I didn't register for selective service, anyone else?

[iGas]

And I wonder if he felt wronged by all the little rich kids buying their way out of the draft. No difference here. Everyone puts in and shares the risk. Nobody is special.

I have to agree that nobody is special, but many honorable people that are wrong by the flawed system.

Chickenhawks, Draft Dodgers and War Resisters

American men of a certain age all have identical memories of having long ago faced a choice of what to do about the Vietnam War. To enlist or wait to be drafted. To cooperate or not cooperate with Selective Service. To pull strings to land a spot in the National Guard or not. To fake a medical deferment or not. And on and on. The secret we all know about each other is that some of us made honorable choices and others didn't. The chickenhawks didn't.

What lessons can we learn from our history of resistance to the Vietnam War? First, that concessions are not freely given, but must be seized. This was true for ending the draft, achieving limited amnesty, and gaining official recognition of the effects of Agent Orange and PTSD, and it will be true in the future. Next, while the contributions of resistance to stopping aggression and imperialist adventure aren't decisive, they are important. Resistance increases the cost of exercising illegitimate use of power. In the final analysis, it shortened the war and saved lives. Finally, as with the pointless game of comparing combat to non-combat vet, in-country to stateside, or deserter to draftee, it's futile to draw comparisons between differing degrees of resistance. Each of us knows where we stood then, how we changed, and where we stand now. Today the ranks of the chickenhawks represent the most reprehensible hypocrisy and mendacity; the ranks of VVAW represent solidarity across lines of class, nationality, race and gender.

 

[BoomerD]

I have to agree that nobody is special, but many honorable people that are wrong by the flawed system.

Chickenhawks, Draft Dodgers and War Resisters

Ah yes....the chickenhawk brigade...

http://www.nhgazette.com/chickenhawks/

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I think you are the one who is a lost cause.

You've never made a mistake or overlooked something and then been unhappy with the consequences?

Never one that I backed into from being clueless.

 

[Qacer]

What if I am over age 26 and haven't registered?
Once you reach age 26, it's too late to register. Even though you may not be prosecuted, you may be denied student financial assistance, Federal job training, and most Federal employment unless you can provide convincing evidence to the agency providing the benefit you are seeking, that your failure to register was not knowing and willful.

Interesting. So if you come to the USA at 27 and become a naturalized citizen at 37, then you'd be sh*t out of luck with any federal financial aids or certain federal positions?

 

[Brainonska511]

Interesting. So if you come to the USA at 27 and become a naturalized citizen at 37, then you'd be sh*t out of luck with any federal financial aids or certain federal positions?

I highly doubt that is the case. There is another part of the site that says this:

No status information letters are required from the Selective Service System for

:
Note to financial aid officers: If the man falls within one of the following categories, a Status Information Letter from Selective Service is NOT required if he can provide a copy of supporting documentation proving his case to your satisfaction. For more information, please consult the latest Student Financial Aid Handbook, Volume 1, Chapter 5, Page 1-61. To refer to the handbook, please click here.

• Non-U.S. male who came into this country for the first time after his 26th birthday

Date of entry stamp in his passport, I-94 with date of entry stamp on it, or a letter from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) indicating the date the man entered the United States. If the men entered the U.S. illegally after his 26th birthday, he must provide proof that he was not living in the U.S. from age 18 through 25. Resident Alien Card (Green Card) is not valid as proof of the date of entry to the United States.

 

[Modular]

I wish that website was working now. I want to find out if I'm registered. I don't remember a thing about this, but I have received government financial aid for college, so I'm assuming that I did. It's just strange that this isn't automatic. I'm betting that if the people who also never heard about this appealed to the government they would let you register.

 

[CRXican]

oops

 

[Kanalua]

imagine if they had a draft today. How many men eligible for selective service would not pass the physical?

 

[pcgeek11]

Yeah it doesn't make much sense. After looking at that sss.gov website it appears that I am registered for it. I have no idea when. Must have been part of a drivers license application or something.

Either way, LOL @ all the people in this thread who act like they are all high and mighty for registering. If you were that noble you would have enlisted.

I did during Vietnam and completed 20+ years and retired.

 

[zerocool84]

imagine if they had a draft today. How many men eligible for selective service would not pass the physical?

They'd just put you in "Fat camp" until you're in shape.

 

[Zargon]

They'd just put you in "Fat camp" until you're in shape.

LOL.

I know a guy that didnt get drafted because he couldnt pass the weigh-in.

3 fails and no go.

 

[Modular]

Looks like I registered at some point. YaY for civic duty.

 

[Zebo]

All prosecutions are those who admitted it and admitted knowing about duty to do it.

In 1980, men who knew they were required to register and did not do so could face up to five years in jail or a fine up to $50,000 if convicted. The potential fine was later increased to $250,000. Despite these possible penalties, government records indicate that from 1980 through 1986 there were only 20 indictments, of which 19 were instigated in part by self-publicized and self-reported non-registration.[23] As one of the elements of the offense, the government must prove that a violation of the Military Selective Service Act was knowing and willful. This is almost impossible unless the prospective defendant has publicly stated that he knew he was required to register or report for induction, or unless he has been visited by the FBI, personally served with notice to register or report for induction, and given another chance to comply.

So anyone admitting it to you in this thread like you did would be a fool.

 

[bignateyk]

Looks like I registered at some point. YaY for civic duty.

Yeah apparently I registered 5 days after my 18th birthday :hmm:. Now I can talk down on all you America hating assholes that didn't register. :awe:

 

[HydroSqueegee]

Date of Registration
3/26/1998

2.5 months after my 18th birthday

... funny i dont remember doing it...

 

[VICTORY2037]

I guess my problem is that I'm not from the mainland like you folks. I'm originally from Honolulu, Hawaii, born & raised. But, no biggy, nothing rebuilding good credit cannot fix right? Mahalo

 

[AlienCraft]

One of the qualifications is that you had to have registered for the SS.

You don't meet the qualifications, genius.

:biggrin::thumbsup: Well played sir!

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

I only got other 1 million place to work. I have finance degree.

LOL... I can haz finance degree?

 

[AlienCraft]

Same here, babby boomer

Same for me.
I went down to make sure. You know how the gubmint'll lie to you.:whiste: :biggrin:

 

[Powermoloch]

i signed up, and i'm still in one piece.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

glad I signed up because it meant I was eligible for my govt. job