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I don't believe a bird brought down the plane that crashed into the Hudson

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It wouldn't be the first time:

2 September 1995; U.S. Air Force E-3 AWACS; Elmendorf AFB, Alaska: During takeoff as the aircraft was passing rotation speed, the aircraft struck about three dozen geese, ingesting at least three into engine two and at least one into engine one. The aircraft was unable to maintain controlled flight and crashed in a forest about 1 mile (1.6 km) beyond the runway. All 24 occupants were killed.
 
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: her209
To all the naysayers, why hasn't a list of passengers been released? And why is there a discrepancy on the number of people on the plane?
Yeah cause this is so important. 😕
Who are they protecting?

Maybe passengers privacy from the media etc?
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Geez, some people. It wasn't terrorist missiles, it was a collision with a UFO taking off from the secret alien base under NYC harbor..... Sheesh get it right

Birds could of been the UFO if they didnt get their ID.

So it was Mexican alien illegal immigrant birds?

fixed
 
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
WHere are all the Canadian apologists defending their kamikaze geese?

We will be sending more of our beloved pest, I mean national bird, into Amerikinsky airport!
 
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: her209
To all the naysayers, why hasn't a list of passengers been released? And why is there a discrepancy on the number of people on the plane?
Yeah cause this is so important. 😕
Who are they protecting?

Maybe passengers privacy from the media etc?

Hi Sir, this is Captain Obvious. The other guy is just messing with you.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: her209
To all the naysayers, why hasn't a list of passengers been released? And why is there a discrepancy on the number of people on the plane?
Yeah cause this is so important. 😕
Who are they protecting?

Maybe passengers privacy from the media etc?

Hi Sir, this is Captain Obvious. The other guy is just messing with you.

You are not a captain. 😉
 
Originally posted by: her209
To all the naysayers, why hasn't a list of passengers been released? And why is there a discrepancy on the number of people on the plane?

1)The airlines don't make a habit of releasing lists of passengers to the general public for obvious reasons. Go ahead, call the airport and say "Hi, I'm with CNN, could I get a list of passengers for AA flight 34832 from San Antonia to Las Vegas? No? But why not, are you trying to HIDE something? Is there some sort of SECRET GOVERNMENT CABAL that's withholding the information?"

2)Frankly, having there be no confusion and no bookkeeping errors is much more suspicious to me than having a very mild discrepancy. Let's say the airline gets the number of passengers from the checkin desk, and the number of crew. Then Jim-Bob the pilot says "Hey, I need to get to Yellowknife by tomorrow, and I'm hung over. You guys got a spare seat, right? I can catch a connection from there." The crew makes a note that Jim Bob is flying with them, maybe passes it on before takeoff.

Plane crashes, the officials open their little Excel database and say "there were OVER 9000 passengers on that flight, and 42 crew." "But wait, didn't Jim-Bob go with them? I thought I saw a note," says the secretary. "Uhh..we have a discrepancy in the number of people on the plane..." they say.

3)Ditching a plane in the river successfully, causing no additional property damage, and having no one die counts as the WORST. CONSPIRACY. EVER.

4)Cars, which have fully enclosed engines with less delicate components, plenty of protection from frontal impact, and a much lower speed than planes, can be rendered useless by a deer strike. Is it really so hard to believe that a jet turbine with a huge opening in the front leading to very thin turbine blades spinning at 10,000 RPM and traveling at 400+ MPH is susceptible to a big fat bird like a Canada goose?
And is it really so strange that a plane flying through a FLOCK of them might hit more than one? Seriously, sketch a flock of geese, and put a to-scale representation of a plane on there. Diagram the swept area of the engines (remember, the geese are basically stationary WRT the plane on this timescale). I bet you get a goose in each engine at some point.
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: her209
To all the naysayers, why hasn't a list of passengers been released? And why is there a discrepancy on the number of people on the plane?

1)The airlines don't make a habit of releasing lists of passengers to the general public for obvious reasons. Go ahead, call the airport and say "Hi, I'm with CNN, could I get a list of passengers for AA flight 34832 from San Antonia to Las Vegas? No? But why not, are you trying to HIDE something? Is there some sort of SECRET GOVERNMENT CABAL that's withholding the information?"

2)Frankly, having there be no confusion and no bookkeeping errors is much more suspicious to me than having a very mild discrepancy. Let's say the airline gets the number of passengers from the checkin desk, and the number of crew. Then Jim-Bob the pilot says "Hey, I need to get to Yellowknife by tomorrow, and I'm hung over. You guys got a spare seat, right? I can catch a connection from there." The crew makes a note that Jim Bob is flying with them, maybe passes it on before takeoff.

Plane crashes, the officials open their little Excel database and say "there were OVER 9000 passengers on that flight, and 42 crew." "But wait, didn't Jim-Bob go with them? I thought I saw a note," says the secretary. "Uhh..we have a discrepancy in the number of people on the plane..." they say.

3)Ditching a plane in the river successfully, causing no additional property damage, and having no one die counts as the WORST. CONSPIRACY. EVER.

4)Cars, which have fully enclosed engines with less delicate components, plenty of protection from frontal impact, and a much lower speed than planes, can be rendered useless by a deer strike. Is it really so hard to believe that a jet turbine with a huge opening in the front leading to very thin turbine blades spinning at 10,000 RPM and traveling at 400+ MPH is susceptible to a big fat bird like a Canada goose?
And is it really so strange that a plane flying through a FLOCK of them might hit more than one? Seriously, sketch a flock of geese, and put a to-scale representation of a plane on there. Diagram the swept area of the engines (remember, the geese are basically stationary WRT the plane on this timescale). I bet you get a goose in each engine at some point.

You're one of "them" aren't you. Here to disguise THE TRUTH with your bogus explanations and facts!
😉
 
Originally posted by: amicold
I'd guess they just don't know so they pulled feathers out of their asses. It's not a conspiracy, mechanical failure is mechanical failure.

That could be true. Maybe they did a crappy job maintaining that plane and just blamed it on birds.
 
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: her209
To all the naysayers, why hasn't a list of passengers been released? And why is there a discrepancy on the number of people on the plane?
Yeah cause this is so important. 😕
Who are they protecting?

Holy Christ, you really are a fucking idiot.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
You're one of "them" aren't you. Here to disguise THE TRUTH with your bogus explanations and facts!
😉

I figured I'd put ONE detailed, thought-out explanation in this thread, and then we can get back to making fun of the OP.

(I never act paranoid. It attracts attention from the "big 5" who control all of the world governments.)
 
Who was in the river where the plane hit, hmmm? Answer me that! Wikipedia runs the assassination of Bobby Kennedy as the feature story of the day!! I think Bobby and John were on their sailboat in the Hudson!!! The plane was being flown by none other than Teddy, HA!!!! Prove me wrong!!!!!
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: spidey07
You're one of "them" aren't you. Here to disguise THE TRUTH with your bogus explanations and facts!
😉

I figured I'd put ONE detailed, thought-out explanation in this thread, and then we can get back to making fun of the OP.

(I never act paranoid. It attracts attention from the "big 5" who control all of the world governments.)

They control the world governments?!?! Crap, I've been deleting their emails unread. 😱
 
What I read today is that the engines in the Airbus are designed to withstand a 4 pound bird strike. The problem is that an average Canadian goose weighs something in the vicinity of 10 pounds. Damn under-designed euro-engines!! :roll:


Actually, it WAS a jihadist goose. Right before it sacrificed itself to the imperialist jet engine, it was heard to shout, "Allah Ak-bird!!!!!" :laugh:
 
timed charges placed by demolition experts at specific points on teh engines? A friend of mine told me that an engineer buddy fo theirs said that explosions with distinctive "pops" could be heard from inside the cabin

birds don't make sounds like that. not at all.

Also, the passengers on the missing planes were teh same passengers that were "kidnapped" by the government from the planes that were supposed to have flown into the towers. Of course, we know that those passengers never died initially, because they never hit the towers. But the government needed to find a way to get rid of them, before they started talking.

This damn pilot ruined their plans though. Just wait till these guys start talking. Oh man...
 
Come to think of it, the engines still haven't been found yet, and this was an AirBus. Obviously the Brits are somehow involved.
 
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