's only 64-bit IE7 that doesn't get flash yet.
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Yep,personally I use Firefox 32 bit version with Flash,Java etc..with Thunderbird 64 bit version on my Vista x64,not like you can't run 32 bit web software 😉.
 
So I am brand new to Vista as a whole, and made the jump strait to x64 so I have a quick question (this seems to be a pretty good place since people are discussing flash)

I installed Minefield last night and went to a site that needed flash, I installed the flash plugin and instant bluescreen. OK. So I understand I can install Firefox 32-bit (I didn't really understand this before) but in regard to IE7, how do you differentiate between the 64bit and 32bit IE7's? I see IE7 and thats it, so I'm assuming it the 64bit version, do I need to go to the Program Files (x86) and find the IE7 and create a shortcut to it which would (presumably) be 32bit?
 
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