I declare Barack Hussein Obama unelectable

[Socio]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: bthorny
I watch right wing radio and it tells me that Obama is a bad person and hates me (o'riley and limbaugh are gods) I believe this because I'm stupid and cannot think for myself....and people that think for themselves are dumb because all I need to know I get from my radio....anyone that really uses logic is stupid because jesus is right and he is with me(obama is a muslim because rush told me so...).....:thumbsup:

well, if we believe Obama, us typical white people are all too racist and too busy crossing the street to hide from black people to vote for him anyways.

Seriously though, I think that statement by Obama let his true feelings slip through;

Obama: Grandma 'Typical White Person' Fearing Everyone She Doesn't Know

The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. But she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know. . .there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way.

When he says this about typical white people he is prejudging all white people, which makes him prejudice by definition.

I feel like I should try and get a sticky thread made or something where it's titled "All the people claiming white people aren't scared of black people read this".

As I've mentioned several other places, this fear reaction is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO EXIST. It doesn't make you a bad person for having the feeling, but it's there. Obama knows this, every rational person in America knows this. Hell, I have this feeling myself. When he says the typical white person has this fear, he is speaking a fact. If you don't like facts, I'm sorry.

Don?t you think using some alleged primeval instinct as excuse to declare that all White people are racist thus any time the favor is returned is justified is reaching just a little bit.

The Fact is everyone one fears an unpredictable entity even Blacks: for example a lot of people, Black, White, and Brown are apprehensive around Pit Bull?s and will even cross the street to avoid them, does that mean they have some ingrained physiological fear of Pit Bulls?

Of course not, it just means they simply know Pit Bulls are more notorious for violent attacks than any other breed of dog and don?t want to take any chances.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: bthorny
I watch right wing radio and it tells me that Obama is a bad person and hates me (o'riley and limbaugh are gods) I believe this because I'm stupid and cannot think for myself....and people that think for themselves are dumb because all I need to know I get from my radio....anyone that really uses logic is stupid because jesus is right and he is with me(obama is a muslim because rush told me so...).....:thumbsup:

well, if we believe Obama, us typical white people are all too racist and too busy crossing the street to hide from black people to vote for him anyways.

Seriously though, I think that statement by Obama let his true feelings slip through;

Obama: Grandma 'Typical White Person' Fearing Everyone She Doesn't Know

The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. But she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know. . .there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way.

When he says this about typical white people he is prejudging all white people, which makes him prejudice by definition.

I feel like I should try and get a sticky thread made or something where it's titled "All the people claiming white people aren't scared of black people read this".

As I've mentioned several other places, this fear reaction is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO EXIST. It doesn't make you a bad person for having the feeling, but it's there. Obama knows this, every rational person in America knows this. Hell, I have this feeling myself. When he says the typical white person has this fear, he is speaking a fact. If you don't like facts, I'm sorry.

Can you grace us with this "Scientifically Proven" study please. I'd oh so love to read it.

Sure! Well sorta. I have the paper copy here.

It's from Vol. 8 No. 6 (June 2005) of Nature Neuroscience by Lieberman, Hariri, Jarcho, Eisenberger and Bookheimer. Title: "An fMRI investigation of race-related amygdala activity in African-American and Caucasian-American individuals".

I will admit that to say something is proven based off of a few studies (there are others) might take it too far. The scientific evidence available to us currently strongly suggests that it is so, as there is a statistically significant threat response to African Americans by both white and black subjects.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Socio

Don?t you think using some alleged primeval instinct as excuse to declare that all White people are racist thus any time the favor is returned is justified is reaching just a little bit.

The Fact is everyone one fears an unpredictable entity even Blacks: for example a lot of people, Black, White, and Brown are apprehensive around Pit Bull?s and will even cross the street to avoid them, does that mean they have some ingrained physiological fear of Pit Bulls?

Of course not, it just means they simply know Pit Bulls are more notorious for violent attacks than any other breed of dog and don?t want to take any chances.

I did no such thing. I said that when Obama said the typical white person felt a certain way that it was backed up by science. So when you blast him for saying what is true, you are being stupid.

As far as comparing black people to dangerous dogs... I'm not even going to grace that with a response.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: tweaker2

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Please, no candidate is perfect, but to say Obama should get out the race just points either to how little you know about politics or how much you love McCain or Hillary. He's a strong candidate.

he IS a strong candidate and this thread is a perfect example of how much fear there is of obama and his attributes.

much easier to create and attack a narrowly defined perception of him rather than taking him at full face value. way to go. yay....

There isn?t exactly a long list of accomplishments in the political realm to form much of a perception, other than backing a bill that will give 845 billion of our GOP that we can?t afford to the worlds poor mostly Africa. So we have to judge on what we do know which is his family and religious life to try make a judgment on him.

 

[RKDaley]

Originally posted by: Socio
There isn?t exactly a long list of accomplishments in the political realm to form much of a perception, other than backing a bill that will give 845 billion of our GOP that we can?t afford to the worlds poor mostly Africa. So we have to judge on what we do know which is his family and religious life to try make a judgment on him.

Do you mean the GNP?

(GNP) is defined as the "value of all goods and services produced in a country in one year, plus income earned by its citizens abroad, minus income earned by foreigners in the country"[2].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNP

But giving our GOP doesn't sound too bad

The bill I think you are referring to is called the Global Poverty Act of 2007 . It's purpose:

To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

Basically what this means is that it wants to require the president to make sure the goal is met by the already agreed upon deadline. The Obama bill passed out of committee with the cooperation of the co-sponsor, Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.
FYI:

The Millennium Development Goals derive from earlier 'international development goals'[1], and were officially established at the Millennium Summit in 2000, where 189 world leaders adopted the United Nations Millennium Declaration, from which the eight-goal action plan, the 'Millennium Development Goals', was particularly promoted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...nnium_Development_Goal

"The commitment to provide 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) as official development assistance was first made 35 years ago in a General Assembly resolution, but it has been reaffirmed repeatedly over the years, including at the 2002 global Financing for Development conference in Monterrey, Mexico. However, in 2004, total aid from the industrialized countries totaled just $78.6 billion-or about 0.25% of their collective GNP."
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child

In short, the goal was already agreed upon, by world leaders. Barack Obama did not create the goal, he backed the bill to insure the goal is met by the already agreed upon deadline of 2015.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Socio

Don?t you think using some alleged primeval instinct as excuse to declare that all White people are racist thus any time the favor is returned is justified is reaching just a little bit.

The Fact is everyone one fears an unpredictable entity even Blacks: for example a lot of people, Black, White, and Brown are apprehensive around Pit Bull?s and will even cross the street to avoid them, does that mean they have some ingrained physiological fear of Pit Bulls?

Of course not, it just means they simply know Pit Bulls are more notorious for violent attacks than any other breed of dog and don?t want to take any chances.

I did no such thing. I said that when Obama said the typical white person felt a certain way that it was backed up by science. So when you blast him for saying what is true, you are being stupid.

As far as comparing black people to dangerous dogs... I'm not even going to grace that with a response.

I am not comparing Black people to Pit Bulls I am simply showing you that the fear of an unpredictable entity is not an ingrained physiological psychosis it is a ?learned? fear, nothing is unpredictable until you ?learn? that it is.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Socio

I am not comparing Black people to Pit Bulls I am simply showing you that the fear of an unpredictable entity is not an ingrained physiological psychosis it is a ?learned? fear, nothing is unpredictable until you ?learn? that it is.

It is very much a learned fear, you're right. Nothing I have said or written said that the fear white people have for blacks is some sort of genetic or natural disposition.

In fact, that's exactly what Obama was saying. It's a learned distinction. You agree with him afterall!

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: RKDaley

Originally posted by: Socio
There isn?t exactly a long list of accomplishments in the political realm to form much of a perception, other than backing a bill that will give 845 billion of our GOP that we can?t afford to the worlds poor mostly Africa. So we have to judge on what we do know which is his family and religious life to try make a judgment on him.

Do you mean the GNP?

(GNP) is defined as the "value of all goods and services produced in a country in one year, plus income earned by its citizens abroad, minus income earned by foreigners in the country"[2].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNP

But giving our GOP doesn't sound too bad

The bill I think you are referring to is called the Global Poverty Act of 2007 . It's purpose:

To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

Basically what this means is that it wants to require the president to make sure the goal is met by the already agreed upon deadline. The Obama bill passed out of committee with the cooperation of the co-sponsor, Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.
FYI:

The Millennium Development Goals derive from earlier 'international development goals'[1], and were officially established at the Millennium Summit in 2000, where 189 world leaders adopted the United Nations Millennium Declaration, from which the eight-goal action plan, the 'Millennium Development Goals', was particularly promoted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...nnium_Development_Goal

"The commitment to provide 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) as official development assistance was first made 35 years ago in a General Assembly resolution, but it has been reaffirmed repeatedly over the years, including at the 2002 global Financing for Development conference in Monterrey, Mexico. However, in 2004, total aid from the industrialized countries totaled just $78.6 billion-or about 0.25% of their collective GNP."
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child

In short, the goal was already agreed upon, by world leaders. Barack Obama did not create the goal, he backed the bill to insure the goal is met by the already agreed upon deadline of 2015.

Yes I meant GNP, did not know it was first made 35 years ago though. However with cost of the War on Terror, Social Security in such bad shape, and our economy on the verge of a depression and everyone getting ready to dump the dollar I think Obama?s efforts would be better spent backing us out of the deal until such a time where we can afford it again, if we ever can.

 

[Bird222]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: RKDaley

Originally posted by: Socio
There isn?t exactly a long list of accomplishments in the political realm to form much of a perception, other than backing a bill that will give 845 billion of our GOP that we can?t afford to the worlds poor mostly Africa. So we have to judge on what we do know which is his family and religious life to try make a judgment on him.

Do you mean the GNP?

(GNP) is defined as the "value of all goods and services produced in a country in one year, plus income earned by its citizens abroad, minus income earned by foreigners in the country"[2].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNP

But giving our GOP doesn't sound too bad

The bill I think you are referring to is called the Global Poverty Act of 2007 . It's purpose:

To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

Basically what this means is that it wants to require the president to make sure the goal is met by the already agreed upon deadline. The Obama bill passed out of committee with the cooperation of the co-sponsor, Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.
FYI:

The Millennium Development Goals derive from earlier 'international development goals'[1], and were officially established at the Millennium Summit in 2000, where 189 world leaders adopted the United Nations Millennium Declaration, from which the eight-goal action plan, the 'Millennium Development Goals', was particularly promoted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...nnium_Development_Goal

"The commitment to provide 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) as official development assistance was first made 35 years ago in a General Assembly resolution, but it has been reaffirmed repeatedly over the years, including at the 2002 global Financing for Development conference in Monterrey, Mexico. However, in 2004, total aid from the industrialized countries totaled just $78.6 billion-or about 0.25% of their collective GNP."
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child

In short, the goal was already agreed upon, by world leaders. Barack Obama did not create the goal, he backed the bill to insure the goal is met by the already agreed upon deadline of 2015.

Yes I meant GNP, did not know it was first made 35 years ago though. However with cost of the War on Terror, Social Security in such bad shape, and our economy on the verge of a depression and everyone getting ready to dump the dollar I think Obama?s efforts would be better spent backing us out of the deal until such a time where we can afford it again, if we ever can.

This is a perfect example of short-sighted, reactionary responce I am talking about. Does anybody take time to breathe and think a minute before they jump to conclusions? Oh and Socio, I am still waiting on your proof on the statement you made earlier.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: JS80
Anyone else find it ironic it's a Democratic Reverend that will be the cause for the Republican win?

Should anyone be surprised when you look at the individuals attending this particular church and their... controversial viewpoints?

 

[Farang]

Nobody is unelectable. I think that was proved in '04

 

[zoiks]

Obama who?

 

[jpeyton]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: zoiks
Obama who?

You're cruel!
In OP's defense, lots of people said some things during the primaries which look pretty silly now. You spend most of a day bringing up these sorts of threads.

 

[sandorski]

Obama should pull out before getting humiliated!!!

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Sinsear
Yes; the swiftboating potential over the pastor is incredible.

Funny how they didn't do it? hmmm.

 

[First]

Epic bump.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: Evan
Epic bump.

You bumped a thread that had five replies in the last 8 minutes?

Epic

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Yes; the swiftboating potential over the pastor is incredible.

Funny how they didn't do it? hmmm.

But oh, how they tried... and tried... and tried. Fortunately, at this point, I think it's safe to call their efforts an epic failure. :beer: :thumbsup:

 

[EagleKeeper]

There was no need for a 8 month old thread to be bumped.


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