I debated whether to post this or not

[bradruth]

My condolences, E.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
sex in this country has such a 'look but don't touch,' 'we'll hint at it, but never address it,' 'taboo' attitude that it's no wonder that people like this who have been told how wrong sex is their whole life never get a healthy chance to express that emotion without resorting to such a vile crime.

First of all, my condolences...rapists are one of those groups of criminals I think need to be executed in the most painful manner possible. Dipped very slowly into molten copper, feet first, seems like a good idea. I honestly don't know how people can be so warped they do things like that, it makes me fvcking sick.

Rape is about power, not sex. Most rapists have trouble with women/life in general, and they become frustrated because a "real man" is supposed to be able to get a girl whenever the urge hits. Obviously we all have varying success with the opposite sex, but rapists usually have much worse than average success. The thing that seperates them from the ugly, awkward guy who just can't get any is that rapists are unable to deal with their feelings of un-manliness.

The problem isn't that sex is a taboo in our culture, the problem is that not everyone can be a ladies man, even though society tells us that's exactly what men are supposed to be. Men who have trouble getting women aren't frustrated just because they aren't dealing with their sexual emotions, they are frustrated more because it's considered very unmanly not to be able to get the girl, even if they don't realize it. But most normal people accept that, it takes a person disconnected from reality to break the barrier between what they want and what they can have.

And what the hell IS your solution anyways? Sex is something between two (or more) consenting people, if a girl doesn't want to have sex, that's not a "problem", that's her choice. Are you saying sex should be more casual? Maybe so, but *I* sure as hell am not going to tell women (or men for that matter) how they should feel about sex. The real solution is to have people accept who they are instead of feeling un-manly because of it.

 

[Mill]

Thank you all for your replies. I'm really just in shock that it happened to her and I can't imagine how the rest of the family feels. I have a knot in my stomach just from thinking about it. I mean, why do we always let sex offenders out to rape again? Their rate of recidivism is extremely high.

 

[Klixxer]

There are few things that i believe are truly unforgivable, rape is one of them.

So sorry for your friends Mill.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: dmw16
On the topic of killing someone who raped a GF/sister or whatever. THere was a case of justifiable homicide several years back. If you have seem "A Time to Kill" with Samuel L Jackson then you know the jist of it. That is the basic way it unfolded, but the guy got off on a case of justifiable homicide. If there ever was a reason to kill...that would be it.

in those cases though, its only considered justifiable if its done "in the heat of passion". if there's a hint of premeditation, you can kiss your ass goodbye.

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
There are a few things that i believe are truly unforgivable, rape is one of them.

So sorry for your friends Mill.

fixed for ya

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Hammer

Originally posted by: dmw16
On the topic of killing someone who raped a GF/sister or whatever. THere was a case of justifiable homicide several years back. If you have seem "A Time to Kill" with Samuel L Jackson then you know the jist of it. That is the basic way it unfolded, but the guy got off on a case of justifiable homicide. If there ever was a reason to kill...that would be it.

in those cases though, its only considered justifiable if its done "in the heat of passion". if there's a hint of premeditation, you can kiss your ass goodbye.

I think in Grisham's book A Time to Kill it was pretty pre-meditated how he killed those rednecks, but I can't really say I have a problem with it.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
sex in this country has such a 'look but don't touch,' 'we'll hint at it, but never address it,' 'taboo' attitude that it's no wonder that people like this who have been told how wrong sex is their whole life never get a healthy chance to express that emotion without resorting to such a vile crime.

First of all, my condolences...rapists are one of those groups of criminals I think need to be executed in the most painful manner possible. Dipped very slowly into molten copper, feet first, seems like a good idea. I honestly don't know how people can be so warped they do things like that, it makes me fvcking sick.

Rape is about power, not sex. Most rapists have trouble with women/life in general, and they become frustrated because a "real man" is supposed to be able to get a girl whenever the urge hits. Obviously we all have varying success with the opposite sex, but rapists usually have much worse than average success. The thing that seperates them from the ugly, awkward guy who just can't get any is that rapists are unable to deal with their feelings of un-manliness.

The problem isn't that sex is a taboo in our culture, the problem is that not everyone can be a ladies man, even though society tells us that's exactly what men are supposed to be. Men who have trouble getting women aren't frustrated just because they aren't dealing with their sexual emotions, they are frustrated more because it's considered very unmanly not to be able to get the girl, even if they don't realize it. But most normal people accept that, it takes a person disconnected from reality to break the barrier between what they want and what they can have.

And what the hell IS your solution anyways? Sex is something between two (or more) consenting people, if a girl doesn't want to have sex, that's not a "problem", that's her choice. Are you saying sex should be more casual? Maybe so, but *I* sure as hell am not going to tell women (or men for that matter) how they should feel about sex. The real solution is to have people accept who they are instead of feeling un-manly because of it.

THANK YOU. It's about time someone made these extremely valid points, including the one that's bolded.

Sorry to hear about the rape, Mill.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Hammer

Originally posted by: dmw16
On the topic of killing someone who raped a GF/sister or whatever. THere was a case of justifiable homicide several years back. If you have seem "A Time to Kill" with Samuel L Jackson then you know the jist of it. That is the basic way it unfolded, but the guy got off on a case of justifiable homicide. If there ever was a reason to kill...that would be it.

in those cases though, its only considered justifiable if its done "in the heat of passion". if there's a hint of premeditation, you can kiss your ass goodbye.

Some things are worth it...if someone raped a GF, close friend, or family member, I don't even want to think about what I'd do.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
sex in this country has such a 'look but don't touch,' 'we'll hint at it, but never address it,' 'taboo' attitude that it's no wonder that people like this who have been told how wrong sex is their whole life never get a healthy chance to express that emotion without resorting to such a vile crime.

First of all, my condolences...rapists are one of those groups of criminals I think need to be executed in the most painful manner possible. Dipped very slowly into molten copper, feet first, seems like a good idea. I honestly don't know how people can be so warped they do things like that, it makes me fvcking sick.

Rape is about power, not sex. Most rapists have trouble with women/life in general, and they become frustrated because a "real man" is supposed to be able to get a girl whenever the urge hits. Obviously we all have varying success with the opposite sex, but rapists usually have much worse than average success. The thing that seperates them from the ugly, awkward guy who just can't get any is that rapists are unable to deal with their feelings of un-manliness.

The problem isn't that sex is a taboo in our culture, the problem is that not everyone can be a ladies man, even though society tells us that's exactly what men are supposed to be. Men who have trouble getting women aren't frustrated just because they aren't dealing with their sexual emotions, they are frustrated more because it's considered very unmanly not to be able to get the girl, even if they don't realize it. But most normal people accept that, it takes a person disconnected from reality to break the barrier between what they want and what they can have.

And what the hell IS your solution anyways? Sex is something between two (or more) consenting people, if a girl doesn't want to have sex, that's not a "problem", that's her choice. Are you saying sex should be more casual? Maybe so, but *I* sure as hell am not going to tell women (or men for that matter) how they should feel about sex. The real solution is to have people accept who they are instead of feeling un-manly because of it.

You saved me the trouble of posting that.

Thank you.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
I think rape should be able to get the death penalty as well. i'm not saying all cases of it, but i think in some cases it should be.

all i know is that if someone raped my gf, or my sister, or any girl that i know ... i would want to kill them. i am not saying i would, because i sure as hell would not, but i would seriously want to hurt them.

You've got much better willpower than I probably would.

 

[Ogg]

Originally posted by: allisolm
That is truly horrible. I hope they have enough to send him away for a very long time. Even that won't make it right. Nothing can and nothing can explain the why of it. My thoughts and prayers go out to those girls. It's good that they have friends who care as much as you do.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
sex in this country has such a 'look but don't touch,' 'we'll hint at it, but never address it,' 'taboo' attitude that it's no wonder that people like this who have been told how wrong sex is their whole life never get a healthy chance to express that emotion without resorting to such a vile crime.

First of all, my condolences...rapists are one of those groups of criminals I think need to be executed in the most painful manner possible. Dipped very slowly into molten copper, feet first, seems like a good idea. I honestly don't know how people can be so warped they do things like that, it makes me fvcking sick.

Rape is about power, not sex. Most rapists have trouble with women/life in general, and they become frustrated because a "real man" is supposed to be able to get a girl whenever the urge hits. Obviously we all have varying success with the opposite sex, but rapists usually have much worse than average success. The thing that seperates them from the ugly, awkward guy who just can't get any is that rapists are unable to deal with their feelings of un-manliness.

The problem isn't that sex is a taboo in our culture, the problem is that not everyone can be a ladies man, even though society tells us that's exactly what men are supposed to be. Men who have trouble getting women aren't frustrated just because they aren't dealing with their sexual emotions, they are frustrated more because it's considered very unmanly not to be able to get the girl, even if they don't realize it. But most normal people accept that, it takes a person disconnected from reality to break the barrier between what they want and what they can have.

And what the hell IS your solution anyways? Sex is something between two (or more) consenting people, if a girl doesn't want to have sex, that's not a "problem", that's her choice. Are you saying sex should be more casual? Maybe so, but *I* sure as hell am not going to tell women (or men for that matter) how they should feel about sex. The real solution is to have people accept who they are instead of feeling un-manly because of it.

^^^ Saves me the words.

My condolences. He deserves every mal- that will come his way.

 

[vood0g]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
chop off his gonads. and throw him in jail to be reciprocated upon. never should have had a chance to be a repeat offender...

 

Sorry to hear this, maybe with their faith they can be at peace sooner than later. I seriously dont know what id do if a family member or SO was raped, one of the worst things imo.

 

[TitanDiddly]

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...capital+AND+punishment

:thumbsdown:

 

[DougK62]

Guys - buy the women in your life pepper spray! I can't stress it enough. Do it now and teach them how to use it!

Sorry to hear, Mill. It makes me furious just thinking about it. Large apartment complex? They no doubt were making a lot of noise. It really steams my veggies to think someone may have heard something but did nothing.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

grab a gun, find him, kill him. problem solved.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: DougK62
Guys - buy the women in your life pepper spray! I can't stress it enough. Do it now and teach them how to use it!

Sorry to hear, Mill. It makes me furious just thinking about it. Large apartment complex? They no doubt were making a lot of noise. It really steams my veggies to think someone may have heard something but did nothing.

I did. I got her police-issue pepper spray and she couldn't care less whether she carried it with her or not, even though she was being stalked and followed. :|

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
grab a gun, find him, kill him. problem solved.

Gun? Pshah... you don't know how to party, little man! It's much more satisfying using your bare hands.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: DougK62
Guys - buy the women in your life pepper spray! I can't stress it enough. Do it now and teach them how to use it!

Sorry to hear, Mill. It makes me furious just thinking about it. Large apartment complex? They no doubt were making a lot of noise. It really steams my veggies to think someone may have heard something but did nothing.

I did. I got her police-issue pepper spray and she couldn't care less whether she carried it with her or not, even though she was being stalked and followed. :|

Damn that's dumb. If my mom or gf tried some sh!t like that I'd have one of my friends follow and scare the crap out of them. They wouldn't forget it twice...

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: DougK62
Guys - buy the women in your life pepper spray! I can't stress it enough. Do it now and teach them how to use it!

Sorry to hear, Mill. It makes me furious just thinking about it. Large apartment complex? They no doubt were making a lot of noise. It really steams my veggies to think someone may have heard something but did nothing.

I did. I got her police-issue pepper spray and she couldn't care less whether she carried it with her or not, even though she was being stalked and followed. :|

Damn that's dumb. If my mom or gf tried some sh!t like that I'd have one of my friends follow and scare the crap out of them. They wouldn't forget it twice...

I shaved my head, grew a longer goatee and put on my leather jacket. I ate at her restaurant on a regular basis, making sure to do so when he was working and making sure that other friends of hers pointed me out when I was there to him and to seat me in his section of tables. He came to refil my water one of the first few times I was there. I looked up at him, grunted, and said through clenched teeth that if he ever laid a hand on her or harrassed her again, that I would personally find him and give him a reason not to do so again.

From that day, he avoided me like the fvcking plague and started backing off her. :laugh:

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
grab a gun, find him, kill him. problem solved.

Gun? Pshah... you don't know how to party, little man! It's much more satisfying using your bare hands.

What can I say, i'm weak.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
sex in this country has such a 'look but don't touch,' 'we'll hint at it, but never address it,' 'taboo' attitude that it's no wonder that people like this who have been told how wrong sex is their whole life never get a healthy chance to express that emotion without resorting to such a vile crime.

First of all, my condolences...rapists are one of those groups of criminals I think need to be executed in the most painful manner possible. Dipped very slowly into molten copper, feet first, seems like a good idea. I honestly don't know how people can be so warped they do things like that, it makes me fvcking sick.

Rape is about power, not sex. Most rapists have trouble with women/life in general, and they become frustrated because a "real man" is supposed to be able to get a girl whenever the urge hits. Obviously we all have varying success with the opposite sex, but rapists usually have much worse than average success. The thing that seperates them from the ugly, awkward guy who just can't get any is that rapists are unable to deal with their feelings of un-manliness.

The problem isn't that sex is a taboo in our culture, the problem is that not everyone can be a ladies man, even though society tells us that's exactly what men are supposed to be. Men who have trouble getting women aren't frustrated just because they aren't dealing with their sexual emotions, they are frustrated more because it's considered very unmanly not to be able to get the girl, even if they don't realize it. But most normal people accept that, it takes a person disconnected from reality to break the barrier between what they want and what they can have.

And what the hell IS your solution anyways? Sex is something between two (or more) consenting people, if a girl doesn't want to have sex, that's not a "problem", that's her choice. Are you saying sex should be more casual? Maybe so, but *I* sure as hell am not going to tell women (or men for that matter) how they should feel about sex. The real solution is to have people accept who they are instead of feeling un-manly because of it.

I believe you hit the nail on the head.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Phocas
Sorry to hear this, maybe with their faith they can be at peace sooner than later. I seriously dont know what id do if a family member or SO was raped, one of the worst things imo.

I've had an aunt and a couple GFs that have gone through it. I really doubt I'd stop to think twice about killing the responsible party if it ever happened to one of my daughters.