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I do not like take home finals.

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HamburgerBoy said:
What I hated about take home tests are that everybody cheated on them. You'd have people working on them together in lab while the professor is talking and the professor either doesn't give a shit or is blind. The questions were generally reasonable (although half the class still asked others because they're fucking idiots that never pay attention in lab) which isn't necessarily bad, but when everybody gets A's on the final, it fucks up the curve and ordinarily petty point differences become huge.
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I am probably the most motivated person in my class (perhaps due to me being 12 years older than everyone else) and it annoys me that people who fucked off all semester now wanna be my friend.
 
shortylickens said:
I can spend one weekend watching NOVA, National Geographic, and Biography and get MUCH more knowledge than a whole semester of classes.
But thats life.
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I've learned more about the media industry listening to ex-shock jocks Opie & Anthony bitch about it. Ah, the stuff school can't teach. :\
 
I dont know how it is in the rest of the country, but in my college I'd say its about 3/4 female. ANd they are all stupid, lazy, and slutty.
They dont wanna do the work, or pay attention. They just flirt with boys to get them to do their school work. And it always fucking works.
One chick in my pre-calc class said she got her boyfriend to do all her homework and projects for her.
Because she isnt good at math she couldnt calculate that the homework is worth nothing, the in-class quizzes are worth 10 percent, the mid term is 30 percent and the final is 30 percent. Given that she knows jack shit about y=mx+b, I am sure she will fail.
 
DLeRium said:
makes a huge difference. it depends what industry you are in. you know some of the more cutthroat competitive ones like consulting and accountancy? look at where those firms get fed from. For example if you take the Big 4 accounting and you rank them EY, Deloitte, PWC, KPMG, look at where each recruit from. School matters. At a Fortune 100 company that my friend works at, there's an internal memo showing the Tier 1 schools like Berkeley, Stanford, MIT getting first dibs, but my local CSU where I'm getting my Masters and lower tier UC schools like Irvine and Davis are "Tier 3" in terms of hiring.

Certainly it helps doing well on your interviews because there's no saving you if you have zero social skills and are from MIT, but when all things are equal, school does help.
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He isn't going to anything in the first 3 tiers in your example there. Not going to make a difference there.

If all he had was a shitty CC to go to and he had the GI bill then he should have moved somewhere else and gone to a decent school.
 
Numenorean said:
He isn't going to anything in the first 3 tiers in your example there. Not going to make a difference there.

If all he had was a shitty CC to go to and he had the GI bill then he should have moved somewhere else and gone to a decent school.
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I cant afford to move. Especially not to a nicer area with better schools. If I had that kind of money I wouldnt need school anyway.
 
To be fair, everyone seems to be retarded regarding calculating class scores. Even in upper-division chemistry classes you get the people still asking the professor about what their grade is. But then again, there are people that don't understand how to convert cubic millimeters to cubic meters taking second-semester physical chemistry (which assumes knowledge of calculus II), so maybe everyone is a lazy cheating fuckhead. I know your point is that people are shooting themselves in the foot by not learning and relying on mere breadcrumbs in the form of quizzes and homework, but I think a lot of them pass on a generous curve thanks to those that don't even try to get the easy points and still fail the exams. That's the only way I can understand people getting to their senior year of a semi-math-rigorous degree and being unable understand high school algebra.
 
shortylickens said:
I cant afford to move. Especially not to a nicer area with better schools. If I had that kind of money I wouldnt need school anyway.
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Poor you. While everyone else bucks up and moves and sacrifices things to get a good education, you're in the corner whining about how you have to go to some shitty community college. I don't really feel sorry for you. You could have moved, could have gone to a decent school. It can be done. You would have to be motivated and work hard...maybe that's too much.
 
Numenorean said:
Poor you. While everyone else bucks up and moves and sacrifices things to get a good education, you're in the corner whining about how you have to go to some shitty community college.
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Thats nice.
If I were like you I guess I'd feel the need to crap on people trying to improve their lot in life.
Am glad I'm not like you.
 
shortylickens said:
Thats nice.
If I were like you I guess I'd feel the need to crap on people trying to improve their lot in life.
Am glad I'm not like you.
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Problem is you aren't trying to improve your lot in life. You know where you are going isn't any good, but it doesn't seem to matter. I'm glad I'm not like you - if I didn't like a situation, I'd work my ass off to change it. I wouldn't just accept a shitty situation and then whine about it.
 
The only time I hated "take home exams" was when the professor expressly prohibited using the internet or any source other than the textbook.
Otherwise...all the time you need/want, no one looking over your shoulder, free textbook/notes usage...what's not to like?
 
BoomerD said:
The only time I hated "take home exams" was when the professor expressly prohibited using the internet or any source other than the textbook.
Otherwise...all the time you need/want, no one looking over your shoulder, free textbook/notes usage...what's not to like?
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How would he know if you used the internet at home?
 
shortylickens said:
I guess I'll have to learn it from Youtube and see if I can answer the question.
Thats how I learned Macro last semester.
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Gee, when you put it that way, it makes it sound like you don't go to 100% of the classes. I know that teachers usually don't cover new material when they notice their star student is absent, but maybe, just maybe he covered something while you were out.
 
I know on certification tests people that fail always cry "it wasn't in the book!"...9.99 times out of 10 those that passed know it was.
 
alkemyst said:
I know on certification tests people that fail always cry "it wasn't in the book!"...9.99 times out of 10 those that passed know it was.
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I had a math prof who always made his tests 100% from homework questions. But, when assigning homework problems, he would assign 30 or 40 problems a night (class every other day), and would put an asterisk next to 4 or 5 problems that he planned on collecting, just to keep tabs on how everyone was doing.

It was always incredibly amusing to hear people vocally complain during the next class when we got our tests back about how the test wasn't fair because "we never saw any questions like those!" I found him to be one of the easiest professors to ace the tests of (ruining any chance of a curve for other students.)
 
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