I dropped out of a class because students were cheating (at least in my opinion)

Random Variable

Lifer
A few students were able to locate a detailed solutions manual to the textbook. Normally that would be no big deal, but 75% of our grade was based upon homework from the textbook.

RandomFool

Diamond Member
... I don't get it?

k?

ksheets

Senior member
if a professor bases 75% of your grade on homework from a textbook where the solution guide is readily available is retarded and you are better off NOT taking his class

hypn0tik

Diamond Member
It's only cheating if the Prof. forbids the use of the solution manual.

halik

Lifer
Aww and you have no friends? I googled most of my Computational Theory homework... and I still maintain that being able to prove that something is NP-complete is an absolute waste of my time.

Random Variable

Lifer
Originally posted by: hypn0tik
It's only cheating if the Prof. forbids the use of the solution manual.

I don't even know if he knows that it exists.

halik

Lifer
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: halik
aww and you have no friends?

nope

Well take a second moment and stay positive...

Yes, that is the worst joke I've made in my life. Bar none. I feel bad for you if you get it.

Random Variable

Lifer
I had to think about it for a second, but I guess ?x²p(x) is always positive since p(x)>=0.

mugs

Lifer
Originally posted by: hypn0tik
It's only cheating if the Prof. forbids the use of the solution manual.

Uh... yeah, I'm sure whatever junior college you went to had that in the student handbook.

halik

Lifer
Originally posted by: Random Variable
I had to think about it for a second, but I guess ?x²p(x) is always positive since p(x)>=0.

Hehehe... I don't even know how I made that connection in my head.

RESmonkey

Diamond Member
Can't you (possibly anonymously) notify the prof.? You don't want people to cheat through life like that. Especially something that's related to their majors.

RandomFool

Diamond Member
Originally posted by: ksheets
if a professor bases 75% of your grade on homework from a textbook where the solution guide is readily available is retarded and you are better off NOT taking his class

Almost any solutions guide is readily available. I'd rather it be wieghted towards homework than quizzes/exams since. Homework is imo a better judge of actual knowledge.

herm0016

Diamond Member
not having the solution manual as a student is more a reason to drop out than having it.

copying out of it will not help you on a test, learning from it will.

sourceninja

Diamond Member
Yea, it's not big deal. I've given students open book tests and watched them fail. In the fields I teach, its more about knowing how to find information then memorize crap.

RESmonkey

Diamond Member
Originally posted by: sourceninja
Yea, it's not big deal. I've given students open book tests and watched them fail. In the fields I teach, its more about knowing how to find information then memorize crap.

what do you teach?

Gibson486

Lifer
what?? Are you kidding? is this that engineering probability class? pfff.....you only need to know like 10% of that material to move on. All communications classes afterwards barely touch upon it too. if anything, Linear Systems is much more important.

Random Variable

Lifer
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Can't you (possibly anonymously) notify the prof.? You don't want people to cheat through life like that. Especially something that's related to their majors.

It was a graudate class.

RESmonkey

Diamond Member
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Can't you (possibly anonymously) notify the prof.? You don't want people to cheat through life like that. Especially something that's related to their majors.

It was a graudate class.

? How's that different from any class with a teacher? (sorry, I enter college this fall...)

What class?

Random Variable

Lifer
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Can't you (possibly anonymously) notify the prof.? You don't want people to cheat through life like that. Especially something that's related to their majors.

It was a graudate class.

? How's that different from any class with a teacher? (sorry, I enter college this fall...)

Well, first of all it's "graduate" not "graudate."

It's a class for students seeking their masters degree.

ShockwaveVT

Senior member
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Can't you (possibly anonymously) notify the prof.? You don't want people to cheat through life like that. Especially something that's related to their majors.

It was a graudate class.

Even more so than undergrad courses, Graduate classes are what you make them.
Who cares what the other students are doing? You are in grad school for your sake, to learn about a subject you enjoy. Congrats on wasting time & money (unless you happened to beat the refund date, in that case, congrats on wasting time)

Good luck finding a different professor next semester.

Gibson486

Lifer
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Can't you (possibly anonymously) notify the prof.? You don't want people to cheat through life like that. Especially something that's related to their majors.

It was a graudate class.

? How's that different from any class with a teacher? (sorry, I enter college this fall...)

because when you get to the real world, you never know the answers. No class or book can fully perpare you. yes, it can teach you the basics, but the basics are barely a foundation. This is why gpa is irrelevant after your first job. You are only prepared for the most basics tasks...I mean, it's great that you can mathematically prove white noise is linear spectral density, but how does knowing that proof really help you solve a problem?

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