I can't decide! 970 vs 390 vs PS4

[happy medium]

b stock evga gtx 970 for 209$?
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-2972-RX

 

[tential]

b stock evga gtx 970 for 209$?
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-2972-RX

OP should purchase 1.... or even two!

 

[Aolish]

Hi all, believe it or not I still haven't bought it yet. But thanks to the grace of God the 390 went back on sale again and I think I am now ready to buy it. I would really like to get the XFX R9 390 version of the GPU because of the feedbacks. Only 9 one egg ratings at the time of this writing! I'm trying to minimize my chances on a defect as best as possible and thought this was it. The problem is when I looked at the power req. The minimum is an 750W and the recommended is 850W! In short I was taken by surprise at what I saw. I only have the following PSU on my sig and I'm not sure if it'll handle it. I always heard keeping your PSU at full load isn't a good thing. Can anyone clarify or recommend a 390 GPU from another vender that has lesser power req? Thanks in advance!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150729

 

[littleg]

750W is just plain wrong. You could probably run two 390s on that power supply.

 

[Mercennarius]

Yup that is wrong. I have the Sapphire 390X and it's listed at only consuming up to 375W:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=D40475DB-8BD0-40F6-8C33-F12D63272AEC&lang=eng

 

[littleg]

That's full system load. From [H].

http://hardocp.com/article/2015/12/22/asus_r9_390_strix_directcu_iii_video_card_review/10

 

[Aolish]

750W is just plain wrong. You could probably run two 390s on that power supply.

Really? I just checked their official website and its states the same thing. This is disappointing to say the least, I should of paid more attention to the PSU req from the beginning or else I wouldn't of spent all this time in getting something that I couldn't get. lol

That's full system load. From [H].

http://hardocp.com/article/2015/12/22/asus_r9_390_strix_directcu_iii_video_card_review/10

That seems to be from a different vendor. Perhaps I should search for that, but then again its probably not on sale. What is it about the XFX version that makes it so power hungry other than the fact that its OC'd.

EDIT: So I checked Neweggs website on that card and it seems to have a Power Consumption: up to 300W. Okay I am now officially confused. Can anyone explain whats going on? D:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121974

 

[MeldarthX]

amd tends to properly estimate their power and Nvidia under estimates their power.

390 is 220w card roughly so they'll over estimate what you need to run it. If you have a solid build 500w psu you're fine

 

[Erenhardt]

I sport OCed r9 290 and OCed FX8300 cpu on XFX XTR 550W PSU. No problems at all.

 

[littleg]

XFX's website is simply wrong. There's no way a 390 would need a 750W PSU minimum unless they strapped an overclocked 6600K, a 970 and a space heater to it.

 

[Aolish]

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Found a useful link that might prove useful to some people that might not know about this. But according to this chart the 390 consumes 650W. This is of course I'm assuming that nothing else is connected to the computer (except for maybe the bare essentials that allow them to bench) and only the GPU itself??? I'm not sure. But with the other components that are consuming power in my rig than I'm guessing the 750W minimum is the extra head room they put in for "just in case purposes". I'm not to sure about that 850W, I wonder if its due in part of the OC of the card. Anyhow it looks like I have no choice but to go with a GTX 970 since that is 500W according to real hard tech. What do you guys think, wow I'm back to the drawing board now.

XFX's website is simply wrong. There's no way a 390 would need a 750W PSU minimum unless they strapped an overclocked 6600K, a 970 and a space heater to it.

I sport OCed r9 290 and OCed FX8300 cpu on XFX XTR 550W PSU. No problems at all.

I really hope you guys are right, it'd be great if someone on this forum that has a R9 390 with a 750W or lesser PSU to confirm that this is true or not while the sale is still active.

 

[96Firebird]

What is your PSU right now? I think you'll be fine...

http://hardocp.com/article/2015/09/...ipation_8gb_video_card_review/10#.VqDyOVIYEXg

http://lanoc.org/review/video-cards/7106-xfx-r9-390-double-dissipation-core-edition?showall=&start=7

 

[littleg]

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Found a useful link that might prove useful to some people that might not know about this. But according to this chart the 390 consumes 650W.

That chart lists the recommended PSU wattage, not card consumption. Even then it's way overstated.

 

[NTMBK]

I still say buy a console. You can get a Wii U with bundled Mario Kart 8 for that sort of money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3G63ES4716&cm_re=wii_u-_-68-100-178-_-Product

 

[Headfoot]

no dude, just stop. It does not consume 650w. You will be 100% fine on 550w or better. Even quality 450w supplies will be enough

 

[cyclohexane]

no Duden, just stop. It does not consume 650w. You will be 100% fine on 550w or better. Even quality 450w supplies will be enough

This, I have a 390, and the power consumption is reasonable. The op must have no experience in building, if he thinks he needs a 850w psu to run the 390.

 

[MrTeal]

That realhardtech chart is a little overblown. They recommend 1000W for 290 CF, The system in my sig pulls 950-1000W from the wall under P95 and Furmark simultaneously. That's a DC load around 850W, including 20W for a pump and lord knows what for 14 fans. Not only is a Prime+Furmark load way over any kind of gaming load, but those 290s @ 1150/+75mV will pull way more than a stock 390, and my hex-core @ 4.5GHz is going to pull a lot more power than a 3770.

 

[Techhog]

That's full system load. From [H].

http://hardocp.com/article/2015/12/22/asus_r9_390_strix_directcu_iii_video_card_review/10

To be completely fair, that 970 is significantly more power hungry than any other model. It uses more power than most 980s.

 

[RussianSensation]

Anyhow it looks like I have no choice but to go with a GTX 970 since that is 500W according to real hard tech. What do you guys think, wow I'm back to the drawing board now.

OEM/manufacturer PSU recommendations are conservative to account for crappy $20-30 750W OEM PSUs and to protect the company from lawsuits. This is because some 500-550W PSU are of much higher quality than 650-750W units from a budget brand.

Total system power usage in games with a 390 is nowhere near 550W.

Prices on R9 390X are also starting to come down. XFX R9 390X is $340 after rebate and $20 gift card.

 

[Zodiark1593]

With a lot of games that were once only on console or handhelds getting PC versions, I find myself funneling more to my PC and less to my consoles. There will be a point where all that must have Japanese titles are available on PC, and I can't wait.

No kidding there, seems Japanese devs are really taking a long hard look at the PC platform.

Tales of Symphonia will hit Steam quite shortly, an awesome game btw, Tales of Zestria is there already, not as good as Symphonia looking at reviews, but still quite decent. One of my favorites, Valkyria Chronicles is also on Steam and looks absolutely gorgeous.

Really hoping Sega throws Project Diva onto the PC as well with their next release too.

If you're a fan of jRPGs, that gpu you've got is way more than enough btw.

 

[2is]

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Found a useful link that might prove useful to some people that might not know about this. But according to this chart the 390 consumes 650W. This is of course I'm assuming that nothing else is connected to the computer (except for maybe the bare essentials that allow them to bench) and only the GPU itself??? I'm not sure. But with the other components that are consuming power in my rig than I'm guessing the 750W minimum is the extra head room they put in for "just in case purposes". I'm not to sure about that 850W, I wonder if its due in part of the OC of the card. Anyhow it looks like I have no choice but to go with a GTX 970 since that is 500W according to real hard tech. What do you guys think, wow I'm back to the drawing board now.





I really hope you guys are right, it'd be great if someone on this forum that has a R9 390 with a 750W or lesser PSU to confirm that this is true or not while the sale is still active.

How many people and sources that have actually tested the cards do you need for you to be convinced that the card doesn't need 750 or even 650 watts? Take a deep breath, reset, and read what everyone is telling you. Or you can just panic and incorrectly think "omg I can't believe this won't run"

 

[tweakboy]

None of the above...

 

[xthetenth]

I've got a 750 W supply for my system with a 290 in it, and that's because I'm trying to hit 50% utilization under load. If I actually needed to supply that much my ~540W UPS with the system and three monitors plugged in might have something to say about it. It hasn't yet.