I don't like Windows 7 Pro 64bit So Far... It's lousy

[Zargon]

Me trolling? Nope. I am an honest philosopher. I see problems I will post. I don't hide problems like some people do.

And user error? Wanna elaborate on that.


cheez

sure, I used uTorrent on 7 for years with the issue you are having never happening. ever. Now I have it running on Server 08 R2 which is 'win 7 server' and dont have this issue


it probably needs to be 'run as admin'

are you doing that?



the GPU working with Win 7 coul be half your issues, spend 20 bucks and get sometihng 18times as fast


also flash sucks and no you cant run an older version, you have to stay pretty recent or half the stuff wont work at all


the OS is not making weird audio pops, check your connections.



the text is probably because your GPU sucks and cant support aero/cleartype properly.

 

[cheez]

sure, I used uTorrent on 7 for years with the issue you are having never happening. ever. Now I have it running on Server 08 R2 which is 'win 7 server' and dont have this issue

it probably needs to be 'run as admin'

I am in Administrator account. So I don't see why I would need to run it as admin when I'm already admin... just saying

are you doing that?

Yup...

What da heck did you do with uTorrent to run reliably on your Win7 system? In my case, it seems Windows is preventing from uTorrent apps to start. I double-click on it, nothing happens. No utorrent process shows in Task Manager. I thought this was only the issue with Server operating systems, not average Joe OS like Win7 ha ha...

the GPU working with Win 7 coul be half your issues, spend 20 bucks and get sometihng 18times as fast

You won't find any new $20 card beating my $500+ Radeon 1950XTX card in any category other than the support for newer Direct X components. My card stays. It has better 2D quality too (both texts and video playback).

also flash sucks and no you cant run an older version, you have to stay pretty recent or half the stuff wont work at all

If Flash sucks what do you recommend then? Advise?

the OS is not making weird audio pops, check your connections.

Connections were already checked. Popping continued until I restart the damn PC. It's not the connections. It's Windows going haywire woooo weeee!~

the text is probably because your GPU sucks and cant support aero/cleartype properly.

THIS, actually might make sense to me. If it can't support something or has compatibility issue with, can cause texts to show wrongly. You could be right on this one.


Any more suggestions? Looks like I may have to ditch the Windows 7 and go back to Server 2003. How do I go about getting Server 2003 to access 3TB internal drive?


cheez

 

[amenx]

How do I go about getting Server 2003 to access 3TB internal drive?

Switch to 7.

 

[Zor Prime]

1) your hardware sucks
or
2) you fail at life

Pick one, because it's one or the other.

 

[cheez]

Switch to 7.

I am already on 7. And having all sorts of problems. The problems are all scattered over now I'm going dizzy.


I am thinking. Would SATA-to-USB adapter or USB hard drive enclosure work? Purchase one, and get the 3TB hooked up. I don't know for sure if this will work... I have an external 3TB USB hard drive and works fine with Server 2003 which is why I'm asking.


cheez

 

[seepy83]

I am in Administrator account. So I don't see why I would need to run it as admin when I'm already admin... just saying

Even when you're logged in with an Administrator account, there are many situations where you need to use the "Run As..." option to make sure that the application executes with administrator privileges. Despite what you may believe, it's an improvement over the way things used to work. If you're as much of a power user as you claim to be, then you would already know this.

This thread sucks.

 

[cheez]

1) your hardware sucks
or
2) you fail at life

Pick one, because it's one or the other.

I know for certain it's not 2).

it's neither. I believe my hardware rules, just a little old. They don't break, so why should I fix it / replace it? You've got money for that?


cheez

 

[ControlD]

You won't find any new $20 card beating my $500+ Radeon 1950XTX card in any category other than the support for newer Direct X components. My card stays. It has better 2D quality too (both texts and video playback).

cheez

Is that video card AGP or PCIe? If it is AGP then I agree you would be better off sticking with it. Otherwise I am pretty sure you are on the legacy driver at this point and chances of seeing any real improvements with Windows 7 are probably right about 0%. There might be some custom drivers available but that is a different set of headaches. Honestly I would say you got your money's worth out of that card and it is probably time to move on. I think in the end you will be happier with Win7 compared to 2003.

 

[cheez]

Even when you're logged in with an Administrator account, there are many situations where you need to use the "Run As..." option to make sure that the application executes with administrator privileges. Despite what you may believe, it's an improvement over the way things used to work. If you're as much of a power user as you claim to be, then you would already know this.

This thread sucks.

I am not logged on as user with administrative privilege. I logged on as "administrator", a local admin account. Still need to "Run As..."? Are ya kidding me. Oh well I will try it anyway when I get home and let you know.

Look, I'm pro. I know my stuff.

This thread doesn't suck. I reported the problems and I want them fixed. How is this suck?


cheez

 

[cheez]

Is that video card AGP or PCIe? If it is AGP then I agree you would be better off sticking with it. Otherwise I am pretty sure you are on the legacy driver at this point and chances of seeing any real improvements with Windows 7 are probably right about 0%. There might be some custom drivers available but that is a different set of headaches. Honestly I would say you got your money's worth out of that card and it is probably time to move on. I think in the end you will be happier with Win7 compared to 2003.

It's PCIe. My video card wouldn't die either. it's made like tank. ATi really did good job building these what used to be top-of-the-line card. I had bad experience with cheaper models as they broke on me quite a few times. But this damn thing is a rock.... tank.

I don't want more headaches. ^_^ I've got enough headache already.

Thanks DaveStall. Your posts have been helpful. You helped me understand better about legacy drivers and support / compatibility concerns.


I'm gonna get the USB hard drive enclosure for this 3TB drive and hope this will work with Server 2003. Gonna go back to Server 2003 OS. I have no issues with this OS both in terms of compatibility and lightning speed.


cheez

 

[Zargon]

I am in Administrator account. So I don't see why I would need to run it as admin when I'm already admin... just saying

yeah not the same thing anymore sorry!

new user security deal to protect morons from themselves

What da heck did you do with uTorrent to run reliably on your Win7 system? In my case, it seems Windows is preventing from uTorrent apps to start. I double-click on it, nothing happens. No utorrent process shows in Task Manager. I thought this was only the issue with Server operating systems, not average Joe OS like Win7 ha ha...

right click run as admin

what version are you running?

You won't find any new $20 card beating my $500+ Radeon 1950XTX card in any category other than the support for newer Direct X components. My card stays. It has better 2D quality too (both texts and video playback).

If Flash sucks what do you recommend then? Advise?

no advice, it just sucks and there is nothing we can do about it

get a new GPU, its all GPU accelerated now

Connections were already checked. Popping continued until I restart the damn PC. It's not the connections. It's Windows going haywire woooo weeee!~

yeah well with your issues its hard to beleive

 

[Zargon]

I'm gonna get the USB hard drive enclosure for this 3TB drive and hope this will work with Server 2003. Gonna go back to Server 2003 OS. I have no issues with this OS both in terms of compatibility and lightning speed.


cheez

please google this first.

its not going to work most likely

FAT32/NTFS has shitty large drive support anywyas, let alone in a 10 year old OS


and I have to LOL at 'lightning speed' out of that hardware

 

[cheez]

yeah not the same thing anymore sorry!

new user security deal to protect morons from themselves

right click run as admin YAY YAY YAY!~

Read post #34. Please do read other posts that are not directed at you... More info there bud. But like I've said, I will try run as admin anyway, and post the result.

what version are you running?

The latest uTorrent version out now.

get a new GPU, its all GPU accelerated now

I don't know how good those deliver in terms of video quality for video playback..... all that crammed in CPU die. There is a trade-off. I am not one of those average Joe users, sorry.

yeah well with your issues its hard to beleive

Well, believe it. Cause that's the first thing I checked. The connections are fine. It's the OS "hiccuping" with drivers.

please google this first.

its not going to work most likely

FAT32/NTFS has shitty large drive support anywyas, let alone in a 10 year old OS

Then how come my external USB 3TB drive works fine with Server 2003? Wouldn't USB hard drive enclosure work the same?

and I have to LOL at 'lightning speed' out of that hardware

Well, it is fast as MOFU. There are reasons why I used Server 2003 for such long time.


cheez

 

[seepy83]

I am not logged on as user with administrative privilege. I logged on as "administrator", a local admin account. Still need to "Run As..."? Are ya kidding me. Oh well I will try it anyway when I get home and let you know.

Look, I'm pro. I know my stuff.

You're not "pro". You actually have no idea what you're talking about. I don't care if you're logged on as "administrator" or any other account that's a member of the Local Administrators group. You have to use "Run as Administrator" to get an application to run with administrator privileges if the application doesn't run correctly without them. That's the way it is now. Either learn to use it, or, more preferably, replace the application with one that you don't need to run with escalated privileges.

But you can go ahead and keep yelling about how much you think Windows 7 sucks instead of learning how to use it.

 

[mvbighead]

Sorry, you can't say the OS sucks anymore than I can say Ubuntu 12.10 sucks because it doesn't like my Radeon 2400 card. If you have old hardware, you run the risk of compatibility issues when using a newer operating system.

I can assure you, Windows 7 Pro x64 runs flawlessly on my Dell Latitude E6420. On my system with the Radeon 2400 card, I have simply switched to a different Linux variant that is more tolerant of my Radeon card.

Win7Prox64 also runs flawlessly on my home built AMD x4 rig as well as my wife's Core 2 Duo rig. No audio pops, no slowness, no problems.

This thread is simply a product of a user running aged hardware and expecting the producers of the hardware to provide support for a 10+ year old platform. They don't, more often than not. At some point, they have to move their focus towards providing support for recent customers who have made recent purchases. They still supply you with the drivers that were made, but they stop focusing on fixing issues with new operating systems as it becomes too costly to support all of their products.

 

[cheez]

You're not "pro". You actually have no idea what you're talking about. I don't care if you're logged on as "administrator" or any other account that's a member of the Local Administrators group. You have to use "Run as Administrator" to get an application to run with administrator privileges if the application doesn't run correctly without them. That's the way it is now. Either learn to use it, or, more preferably, replace the application with one that you don't need to run with escalated privileges.

But you can go ahead and keep yelling about how much you think Windows 7 sucks instead of learning how to use it.

There are somethings restricted for the users in the administrator group. You don't get all rights to do what you need get done. Logging in as "administrator" (local administrator) there is difference. At least what I experienced with Win 7 with clients PC's at work. And yes I am pro. No denying on that.

Many fools don't even know how to login to Administrator. Some just don't bother with it and login as some user with admin rights. Logging in to administrator is sorely for those that know what they are doing, I.T. for example.

But like I said, I will try this "run as admin" thing to see if this is b.s. or not... I will report with my finding either tonight or tomorrow.



Just curious, where in my thread did I say Windows 7 sucks? I don't see it. Do a "Ctrl + F" and type "Windows 7 sucks". If you just type "sucks", you'll find I mentioned "Server 2008 sucks".

And since you brought up about Windows 7 being suck, there are plenty users that complain about it. Do a forum search for "Windows 7 sucks", "Windows 7 is bad", or anything similar, and you will find great deal of complaints for the issues that users have.

 

[cheez]

Sorry, you can't say the OS sucks anymore than I can say Ubuntu 12.10 sucks because it doesn't like my Radeon 2400 card. If you have old hardware, you run the risk of compatibility issues when using a newer operating system.

I can assure you, Windows 7 Pro x64 runs flawlessly on my Dell Latitude E6420. On my system with the Radeon 2400 card, I have simply switched to a different Linux variant that is more tolerant of my Radeon card.

Win7Prox64 also runs flawlessly on my home built AMD x4 rig as well as my wife's Core 2 Duo rig. No audio pops, no slowness, no problems.

This thread is simply a product of a user running aged hardware and expecting the producers of the hardware to provide support for a 10+ year old platform. They don't, more often than not. At some point, they have to move their focus towards providing support for recent customers who have made recent purchases. They still supply you with the drivers that were made, but they stop focusing on fixing issues with new operating systems as it becomes too costly to support all of their products.

You've made some good point, but DaveStall already addressed that. Thank you.

Oh and if you read my previous post, I didn't say Windows 7 sucks. I did say "I don't like Windows 7" in thread topic. You guys are way too sensitive.


cheez

 

[Mem]

You've made some good point, but DaveStall already addressed that. Thank you.

Oh and if you read my previous post, I didn't say Windows 7 sucks. I did say "I don't like Windows 7" in thread topic. You guys are way too sensitive.


cheez

When I was using Win7 x64 Ultimate I had an AMD 4870 video card and Asus Xonar DX sound card,no issues with drivers on either etc however the video card was newer then what you had,obviously you can try a different card if possible and also on a LCD monitor just to rule out issues with your Panasonic etc...

I don't think you said Win7 sucks but then so what if you did ,some people here say Win8 sucks so double standards or what lol..anyway for the record both Win7 and Win8 are very good in my books not as good as some Linux Distro's however but then no OS is perfect.

 

[Paul98]

Ignore cheez the troll, that is all he does.

 

[Towermax]

please google this first.

its not going to work most likely

FAT32/NTFS has shitty large drive support anywyas, let alone in a 10 year old OS

3TB USB drive works fine with my WHS system, which is basically Server 2003 plus some special features. Also works fine with an old Pentium-M laptop running Windows XP Pro. I suspect the USB translation solves most of the 2+ TB problems.

 

[compman25]

Remove your $25k speaker cables and see if Win 7 improves.

 

[Zorander]

When I moved to Win7, I experienced crashes which were caused by incompatible drivers as well as programs (often legacy hardware/software). Updating/replacing them with Win7 x64-compatible versions completely resolved the issue. I'm convinced this is the root issue in your case as well.

I honestly can't see why anyone would want to stick with XP-based OS, other than for legacy stuff. When I moved to XP from 2000/98, it was not a totally happy move and it still had the occasional issues even with SP3. Moving to Win7 was an instant love for me and all the issues I had under XP (e.g. oversaturated display on my 2709W, flakey sound issues on my E-MU 1212M, non-native SATA support, etc) were gone. Everything was faster too.

I have a friend who similarly hates Windows 7 for some reasons. Says something about frequent crashes and bad memory management (he uses XP, yeah), though I suspect it's because he does not want to fork money for a new OS and he has a very particular Theme preference under XP that he can't (or fears unable to) emulate under any other OS.

p.s. I have no issue connecting my Panasonic TV (or any other TV) to my Win7-based HTPC. Like others said, this is an issue with your display driver/setting, not Windows 7 itself.

 

[Berryracer]

so leave Windows 7 and go back to what you had before.

Windows 7 is the best OS MS released. nuff said

 

[beginner99]

sorry this thread reeks of user error or trolling.

It reeks because he hasn't showered in 2 weeks!

But I agree.

 

[cheez]

Ignore cheez the troll, that is all he does.

I am not trolling. I simply posted because I have problems, and want answers. Isn't this what forum is for? If it bothers you that much, you can put me on ignore. Problem solved.

Remove your $25k speaker cables and see if Win 7 improves.

It's not speaker cables. They are "power cords". No, they are not the culprit. The problem is within the operating system and drivers / software compatibility issues.

It reeks because he hasn't showered in 2 weeks!

What's not taking shower have anything to do with my problems with Win 7? They are unrelated. Stop trolling...



GUYS, UPDATE:

I don't know what happened, but I am unable to reproduce the problem with uTorrent not starting after reboot. I simply double-clicked uTorrent shortcut from desktop, it starts up fine. So I tried reboot again and tried it, it still opens fine. I repeated the step 3 times, same. Guys, I don't like this irregularities..... And you don't need to do "run as administrator". It works fine for me without doing it.

As for the "pop" "static" issue after closing Media Player Classic, the problem went away after I updated the player. I was running the 2009 version of MPC, that's when the popping started. I didn't have this issue with Server 2003. I uninstalled it and installed the version 680, which is about a year old... No problems so far.

I am still wary about losing left or right channel of sound output to my speakers. It happened to me once, there's no guarantee it won't happen again with Windows 7..... It's like a bomb ready to go off.

Still, the world's biggest problem is the inability to watch youtube videos. Everytime after a restart I can't view youtube videos because the stupid Adobe Flasher player keeps locking up. This only happens within Firefox browser. I didn't have this issue with Internet Explorer... I had this exact same problem with another system at my family's place. The PC is 3~ 4 years newer than mine, but had EXACT SAME CRAP PROBLEM with flash player crashing when going to youtube.

So it is the morons at Firefox (programmers) that's screwing up. They don't know how to make their own browser to work with Adobe Flash player.... This is beyond morons... pure retards.

Looks like I'm gonna have to use IE for youtube then.

As for the video player not working correctly (get stuck at first frame after hitting play), I will try out the newer version of the player.... and see what happens.


The problem with blurry / weird looking texts on GUI hasn't resolved. There is no fix to this other than getting rid of Windows 7.... I'll have to think about it whether I want to keep it or ditch it.



cheez