I don't like Windows 7 Pro 64bit So Far... It's lousy

[ControlD]

Still, the world's biggest problem is the inability to watch youtube videos. Everytime after a restart I can't view youtube videos because the stupid Adobe Flasher player keeps locking up. This only happens within Firefox browser. I didn't have this issue with Internet Explorer... I had this exact same problem with another system at my family's place. The PC is 3~ 4 years newer than mine, but had EXACT SAME CRAP PROBLEM with flash player crashing when going to youtube.




cheez

Have you considered using Chrome or Chromium (is that available for Windows? Not sure, I use it under Linux) to watch Youtube videos? I haven't had any issues with Chrome and Youtube under any of the operating systems I currently use. Firefox has some annoying issues under Linux which is what I primarily run so I switched to Chromium and it works quite well assuming you can live with the Chrome-like interface.

 

[cheez]

Have you considered using Chrome or Chromium (is that available for Windows? Not sure, I use it under Linux) to watch Youtube videos? I haven't had any issues with Chrome and Youtube under any of the operating systems I currently use. Firefox has some annoying issues under Linux which is what I primarily run so I switched to Chromium and it works quite well assuming you can live with the Chrome-like interface.

I will think about it. The last time I used Chrome was back 3 or so years ago.... somethings I liked, some not. Thanks Dave.


cheez

 

[Zxian]

Are you by any chance using DPI scaling? That's been known to cause some strange artifacting with text on screen. Set it back to 100% and don't bother with 125 or 150. If you're using a reasonable monitor and screen resolution, you shouldn't need it.

Your issue with the popping seems to point the finger at your main issue - you're using outdated software. I have installed Windows 7 on MANY systems, and installed MPC-HC (the latest version) on almost all of those. I have never had an issue with random pops or clicks unless there was an underlying driver or hardware issue.

I had Windows 7 installed on my previous system - a Q6700 based system on a P5B Premium motherboard. I didn't have any serious issues that prevented me from using the system. Your issues are caused by your unfamiliarity with Windows7 (it is a big step from XP/2003) and your lack of willingness to change your usage habits.

 

[SimMike2]

I am kind of a family IT tech specialist. Since most of my family have switched to Windows 7, I rarely (as in never) get called up because their computer is acting funny. Windows 7 is rock solid. In fact I think MS is disappointed that they did such a good job with Windows7. Can't say the same thing about any previous version of Windows.

 

[reallyscrued]

Posting in another cheez thread.

I am talking about Server 2003, not 2008.

Server 2008 sucks. It won't take my video card driver and some other vital ones.

If your video drivers work for Win7 x64, the exact same drivers work for 2008. Better luck next time.

It's about 340 times faster than Windows XP in comparison.

You can't be more wrong about this, it's been proven that it's 350 times faster. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and no one should listen to you.

 

[blankslate]

This is for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMLrA_0O5I


Chez.


Just about every OS issue I've had since Win v6.x.x.. either incompatible software or drivers

 

[vailr]

all the rest is pretty old including my video card (ATi x1950xtx which is also 7 yrs old).

Your Windows 7 video problem is due to using an obsolete video card.
Do yourself a huge favor and replace it with something manufactured at least since the 2008 elections, when your hero Obama was first elected president.

 

[Zorander]

I tried looking for the latest driver for the X1950 series card and here is what AMD says:

Note: AMD’s DirectX 9 ATI Radeon graphics accelerators are not officially supported under Windows 7. If the user chooses to, they can install the ATI Catalyst Windows Vista graphics driver under Windows 7. Please be aware that none of the new Windows 7 graphics driver (WDDM 1.1) features are supported (as the Windows Vista level graphics driver is limited to WDDM 1.0 level support).

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownlo...px?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English


Your (video) problems clearly stem from using an unsupported card with unsupported driver in Windows 7.

 

[gevorg]

$62,000 Coconut-Audio White Night Power 2m & 5m power cords received

🙄

 

[mikeymikec]

I can do almost nothing with this setup...

- Can't display texts properly (video playback is fine, sharp and crisp just like from Server 2003)

- Can't watch youtube videos

- Random static / pop noise after closing MPC and browse explorer window

- Can't run uTorrent right, meaning can't start once the system has been rebooted

- Reserved for more complaints

Now, try thinking for a moment. If the vast majority of Windows 7 users could not watch YT clips, view text properly, had random noises coming frmo their computer unexpectedly, does it seem likely that they would still use it / think that it is a decent version of Windows? Rhetorical question. There really is no room for debate here.

I for one would have gone straight back to XP/Vista if I had such issues with Windows 7 (and couldn't resolve them satisfactorily), and furthermore I would be inundated with customers with similar issues. As it is, I am not and such issues are as rare on Win7 as they were on Vista or XP.

I just don't understand how people think the way you do. There's a product being used by millions of people, but because you're having issues with it, your experience must somehow be definitive and constitute enough evidence to label the OS to be at fault rather than something wrong with your setup.

I read a later post of yours talking about Flash locking up on a regular basis. There are some weird Firefox/Flash issues knocking around (not OS version specific), my wife for example on Vista 64 has to run an old version of Flash in order for it to work stably. Admittedly her problems were with 11.3 and 11.4 and she had to run 11.1 IIRC, but she freaks out if I go anywhere her machine, so I guess I can't try a newer version of Flash 🙂

I see a lot of Firefox users in my line of work, and my wife's setup is the only one I've seen with problems. There are quite a few forum threads about FF/Flash problems on the Internet though.

So it is the morons at Firefox (programmers) that's screwing up. They don't know how to make their own browser to work with Adobe Flash player.... This is beyond morons... pure retards.

I thought you said you were skilled in complaining... do you mean "skilled at complaining but not actually achieving anything in the process"? Because telling a community that their product is rubbish and "oh btw can you help me" isn't going to get you very far. I think you mean "skilled at whining".

 

[Berryracer]

Now, try thinking for a moment. If the vast majority of Windows 7 users could not watch YT clips, view text properly, had random noises coming frmo their computer unexpectedly, does it seem likely that they would still use it / think that it is a decent version of Windows? Rhetorical question. There really is no room for debate here.

I for one would have gone straight back to XP/Vista if I had such issues with Windows 7 (and couldn't resolve them satisfactorily), and furthermore I would be inundated with customers with similar issues. As it is, I am not and such issues are as rare on Win7 as they were on Vista or XP.

I just don't understand how people think the way you do. There's a product being used by millions of people, but because you're having issues with it, your experience must somehow be definitive and constitute enough evidence to label the OS to be at fault rather than something wrong with your setup.

I read a later post of yours talking about Flash locking up on a regular basis. There are some weird Firefox/Flash issues knocking around (not OS version specific), my wife for example on Vista 64 has to run an old version of Flash in order for it to work stably. Admittedly her problems were with 11.3 and 11.4 and she had to run 11.1 IIRC, but she freaks out if I go anywhere her machine, so I guess I can't try a newer version of Flash 🙂

I see a lot of Firefox users in my line of work, and my wife's setup is the only one I've seen with problems. There are quite a few forum threads about FF/Flash problems on the Internet though.



I thought you said you were skilled in complaining... do you mean "skilled at complaining but not actually achieving anything in the process"? Because telling a community that their product is rubbish and "oh btw can you help me" isn't going to get you very far. I think you mean "skilled at whining".

mikey pwnts cheez

 

[WelshBloke]

... I'm pro. I know my stuff.
...

Lol. 😀

No.

This thread is hilarious though, I'm going to search his previous threads to see if they are up to the same quality.

Edit: WooooooHoooooooo! I'm going to need some time for this. Roll on some quite night shifts.

Also this is your third thead on the same subject.

 

[smitbret]

I've been trying out the Windows 7 Pro x64. Used Windows Server 2003 previously.

Well the user interface in desktop looks pretty. But I don't care. All that will do is suck up more system juice.

I suppose this has a bit better memory management over the King Kong champion Windows Server 2003. But I didn't notice speed difference. And network file transfer speed is about the same. Server 2003 is twice as fast as Windows XP in this regard.

Windows 7 is flakey, or hiccups easily when running my programs, i.e. video playback software made by russian scientists. For example, I start the video (1080i MPEG2-TS) and the first frame of the video displays and will not move on to next frame. The sound continues to play fine. I have to quit the playback and play again and again and again until it works. This is so [lame]...

uTorrent program only works if you reinstall. The next time you try to start uTorrent again it won't start.... You have to reinstall the damn thing again. And it takes a long time for the user interface to pop up. It's blazing fast with Server 2003. Does Win7 have DEP? Anyways, it's slow as dog. 😀

The BIGGEST problem with Windows 7 is the text quality in the display. The pixels are not lining up so the texts looks [bad]. Sometimes I could hardly identify what the hell the character is. I have to like stare at it for a minute to figure it out and make guess. Windows Server 2003 in comparison, is razor sharp, clearly defined, dot by dot, perfectly lined up pixels. It runs in 1:1 pixel mapping btw. The texts are so sharp it's like poking my eyeballs with a needle.


It's a downgrade going from Server 2003 32bit to Windows 7 64.

There are a lot of other issues with Windows 7 that I didn't cover here. If I mention them, it will take up over 10 pages.... don't have time to post all that [stuff].


^_^


cheez

No profanity in the technical forums
-ViRGE

You should just learn Linux. It's Open Source so a "Power User" like yourself can just go ahead and fix the problems yourself.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

x1950?

What video interconnect are you pretending you're using? The pixel mapping thing with your HDTV would be to be expected if you were using VGA input and hadn't calibrated it properly.

Assuming the VGA signal is set to the native res., the LCD display should have an auto-adjust that will work 99.9% of the time.

But a failing video card will send a "dirty" signal that the monitor can't always calibrate itself to. I've seen it happen more than once. VGA to LCD displays in general are a bad idea.

As far as your rampant piracy goes. (Russian engineers? Hell, I don't even trust Kaspersky.) You might also need to either upgrade to the latest uTorrent version, or run it in XP compatibility mode w/ admin rights. (In order to get it to launch when the computer boots.)

The "pops/static synced with video events" thing troubled me on and off for years. It usually was easily traceable to cheap cabling or crappy onboard sound cards picking up EMI from my video card. Different video cards produced varying amounts of problem. (Onboard video usually worked fine with onboard audio, but start dropping in add-in cards, and you create a problem. The spaghetti mess behind the computer didn't help either.) I'd "fix" it only to cause a problem when I added/modified another component or moved my equipment. And no, I checked with a tuner - it wasn't 60Hz hum.

I solved it permanently by getting speakers that had an optical input. Motherboard S/PDIF to Speakers = $10 cable from Amazon, no susceptibility to EMI.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'll vouch that Firefox and Flash are a terrible combo. Wouldn't blame the OS though.

 

[cheez]

Are you by any chance using DPI scaling? That's been known to cause some strange artifacting with text on screen. Set it back to 100% and don't bother with 125 or 150. If you're using a reasonable monitor and screen resolution, you shouldn't need it.

I don't use DPI scaling. It's all default, didn't touch no nothing. The pixels don't appear correctly. It's the Windows 7 doesn't have support for my common hardware which is a disappointment.

Your issue with the popping seems to point the finger at your main issue - you're using outdated software. I have installed Windows 7 on MANY systems, and installed MPC-HC (the latest version) on almost all of those. I have never had an issue with random pops or clicks unless there was an underlying driver or hardware issue.

The latest version MPC is no good. It doesn't support my hardware properly. My systems goes ill with it when playing videos. Have to use version 680 which is about good... a year old. Version 680 stopped the popping static sound.

Your issues are caused by your unfamiliarity with Windows7 (it is a big step from XP/2003) and your lack of willingness to change your usage habits.

What do you mean by that? Usage habits? May I ask you to elaborate please? ^_^

Posting in another cheez thread.

This is another famous cheez threads. You are following me around because I am popular. A lot of folks tend to do that because they want some fun. Too boring without me in forum. 😉

If your video drivers work for Win7 x64, the exact same drivers work for 2008. Better luck next time.

I have tried all sorts of drivers to try to make Server 2008 R2 to work, but I don't recall trying out video driver for Win7 x64. Anyways, it had a number of driver issues and incompatibilities and wasn't worth the effort. Server 2003 works perfectly, and fast as xxxxxxxxxxxx.

You can't be more wrong about this, it's been proven that it's 350 times faster. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and no one should listen to you.

I know what I am talking about. It all comes from the years of user experience. If you didn't know there is a huge difference in overall speed in operation between Server 2003 and XP, you are newb. This isn't a surprise because I already knew. 😀

Your Windows 7 video problem is due to using an obsolete video card.

I am not ditching my $500+ card. Most importantly, it gives very good PQ in 2D, both text and videos. I am planning to watercool this babe later with some good pampering.

Do yourself a huge favor and replace it with something manufactured at least since the 2008 elections, when your hero Obama was first elected president.

Obama isn't my hero. I don't support him. I am REPUBLICAN, omg. 😀 BUSH! BUSH! WOO HOO!~


cheez

 

[Zorander]

I am not ditching my $500+ card. Most importantly, it gives very good PQ in 2D, both text and videos. I am planning to watercool this babe later with some good pampering.

Your card is worthless now. It's not supported even by a 4-year-old OS and missing features common even on today's IGPs. The PQ argument is moot as you're on DVI connection.

I think everyone's had their say. You're welcome to stay in the past or move on.

 

[Lifted]

This thread is hilarious though, I'm going to search his previous threads to see if they are up to the same quality.

This is the same poster who made a 10 zillion post thread about how acoustically awesome his $5,000 mini-to-mini audio cable was when connected from his sound card to his $200 speakers. 😀

His threads are good for a chuckle. I'm guessing it's one of the mods alt accounts as anyone else would have been smacked around some time ago.

 

[cheez]

I tried looking for the latest driver for the X1950 series card and here is what AMD says:

Note: AMD’s DirectX 9 ATI Radeon graphics accelerators are not officially supported under Windows 7. If the user chooses to, they can install the ATI Catalyst Windows Vista graphics driver under Windows 7. Please be aware that none of the new Windows 7 graphics driver (WDDM 1.1) features are supported (as the Windows Vista level graphics driver is limited to WDDM 1.0 level support).

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownlo...px?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English


Your (video) problems clearly stem from using an unsupported card with unsupported driver in Windows 7.

Thanks, but I am afraid the Vista driver could cause other problems in graphics. I don't need more headaches. I think I'll stick with lousy texts I've got with current setup. Keep in mind, this is only one of the many many problems (can't count) I have.

🙄

😀

Now, try thinking for a moment. If the vast majority of Windows 7 users could not watch YT clips

This has already been addressed. Do you not read other posts before you post?

can't

view text properly, had random noises coming frmo their computer unexpectedly, does it seem likely that they would still use it / think that it is a decent version of Windows? Rhetorical question. There really is no room for debate here.

That shows Windows 7 poor in hardware compatibility. Not supporting a major brand such as ATi with X1900 series models is unacceptable.

The noise pops has already been addressed. Do you not read other posts? 😀

I just don't understand how people think the way you do. There's a product being used by millions of people, but because you're having issues with it, your experience must somehow be definitive and constitute enough evidence to label the OS to be at fault rather than something wrong with your setup.

I have not made an official statement saying Windows 7 sucks, yet. I might make an official after I make some more complaints about Windows 7. There is an old thread titled "Why Windows 7 is bad". I am going to update that shortly.

I read a later post of yours talking about Flash locking up on a regular basis. There are some weird Firefox/Flash issues knocking around (not OS version specific), my wife for example on Vista 64 has to run an old version of Flash in order for it to work stably. Admittedly her problems were with 11.3 and 11.4 and she had to run 11.1 IIRC, but she freaks out if I go anywhere her machine, so I guess I can't try a newer version of Flash 🙂

It's the Mozilla programmer idiots that screwed up. They don't know how to write their own program to work with Adobe Flasher player. This isn't machine specific, it's just plain programming garbage.

I see a lot of Firefox users in my line of work, and my wife's setup is the only one I've seen with problems. There are quite a few forum threads about FF/Flash problems on the Internet though.

Mozilla Firefox sucks turd. I am going to officially stop using it. Have had enough of crap.

I thought you said you were skilled in complaining... do you mean "skilled at complaining but not actually achieving anything in the process"?

I have. Made some progress using my awesome knowledge, but there are plenty other problems that just can't be solved due to the fault the engineers designed the OS.

Because telling a community that their product is rubbish and "oh btw can you help me" isn't going to get you very far. I think you mean "skilled at whining".

That is kind of correct. I do like whining.


cheez

 

[mikeymikec]

That shows Windows 7 poor in hardware compatibility. Not supporting a major brand such as ATi with X1900 series models is unacceptable.

Microsoft does not support your video card (or any for that matter). If anyone should be supporting it, it is the manufacturer of the graphics card / GPU. Microsoft comes up with driver frameworks that hardware manufacturers need to follow to stand a good chance of their hardware working on MS operating systems as expected.

After <20 seconds of googling, look what I found:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_X1000_Series

"ATI does not provide official support for any X1000 series cards for Windows 7.[1]"

I have not made an official statement saying Windows 7 sucks, yet. I might make an official after I make some more complaints about Windows 7. There is an old thread titled "Why Windows 7 is bad". I am going to update that shortly.

I'm sure the rest of their world are on the edge of their seats waiting for your "official statement"! As for me, you started a thread with the title along the lines of Win7 being lousy, hence my criticisms.

It's the Mozilla programmer idiots that screwed up. They don't know how to write their own program to work with Adobe Flasher player. This isn't machine specific, it's just plain programming garbage.

Mozilla doesn't develop the Flash plug-in, Adobe does.

I'll eagerly await your next thread, probably something along the lines of "Android phones are rubbish because the Facebook app doesn't work properly on my phone!".

 

[cheez]

mikey pwnts cheez

He pwned nothing. Some of his assumptions were incorrect. I had to fix it for him. Thanks for the picture though. I like it.^_^

Lol. 😀

No.

Yes. I'm pro. I know stuff.

This thread is hilarious though, I'm going to search his previous threads to see if they are up to the same quality.

Edit: WooooooHoooooooo! I'm going to need some time for this. Roll on some quite night shifts.

Glad to hear you are enjoying it. This thread is nothing... when you do a search for threads created by name, look for ones posted last year. Much more fun. You will need pop corn for this as it takes time.

Also this is your third thead on the same subject.

Subject maybe somewhat similar but they contain different information, meaning wide variety of complaints. They have been clearly documented. If you jam all that into one thread it will explode and nobody will be able to read all because due to huge amount of content. Each thread states what problems Windows 7 has. It's known issue too.

x1950?

What video interconnect are you pretending you're using? The pixel mapping thing with your HDTV would be to be expected if you were using VGA input and hadn't calibrated it properly.

I don't pretend. I use BetterCable DVI-D cable to run from vid card to the DVI-D input of the TV. I don't use VGA. That's for the newbies. I am extremely advanced, complex. And yes my TV is 1:1 pixel capable, so is my vid card. The problem is the Windows 7 has poor programming. 😉

Assuming the VGA signal is set to the native res., the LCD display should have an auto-adjust that will work 99.9% of the time.

Like I said, VGA connection is for the sissies. It's low standard. I am a high standard, use DVI-D. And it's plasma, not LCD.

But a failing video card will send a "dirty" signal that the monitor can't always calibrate itself to. I've seen it happen more than once. VGA to LCD displays in general are a bad idea.

I knew this back in year 2002. Plenty of experience. I don't use VGA. it's low standard, due to low standard PQ and TQ.

As far as your rampant piracy goes. (Russian engineers? Hell, I don't even trust Kaspersky.)

It's not piracy. I paid a lot of money for this software. It's engineered by russian scientists 🙂D), formerly, German. Elecard MPEG Player, the best player in the world. VLC and MPC are all fail. They can't come remotely close.

You might also need to either upgrade to the latest uTorrent version, or run it in XP compatibility mode w/ admin rights. (In order to get it to launch when the computer boots.)

Don't you read other posts before you comment? The problem started with the latest version uTorrent. After a few days it fixed itself. The version is 3.3 IIRC. I don't like the irregularities... programming issue.

This idea of "Run as admin" and "Run in XP compatibility mode" never works for a lot of users. It's just wrong speculation. Quit spamming.

The "pops/static synced with video events" thing troubled me on and off for years. It usually was easily traceable to cheap cabling or crappy onboard sound cards picking up EMI from my video card. Different video cards produced varying amounts of problem. (Onboard video usually worked fine with onboard audio, but start dropping in add-in cards, and you create a problem.

That issue is found in my old Sound Blaster Live card (over 12 years old). Perhaps the capacitors are going hairy.

But popping sound with my current setup is Windows problem. Like I said before many times, the popping is gone since I updated the MPC to 680.

The spaghetti mess behind the computer didn't help either.) I'd "fix" it only to cause a problem when I added/modified another component or moved my equipment. And no, I checked with a tuner - it wasn't 60Hz hum.

I don't eat at my HTPC. HTPC is treated with respect. I keep things clean, debris-free. No bodily fluids either.

I solved it permanently by getting speakers that had an optical input. Motherboard S/PDIF to Speakers = $10 cable from Amazon, no susceptibility to EMI.

SPDIF caused more noise / static / bigger pops when I was using Macbook Pro to external DAC. SPDIF doesn't mean jack. It can also have negative effect in SQ compared to USB or digital coax. Man, like I said, I'm pro. I know all this.😉


cheez

 

[cheez]

Mozilla doesn't develop the Flash plug-in, Adobe does.

I'll eagerly await your next thread, probably something along the lines of "Android phones are rubbish because the Facebook app doesn't work properly on my phone!".

That's why I'm saying, Mozilla doesn't know how to work with Adobe. hence both Flash player and firefox collide. Disaster. This flash crash problem has been seen so many times not only my PC. Users in anandtech reported this problem as well.

NO MORE FIREFOX. OFFICIAL OF THE OFFICIAL.

😀


cheez

 

[WelshBloke]

...Yes. I'm pro. I know stuff...

But not, apparently, how to install utorrent or plug your PC into your TV correctly. 😵

...Glad to hear you are enjoying it. This thread is nothing... when you do a search for threads created by name, look for ones posted last year. Much more fun. You will need pop corn for this as it takes time...

This is truth. Theres a lot to cover and most of it is either 😵 or 😱 or 🙄 but mostly

 

[cheez]

But not, apparently, how to install utorrent or plug your PC into your TV correctly. 😵

I know how to hook up my PC and TV. The problem started since using Windows 7.

It takes no knowledge to install uTorrent. Even a 5 year old kid knows how to install it.

😀

This is truth. Theres a lot to cover and most of it is either 😵 or 😱 or 🙄 but mostly

lol

🙂

 

[Zxian]

Your previously $500 video card is outperformed by a $60 card today. 5 years is a very long time for hardware, and your card isn't supported. Others have said it before, and I'll say it again - it's not Microsoft's fault you are using unsupported hardware. You are making the choice not to update your hardware.

Your problem with MPC-HC isn't that the software doesn't support your hardware - it's that your drivers are unsupported under Windows7. Forget everything else. You cannot expect software to work properly unless the hardware is supported. Until you realize this simple fact, the entire thread is pointless.