I dropped out of a class because students were cheating (at least in my opinion)

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: halik
Aww and you have no friends? I googled most of my Computational Theory homework... and I still maintain that being able to prove that something is NP-complete is an absolute waste of my time.

I guess you missed the entire point of theory classes huh.

most students even back when I entered college in 1990, no longer wanted challenges but easy A's.

So many didn't learn anything. If one wants to cheat in a class you don't need a solutions manual to do this (also I don't know of ANY textbook that doesn't have a teachers/solutions manual offered when that text has questions to be answered).

The teacher tries to catch as many as they can. They know there is cheating. As a student it's not so important what your classmates are doing as what you are.

In my Processor class there was C++ code floating around the teacher hinted at this and was hoping someone could do something different for once. (C++ was not a requirement).

I wrote the code in vbscript. I didn't always get the best grades, but I did end up with one of the few A's in that class.

Thats my idea on it as as well. I mean grades are great and all, but I can't see myself climbing very far in the real world copying other peoples work all the time. As well, usually if you do something different than the rest of the "zomg copy zee answers for easy grades!" students professors will notice that (for any professional field classes I suppose). I never did understand why people took theory or advanced mathematics if they were scared to think and just wanted easy grades.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: RichardE
Thats my idea on it as as well. I mean grades are great and all, but I can't see myself climbing very far in the real world copying other peoples work all the time. As well, usually if you do something different than the rest of the "zomg copy zee answers for easy grades!" students professors will notice that (for any professional field classes I suppose). I never did understand why people took theory or advanced mathematics if they were scared to think and just wanted easy grades.

There are two schools of thought on this. The popular one is college is just a means to an end....final GPA is king and getting out quickly gets one into earning. In most fields very little classroom knowledge is used and most can be learned in the first few years in the profession.

When I was in school I was constantly pushing my own limits. I wasn't looking at GPA or getting out quick. I took every core class for my majors even if they were labeled one vs another (unless redundant).

I even took a couple graduate courses for undergrad credit because I wanted to learn the advanced concepts (Queueing Theory and a Comparative Vertebrate Anatomy/Physiology class).