I can't think of a more stupidly entitled group than...

[Newbian]

The group that complains about them is almost as bad...

 

[spacejamz]

Who cares?

Or rather, who has time to watch movies?

The people who use more than 5GB of data on their cell phones a month and then bitch about being throttled?? LOL

 

[Zodiark1593]

...Videophile pirates whining about how the super popular ~2GB 1080p Bluray rips doesn't look and sound as good as the actual Bluray on their so-claimed $10,000 AV setups. Calling it "complete crap" even though it is still a million times above Youtube "HD" quality. Let's forget about how this whole thing is piracy to begin with.

Second place goes to a related crowd insisting XVID videos because they like running ancient hardware. Dude, it's fvcking 2010s. Get along with the times. WTH you mean by you can't afford a $40 BD player and don't like better quality per bitrate?

Agreed, bringing a 25 GB video down to ~2 GB will almost certainly incur a hit of some kind visually. The only times I can really complain about video is when it looks like it came out of a 2005 cell phone (low res+ insane lossy compression). Solid quality, 640x480 I find is plenty watchable and even 640x320.

 

[Howard]

Trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, are you?

 

[gorcorps]

If they knew as much as they claimed, then they'd be ripping their own stuff exactly as they want it. That's what I do. Of course you can only do this if you actually get the movie...

 

[SheHateMe]

Why would anyone with half a brain pull a 1080P movie thats 2GB? That's a red flag right there.

Unless its a TV show.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

...Videophile pirates whining about how the super popular ~2GB 1080p Bluray rips doesn't look and sound as good as the actual Bluray on their so-claimed $10,000 AV setups. Calling it "complete crap" even though it is still a million times above Youtube "HD" quality. Let's forget about how this whole thing is piracy to begin with.

Second place goes to a related crowd insisting XVID videos because they like running ancient hardware. Dude, it's fvcking 2010s. Get along with the times. WTH you mean by you can't afford a $40 BD player and don't like better quality per bitrate?

I feel the same way about people posting pictures of their [so called] home theaters and it is nothing more than a flat screen TV in the family room.

 

[SheHateMe]

I feel the same way about people posting pictures of their [so called] home theaters and it is nothing more than a flat screen TV in the family room.

Hey, you gotta start somewhere. Some people are proud of the little bit of stuff they have.

I actually saw someone post a photo of their HT and it was one of those huge old school HDTVs with a nice AV system attached.

Just a work in progress.. lol


Me, I'm starting with a Panasonic ZT60...before I invested in any AV stuff, I am getting that first.

Already got the media server and HTPC.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Meh, I have some xvid rips of Satyajit Ray movies which haven't been restored/released to bluray yet or not region 1 dvd. They look OK, a lot better than the VCD versions.

They look like shit compared to my criterion "Music Room", but, it's to be expected.

 

[shortylickens]

 

[Anarchist420]

youtube videos look terrible when I watch them but it generally doesn't bother me. Perhaps the encoder means more than i thought.

 

[Ns1]

nonsense, people don't actually PIRATE stuff. They just have these files on their computers that LOOK like pirated stuff.

 

[destrekor]

Hey, you gotta start somewhere. Some people are proud of the little bit of stuff they have.

I actually saw someone post a photo of their HT and it was one of those huge old school HDTVs with a nice AV system attached.

Just a work in progress.. lol


Me, I'm starting with a Panasonic ZT60...before I invested in any AV stuff, I am getting that first.

Already got the media server and HTPC.

For where I'm at right now - I am extremely satisfied with my "home theater."

Panny ST60 (50" - larger would be better, but a good size for the room and, more importantly, budget) with an "entry-level" Marantz receiver and decent 5 speaker set and Paradigm 10" sub.

All in an apartment, where I fear even exercising this audio setup beyond 50% at times. And that sub is at like, 25% or thereabouts, lol.


if you don't have that ZT60 series display yet, just you wait - it's almost literally drool-inducing.
When viewed at night or in a light-controlled viewing environment (aka very dark around the display) - it's got the most gorgeous, inky black levels. Even on its own, I think it can win some hearts and minds... couple it with a halfway decent audio setup, and you're gonna be glued to that display.

I've got a cablecard-fed HTPC connected and TV is wonderful - but streaming through the Roku3 more often than not bests what the cable feed can provide, which is disappointing.

 

[angminas]

Analogy massive fail. It's not like the car sitting in your driveway that you're keeping one of, for yourself, to use.

You designed and built the car and you're trying to sell it and others like it. The availability of a free copy diminishes the market value of your product, which takes money out of your pocket. Pirates gain the benefits of your labor and risk without giving you anything in return.

And, since it's YOUR car, you can ask whatever price you want for it. A hundred dollars? A billion dollars? Free? It's your choice, not theirs, regardless of whether they think you'll make more money in the end or not.

 

[IGBT]

they are too cheap to bother ripping..only to end up with a ink based burn if you go thru the time / trouble.

 

[xj0hnx]

If they knew as much as they claimed, then they'd be ripping their own stuff exactly as they want it. That's what I do. Of course you can only do this if you actually get the movie...

Not really, you can download full 1:1 BD, usually in the same places you get the rips, of course downloading 25-40GB just to rip it to a 4-10GB file would be silly.

 

[rh71]

I watch on my 27" monitor, not some huge 60" screen (who has time to lounge around like that? ) so I will take anything that is only around 1GB in size for a 2hr flick.

 

[SheHateMe]

if you don't have that ZT60 series display yet, just you wait - it's almost literally drool-inducing.
When viewed at night or in a light-controlled viewing environment (aka very dark around the display) - it's got the most gorgeous, inky black levels. Even on its own, I think it can win some hearts and minds... couple it with a halfway decent audio setup, and you're gonna be glued to that display.

I've got a cablecard-fed HTPC connected and TV is wonderful - but streaming through the Roku3 more often than not bests what the cable feed can provide, which is disappointing.

I don't have it yet, but I am savin' up! I just hope that Panasonic doesn't run out of stock before I get a chance to get one, they are leaving the Plasma business in 2014.

You designed and built the car and you're trying to sell it and others like it. The availability of a free copy diminishes the market value of your product, which takes money out of your pocket. Pirates gain the benefits of your labor and risk without giving you anything in return.

And, since it's YOUR car, you can ask whatever price you want for it. A hundred dollars? A billion dollars? Free? It's your choice, not theirs, regardless of whether they think you'll make more money in the end or not.

Ya, people keep saying that and then the movie companies report their earnings for the year......practically unscathed by Piracy.

 

[EliteRetard]

Ya, people keep saying that and then the movie companies report their earnings for the year......practically unscathed by Piracy.

Hasn't it been proven that pirates increase sales? And pirates themselves purchase much more than those who do not?

I think many pirates are practical people who just want the companies to be reasonable and give us modern options to preview, purchase, and own product. The flat refusal to get with the digital age and the extreme lock down of legal goods to the detriment of legal buyers practically forces piracy.

I've had to do that myself. Can't get a legal disk to work in a legal disk player? Pirate it.
Just bought a legal game with some shitty DRM that prevents you from playing? Pirate it.

Certainly there are some who pirate completely illegally with no intent to ever support the pirated product...but I think the majority of pirates are out there by necessity. Simply making a digital copy of movies or music you purchased legally is pirating by law (breaking the DRM)...so many of you "holier than thou" are just as guilty as the rest of us.

 

[Ns1]

Certainly there are some who pirate completely illegally with no intent to ever support the pirated product...but I think the majority of pirates are out there by necessity. Simply making a digital copy of movies or music you purchased legally is pirating by law (breaking the DRM)...so many of you "holier than thou" are just as guilty as the rest of us.

fucking bullshit. People pirate because free > not free.

 

[EliteRetard]

fucking bullshit. People pirate because free > not free.

So you have no ripped/converted/copied product stored on your PC laptop tablet or phone?
You've never used an unofficial option to fix a legal game, movie, or damaged disk?
You've never borrowed anything from anyone?

Any of those makes you a pirate.
You didn't pay for those rights.

Don't try the bullshit answer that "it's different".
Petty theft or murder you're still a criminal.

Yes some of these are pathetic stupid things that shouldn't be an issue...but the point is the industry has a bunch of stupid shit laws and devices that makes many people a pirate even if they legally paid for the product.

No matter how much you deny it I can almost certainly say you have pirated something sometime in your life.

 

[Ns1]

No matter how much you deny it I can almost certainly say you have pirated something sometime in your life.

yes, and I didn't do it because of some legit reason. I did it because free > not free.

I'm sure if you go hit up any torrent or iso site, you will find a large number of pirates. I find it incredibly unlikely, damn near impossible, that these pirates are downloading shit because they bought (lol) a legit bluray and got hosed by DRM.


I actually don't mind pirates that are upfront about it. It's the "I DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING BECAUSE LIKE FUCK DRM" pirates that I hate.

 

[purbeast0]

Hasn't it been proven that pirates increase sales? And pirates themselves purchase much more than those who do not?

I think many pirates are practical people who just want the companies to be reasonable and give us modern options to preview, purchase, and own product. The flat refusal to get with the digital age and the extreme lock down of legal goods to the detriment of legal buyers practically forces piracy.

I've had to do that myself. Can't get a legal disk to work in a legal disk player? Pirate it.
Just bought a legal game with some shitty DRM that prevents you from playing? Pirate it.

Certainly there are some who pirate completely illegally with no intent to ever support the pirated product...but I think the majority of pirates are out there by necessity. Simply making a digital copy of movies or music you purchased legally is pirating by law (breaking the DRM)...so many of you "holier than thou" are just as guilty as the rest of us.

your name is extremely fitting.

 

[EliteRetard]

yes, and I didn't do it because of some legit reason. I did it because free > not free.

I'm sure if you go hit up any torrent or iso site, you will find a large number of pirates. I find it incredibly unlikely, damn near impossible, that these pirates are downloading shit because they bought (lol) a legit bluray and got hosed by DRM.


I actually don't mind pirates that are upfront about it. It's the "I DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING BECAUSE LIKE FUCK DRM" pirates that I hate.

Certainly if people are willing to steal they are willing to lie.
I don't know why that would bother you so.

So you are an admitted pirate, and clearly have more experience than I in this field. Perhaps there is a large active community of fully illegal pirates I don't know.

What I do know is that converting a purchased movie or music into another format for another device is pirating. With the other examples I gave and tons more I can be fairly certain that most have indeed pirated something at some point. I think that means the large majority are honest people.

I'll admit I have pirated, but not because free > not free.
Here's an actual example:

Back in the day when we actually had DVD games I purchased Mech Warrior 4, it's expansion, and the Mech packs. Upon installation I found the expansion disk to not function. After talking to Microsoft about it they agreed I had a faulty disk and sent me another one free. While that disk did indeed work, I could never get any of the Mech packs to work. Microsoft insisted I had an illegal copy of the game and refused to help. Since I now apparently had an illegal version I went and found a hacked version that worked fine.

 

[Ns1]

So you are an admitted pirate, and clearly have more experience than I in this field. Perhaps there is a large active community of fully illegal pirates I don't know.

Clearly I have more experience than you in this field, so why are you trying to argue over shit that you have no idea about?

The "I ONLY PIRATE BECAUSE I HAD TO" guys are the vocal minority.