I can't eat anymore!

[BlackTigers]

I've been on Starting Strength for about three weeks...and I figured in that time...I'd gain at least a pound or two.

Weighing at the same time every morning, I've gained .25 of a pound. In three weeks.

My lifts are still increasing at a nice rate, but I'm having a lot of trouble putting mass on.

My maintenance is about 3kcals, and I've been eating about 5kcals a day. This is hard.

I guess maybe my LBM is increasing as my bf% drops slowly, but I don't know...I feel bloated all day when I eat like this....which I could live with if it paid off at the scales.

Any tips, or good sources of food jam packed with calories? And not fast food. I gave that shit up.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

I've been on Starting Strength for about three weeks...and I figured in that time...I'd gain at least a pound or two.

Weighing at the same time every morning, I've gained .25 of a pound. In three weeks.

My lifts are still increasing at a nice rate, but I'm having a lot of trouble putting mass on.

My maintenance is about 3kcals, and I've been eating about 5kcals a day. This is hard.

I guess maybe my LBM is increasing as my bf% drops slowly, but I don't know...I feel bloated all day when I eat like this....which I could live with if it paid off at the scales.

Any tips, or good sources of food jam packed with calories? And not fast food. I gave that shit up.

How old are you, how much do you weight, and what's your height? Are you tracking your 5k calorie intake on a website? Why don't you go with the gallon of milk a day approach? It's way easier to drink your calories than to eat them. And it's doubtful that your body fat is dropping if you're taking in 5000 calories a day. On top of that, weighing yourself, unless you do something like a 5-day average, doesn't show a trend unless you measure it under the same conditions at the same time each day. Personally, my weight can shift 6 pounds at any given time of the day.

 

[BlackTigers]

How old are you, how much do you weight, and what's your height? Are you tracking your 5k calorie intake on a website? Why don't you go with the gallon of milk a day approach? It's way easier to drink your calories than to eat them. And it's doubtful that your body fat is dropping if you're taking in 5000 calories a day. On top of that, weighing yourself, unless you do something like a 5-day average, doesn't show a trend unless you measure it under the same conditions at the same time each day. Personally, my weight can shift 6 pounds at any given time of the day.

18.
5'9"
153.25lbs

I'm starting that today. Half a gallon down! Just milk makes me feel like shit. I'm a little guy, eating all this is harddddd.

By weighing myself, I do it once a week. Every Wednesday, 7AM, after my morning toilet visit. Same conditions, on a calibrated scale (it's at the gym...one of the balance ones).

And I usually just track it with a piece of paper in a journal that I keep. I just read the labels...and I use FitDay to get the calories for anything without a label.

 

[brikis98]

How are you tracking calories? Are you using an actual website and measuring portions... or just estimating?

 

[SociallyChallenged]

18.
5'9"
153.25lbs

I'm starting that today. Half a gallon down! Just milk makes me feel like shit. I'm a little guy, eating all this is harddddd.

By weighing myself, I do it once a week. Every Wednesday, 7AM, after my morning toilet visit. Same conditions, on a calibrated scale (it's at the gym...one of the balance ones).

And I usually just track it with a piece of paper in a journal that I keep. I just read the labels...and I use FitDay to get the calories for anything without a label.

Are you weighing and measuring everything you put into your mouth to an exact amount? If you're not, you're not eating 5000 calories. I can guarantee it.

It's not that hard to eat. I went from 5'8", 140 to 160 by eating 3200-3400 calories a day. I was 18 when I did the bulk as well. I measured everything exactly. I thought I was eating way more before I started taking measurements of my food. The milk will help. Also keep in mind that if you drank less/more, used the restroom, ate, etc, your weight would be effected.

 

[surfsatwerk]

18.
5'9"
153.25lbs

I'm starting that today. Half a gallon down! Just milk makes me feel like shit. I'm a little guy, eating all this is harddddd.

By weighing myself, I do it once a week. Every Wednesday, 7AM, after my morning toilet visit. Same conditions, on a calibrated scale (it's at the gym...one of the balance ones).

And I usually just track it with a piece of paper in a journal that I keep. I just read the labels...and I use FitDay to get the calories for anything without a label.

You need to eat more stuff without labels. Spend your off days cooking meat, many pounds of meat. I'm a big fan of pork butt and butter roasted chicken, but to each their own.

http://70sbig.com/

Read the posts on this site if you're having trouble staying motivated to eat.

 

[BlackTigers]

Are you weighing and measuring everything you put into your mouth to an exact amount? If you're not, you're not eating 5000 calories. I can guarantee it.

It's not that hard to eat. I went from 5'8", 140 to 160 by eating 3200-3400 calories a day. I was 18 when I did the bulk as well. I measured everything exactly. I thought I was eating way more before I started taking measurements of my food. The milk will help. Also keep in mind that if you drank less/more, used the restroom, ate, etc, your weight would be effected.

My portions are very, very generous when I eat. I'll go get my journal later so i can show you what I usually eat....it's hovering around 5k a day.

FWIW, I've been running 2.5-3 miles six times a week, and biking too.. I have noooo idea how much that's burning off.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

My portions are very, very generous when I eat. I'll go get my journal later so i can show you what I usually eat....it's hovering around 5k a day.

FWIW, I've been running 2.5-3 miles six times a week, and biking too.. I have noooo idea how much that's burning off.

Does that mean you're not measuring things? I ate what I thought were "very, very generous" portions that only added up to around 3000 calories a day. You need to measure everything to a tee. If you can't gain weight after that, then you can come here with a problem

Your activity levels probably don't burn anything over 600-700 calories so if you were actually eating 5000 calories, you'd be gaining a lot of weight.

 

[KoolDrew]

I doubt you're eating 5k calories a day. Really measure everything you eat. Also, is there a reason you're doing so much cardio?

 

[BlackTigers]

I doubt you're eating 5k calories a day. Really measure everything you eat. Also, is there a reason you're doing so much cardio?

Ill measure a little better tomorrow...but I'm eating non stop.

No reason, but I'm kinda just getting back into better shape...and my stamina is increasing very quickly with all the running I've been doing.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I had trouble gaining weight. Four whey protein shakes with a 1/2 gallon of milk a day seems to be fixing that.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Ill measure a little better tomorrow...but I'm eating non stop.

No reason, but I'm kinda just getting back into better shape...and my stamina is increasing very quickly with all the running I've been doing.

When are you doing your cardio? I ask this because, if you're doing cardio right after your lifting, you're actually inhibiting hypertrophy. Endurance exercise after a resistance workout inhibits the mechanisms that induce hypertrophy (AKT -> mTOR). You get stronger due to neuromuscular adaptations, especially in the first 4-6 weeks. Afterwards, strength is dominantly a function of hypertrophy. The way to avoid this is to train resistance training one day and endurance training the next. It only inhibits hypertrophy for a certain amount of time. However, research shows that you can cross train every other day and gain benefits of both exercise types.

 

[BlackTigers]

Cardio's usually in the morning, after I wake up. I eat a shake and run my ass off.

I usually lift later, after a couple meals. Sometimes at night, sometimes after class in the PM.

If I'm doing that wrong....feel free to let me know. I know how to lift, I know how to run....but I don't know how to mix them correctly, haha.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Cardio's usually in the morning, after I wake up. I eat a shake and run my ass off.

I usually lift later, after a couple meals. Sometimes at night, sometimes after class in the PM.

If I'm doing that wrong....feel free to let me know. I know how to lift, I know how to run....but I don't know how to mix them correctly, haha.

Hm, doing cardio before weightlifting at any point in the day is usually a bad idea. Since running itself tears muscles and weakens them, lifting afterward with a heavy load makes failure and injury more likely. Personally, I'd try to lift in the mornings and run at night. Or, I'd do do lifting MWF and running TThS. I'd definitely stick with doing weightlifting first in the day though. And keep eating. If I wasn't always disgustingly full, I wasn't eating enough to bulk.

 

[sherrylouz]

Walk 20-30 minutes daily after your last meal. These will help you to speed your metabolism up before the food has a chance to get settled in and lower your body fat storage.

 

[Kaido]

Drink liquid protein shakes between meals. It's easier to fit a lot of liquid in when you already have a lot of food in your gut.

 

[TallBill]

5k is a lot. I was at 6k in Iraq @ 225 and it took a LOT of work. But you can take weight gainer + milk + bananas + ground oats + peanut butter and easily make a 2000 calorie "shake".

 

[allies]

5k is a lot. I was at 6k in Iraq @ 225 and it took a LOT of work. But you can take weight gainer + milk + bananas + ground oats + peanut butter and easily make a 2000 calorie "shake".

After I run my marathon in may I'm going to be doing this. Sound like an AWESOME snack

 

[TallBill]

After I run my marathon in may I'm going to be doing this. Sound like an AWESOME snack

Yeah, it just turns into a bit of work. I'd grind a whole oatmeal tub up in a coffee grinder ahead of time. You can use protein powder or weight gainer to give it a somewhat chocolate flavor. I'd add in hershey's syrup to give it more

 

[Koing]

FWIW, I've been running 2.5-3 miles six times a week, and biking too.. I have noooo idea how much that's burning off.

- this is why your not gaining an y weight or a reasonable amount of muscle. Your doing too much cv. With things like 'running my ass off' you won't be stacking on the muscle.

How much protein are you taking? Carbs? Fats?

Measure your weight daily and if by 7 days you can't gain half a lb YOUR NOT ENOUGH ENOUGH or your doing too much running/ cv. Stack on 10% more calories and keep going. It's simple but most people don't track anything 'properly'. If by 7 days your not gaining weight EAT 10% MORE and if that doesn't stack on 10% more again and you WILL REACH a limit to where you will gain weight.

BUT all of that cv is hammering your weight gain!!!!

Koing

 

[Koing]

FWIW, I've been running 2.5-3 miles six times a week, and biking too.. I have noooo idea how much that's burning off.

- this is why your not gaining an y weight or a reasonable amount of muscle. Your doing too much cv. With things like 'running my ass off' you won't be stacking on the muscle.

How much protein are you taking? Carbs? Fats?

Measure your weight daily and if by 7 days you can't gain half a lb YOUR NOT ENOUGH ENOUGH or your doing too much running/ cv. Stack on 10% more calories and keep going. It's simple but most people don't track anything 'properly'. If by 7 days your not gaining weight EAT 10% MORE and if that doesn't stack on 10% more again and you WILL REACH a limit to where you will gain weight.

BUT all of that cv is hammering your weight gain!!!!

I'm 25 and can gain weight pretty easily. I just eat more and track my weight. If I'm not gaining I eat more. I did find it harder to gain when I was 16-18 though.

Koing

 

[Titan]

You need to come to my place on a sunday for what I call "adventures in gluttony!" My friends and I game all day every sunday, and it's weird because we're all big guys, the smallest of us is like 6'0, 260 pounds. We each pitch in 20 bucks and get enough food for 2 meals that day.

One time we ordered 86 dollars worth of dollar menu food from wendy's. For 5 people. That was a fun trip to the restaurant. Or there was the time I took the younger rookies of our group to a chinese buffet and then to wendy's right after since it was next door. I don't have a wendy's near where I live so it's a treat, but now that's a good thing.

We started doing pot luck and one week my friend who likes to cook made some rigatoni. He spent 2 days preparing it, cooking a ton of meat and spices. he works at a health foods store so and had to go to work to get a food-grade bucket to hold it all. We weighed it on the bathroom scale and it was 22 pounds of rigatoni, after he ate some with his wife. And it was so greasy that 4 ounces of it would fill you up, but it was soo good.

Is it any wonder I got fat? Actually I tended to overeat out of addictive behavior, including it was a comfort/coping mechanism for me.

Note, this is called dirty bulking and I don't recommend it! But if you need to learn how to eat, find a fat man!

 

[Titan]

Double post action? go me!

 

[surfsatwerk]

find a fat man!

My tubby senses were tingling and drew me to this thread.