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I don't understand why some of you like Mozilla so much

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I can justify my use of opera because it makes me a LOT more productive on the intarweb. embedded searching on the address bar, lightning quick document caches, presentation mode, mouse navigation, awesome IMAP support in m2, intuitive keyboard shortcuts, customized skins for more screen real estate, complete interface control, f4 popup menu, f12 quick preference menu....I could go on and on and on.
 
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: Kev
CrazyBrowser > Mozilla

A front end for IE.

It has all those features you guys keep harping on about Mozilla, except mouse gestures (what are those?).

And as little added advantage it works on every web site on the internet
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Mouse gestures is just rightclicking and moving the mouse a very short distance to do things like open new windows, go forwards and backwards, refresh, etc....


But you still haven't addressed the fact that MS gave IE more rights than the user and it'll do fscking anything the webpage tells it to. Including changing registry keys.
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eh, i just use ad-aware, those registry keys aren't harmful
 
Originally posted by: Wingznut
It's a lot slower than IE... And many times it just doesn't work right.

Exhibit A

What's the point of a browser, if you can't even read the page???
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Works fine for me (using mozilla). IE wouldn't load all of the images if I were to try it.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
The day Mozilla

- works fully with my Intellimouse Explorer functions
- loads faster initially
- is supported by the Yahoo Companion bar

I will switch. Until then, popup stopping by itself is not enough to make me switch. Tabbed browsing does not beat ALT-TAB.

BTW, since when do ATOTers take on admittedly buggy products? If MS did this with their free IE browser, you guys would be all over them. Some people just like to be different...
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Use Phoenix, it doesn't have the initial load time

amish
 
Originally posted by: rh71
The day Mozilla

- works fully with my Intellimouse Explorer functions
- loads faster initially
- is supported by the Yahoo Companion bar

I will switch. Until then, popup stopping by itself is not enough to make me switch. Tabbed browsing does not beat ALT-TAB.

BTW, since when do ATOTers take on admittedly buggy products? If MS did this with their free IE browser, you guys would be all over them. Some people just like to be different...
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It does support all of you IM Explorer functions. Even on other os's.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
The day Mozilla

- works fully with my Intellimouse Explorer functions
- loads faster initially
- is supported by the Yahoo Companion bar

I will switch. Until then, popup stopping by itself is not enough to make me switch. Tabbed browsing does not beat ALT-TAB.

BTW, since when do ATOTers take on admittedly buggy products? If MS did this with their free IE browser, you guys would be all over them. Some people just like to be different...
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I dunno about you, but my intellimouse works just fine with Mozilla. Try going into the Intellimouse controls and setting each button to a specific function for mozilla.exe. This'll leave your globals alone but make Moz work fine. And don't tell me that it's too much effort; it takes 1 minute.

Mozilla loads in about 3 seconds on my system, and I have quickload disabled. When's the last time you used Moz?

Yahoo... companion... what? What exactly does that thing do?
 
Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: rh71
The day Mozilla

- works fully with my Intellimouse Explorer functions
- loads faster initially
- is supported by the Yahoo Companion bar

I will switch. Until then, popup stopping by itself is not enough to make me switch. Tabbed browsing does not beat ALT-TAB.

BTW, since when do ATOTers take on admittedly buggy products? If MS did this with their free IE browser, you guys would be all over them. Some people just like to be different...
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I dunno about you, but my intellimouse works just fine with Mozilla. Try going into the Intellimouse controls and setting each button to a specific function for mozilla.exe. This'll leave your globals alone but make Moz work fine. And don't tell me that it's too much effort; it takes 1 minute.

Mozilla loads in about 3 seconds on my system, and I have quickload disabled. When's the last time you used Moz?

Yahoo... companion... what? What exactly does that thing do?
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I think that is yahoo spyware for ignorant people..... 😀

Moz loads faster than IE on my sys, my intellimouse explorer 3.0 works great with it (windows OR linux) and the yahoo companion thing is no reason not to switch... of course, if you switch now, you'll automatically hate it anyway, so why do we bother?
 
ESPN rendered just fine in Moz 1.3.1 and with pipelining, it is faster for intarweb than IE by far.

Plus I like tabbed browsing and the concept of supporting open source projects that have people working on it consistently. My address bar in Mozilla searches Google by default.
 
I use both browsers, specifically IE mostly just for ESPN. I have an Insider subscription, and the ESPNMotion absolutely refuses to work with Firebird, same with PTI. There is a form however on ESPN's website where you can write in saying that you want support for alternate browsers other than IE6 for ESPN's more advanced pages. I've written in, and anybody else who wishes to do so should do the same.
 
I prefer Firebird over Mozilla. Loads way faster, has highly customizable tool bars, awesome pop-up blocker, and it has a google search bar built in.
 
Originally posted by: ComputerMonkey
I prefer Firebird over Mozilla. Loads way faster, has highly customizable tool bars, awesome pop-up blocker, and it has a google search bar built in.
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Mozilla is over anyway. They will be moving ahead with Firebird.
 
Because I can have all sorts of things in Mozilla (tabbed browsing, popup killing, and other things) that require memory-eating plugins for IE that aren't integrated as well. I keep Moz running most of the time (benefits of having 512MB+ of RAM), so the startup time isn't an issue.
 
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Imported
What's with all the "loads faster" stuff.. MY IE loads the instant I click the button.. :\
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Loads web pages faster.
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Take the AnandTech forum pages for an example. Mozilla displays them as they load, while IE waits to load the entire thing before trying to render it (that's due to the stupid sidebar ad that requires a table layout, and IE is slow with table layout rendering).
 
Originally posted by: jliechty
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Imported
What's with all the "loads faster" stuff.. MY IE loads the instant I click the button.. :\
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Loads web pages faster.
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Take the AnandTech forum pages for an example. Mozilla displays them as they load, while IE waits to load the entire thing before trying to render it (that's due to the stupid sidebar ad that requires a table layout, and IE is slow with table layout rendering).
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I see.. I'll have to try it out soon.
 
Originally posted by: OulOat
Originally posted by: sandorski
Mozilla ownz IE. Who has the link of that webpage that doesn't work in IE?
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Can't find it anymore, but are you talking about that page with a few lines of code that completely crashes IE?

I mainly still use IE, but Mozilla Firebird is good for surfing sites with a lot of popups. Also, I'm trying to get Firebird to work with my Tablet PC, but it freaking crashes every 5 sites or so. Firebird rocks, but it's still in developments stages and have a lot of bugs.
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Ya, that's the one.
 
Originally posted by: aswedc
Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
I disagree, I use to design webpages and it always sucked trying to get them to work properly with browsers other then IE. Opera and Mozilla would always run into problems rendering the page right even though IE worked fine. The extra work slowed us down so eventually we just stopped designing for other browsers since 95% were using IE anyways.
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You either suck or are trying to put all sorts of crazy proprietary DHTML stuff on your page that no one cares about anyway. I write my pages once and nine times out of ten they display correctly in all three major browsers the first time. With the most recent versions of Mozilla and Opera its harder to break a page than to make one that looks perfect if you're writing using proper HTML, CSS, and W3C DOM
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I concur with this. I can make them look good in either browser with out to much effort.
 
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: ComputerMonkey
I prefer Firebird over Mozilla. Loads way faster, has highly customizable tool bars, awesome pop-up blocker, and it has a google search bar built in.
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Mozilla is over anyway. They will be moving ahead with Firebird.
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Firebird owns 🙂
 
I use Mozilla, don't miss IE at all. The only thing IE does better is the Favorites, you can't delete or auto sort bookmarks from Mozilla's dropdown. Mozilla is faster and doesn't require 10 third party utilities to have good functionality.
 
Originally posted by: jaeger66
I use Mozilla, don't miss IE at all. The only thing IE does better is the Favorites, you can't delete or auto sort bookmarks from Mozilla's dropdown. Mozilla is faster and doesn't require 10 third party utilities to have good functionality.
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Hey, you can do some of that in Firebird (Phoenix) 😀

amish
 
Firebird is impressively fast for me. I liked the tabbed viewing because it doesn't clutter your taskbar. I know XP makes an attempt to aggregate like windows into a single taskbar entry, but the tabbed windows is still quicker/easier, imo.
 
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