I can't believe what I read this morning

[aphex]

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: astrosfan90

Originally posted by: aphex

And to those who say walk? Are you kidding me? It's not like you have two weeks before a hurricane hits to start walking. You have a day, at best. Having lived in FL for the past 13 years, the forecast tracks are fairly inaccurate. For instance, when Katrina came over florida, i was supposed to wake up with it overhead the next morning, instead it was beautiful out as the storm jogged south. My point being, even right before a storm hits, you really dont always know where to go. And saying they have legs and could have walked is just ignorant.

/agree

If they'd have walked on the I-10 bridge to Baton Rouge, and the storm veered west and obliterated Baton Rouge, then what? We'd have people all over the country flaming them still. "OMG they r teh dumbzors!1!! they WALKED into a hurricane with no shelter!1!!" You all realize that Katrina was hundreds of miles across, right?

Should they have heeded the orders if they could have? Yes. Do I understand why they did not? Absolutely. I can't count the number of hurricanes I've ridden out in my lifetime, and can't begin to remember how many hit Louisiana every year. How many times have evacuations been ordered, and folks left only to find they'd wasted their time?

To those in Florida, how many of you have been ordered to evacuate and did? How many of your neighbors stayed? How many times have you been ordered to evacuate only to have the hurricane miss?

I think it's a tribute to Mayor Nagin that he got as many folks out as he did. I think that I read that something upwards of 80% of the folks in NO evacuated. I think that's an astounding number for a city of half a million with less than two days notice. I can't think of another example of anywhere managing to evacuate that many people under those conditions.

Were these MANDATORY evacuations you ignored?

Of course there will be some who ignore evacuations, my point was that many there HAD NO CHOICE. To suggest that they just simple start walking is crazy, where would they walk to? If you dont have a car and if you don't know anyone nearby to pick you up or travel to, what can you do?

Also, knowing people who were in NO just before the storm (saturday to be specific), many of the basic transportation systems shut down in expectation of the possible storm. Taxi cabs left the city, busses were in many places non-existant since many drivers left, etc...

You dodged my question. There are people that had the means to leave the city and didn't. They ignored a mandatory evecuation. FEMA director isn't talking about those that could not leave. How hard is that to understand?

You seem to not understand my position either, judging by your comments earlier in the thread

If you can't afford to leave by car or other mechanical means during a MANDATORY evacuation, WALK."

 

[treemonkey]

Even if you were in the center of the path it's only 50 miles west to get out of the way.

If you have enough energy to steal tv's and shoot at ambulances then you have enough energy to shift yourslef 50 miles. 99% of the people in NO have no excuse for being there.

They are costing hard working tax payers money because they are just too lazy to save themselves.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: Taggart
If you can't afford to leave by car or other mechanical means during a MANDATORY evacuation, WALK. FEMA Director is saying what a lot of Americans feel.

WALK where? Let's say you walk at a speed of 4 mph (that's fast to most people). Let's say you manage to sustain that for 12 hours before needing to rest. (most people aren't going to make those speeds for that long). That's 48 miles. Now where are you? Oh, you're on a highway over a marsh with no shelter anywhere around just as a Category 4 hurricane (far wider than 48 miles) washes over.

If you've ever driven through Louisiana, you'll know that much of the state is a swampland with nothing but raised highway between cities. If you did not have transportation other than your feet and/or a bicycle, you had nowhere to go.

 

[frankgomez75]

For all the ppl saying you could have walked so I don't feel sorry for you.... you all are nothing more than a bunch of disqusting low life sick excuses for a human being! :|

I can understand those of you who have no sympathy for the looters... duh! neither do I.

But what the fvck do you do when you have:

*No Car as you rely on public transportation
*No Money for food, hotels, rental cars
*Children.... and they sure as hell can't hitch/hike/walk for long distances
*No friends of family outside the city so nowhere to go
*No Cabs because lots of others were taking them out of town too!
*No Buses.... well HOW THE FVCK do you get to the buses if the public transportation system was shut down 36 hours PRIOR to the hurricane hitting ! Walk?!! Again.... most of these people are not fvckin athletes you idiots!

Oh they could have hitched a ride? really? STFU!
In this day and age.... people are not willing to pick up strangers. I bet most people here would not pick up a black guy dressed in some hip hop gear.... as much sh1t as ppl talk about those type of people on these boards. Fvckin hipocrits! Show me some footage of a white family (most who had the means to leave in their SUV's) picking up their local black family... at least one photo. You prolly won't.

Oh, they could have walked? really? STFU! They would have had to walk 60-100 miles in 1-2 days dumba$$es. Do that with a kid strapped on. Do that when you're not in good shape. Do that when your old. Do that when you grandma or grandpa, mother or father can't keep up with you.... then say too bad b1tch, cya!

I wonder what the percentage of people here saying all this have ever come from the ghetto and can ACTUALLY RELATE! Thats what you people who have money and the means always do..... blame them for their situation. You Sick Fvcks.

I know where these people are coming from (NOT THE LOOTERS)... but the ones who fall under the situations I stated above. Most of you talking sh1t... I like to know what city and burough/ghetto your from? And tell me if what I'm saying is bullsh1t or not.

It saddens me that we came together for 9/11 but we can't unite when a tragedy that can possibly be worse than 9/11 hits to poor.

The poor always get the shaft. No? Really? Fvck you.... you haven't been there.. you don't know how hard it is to move up and out of the social class you were born in. If you even took SOCIOLOGY 101 you would know this. You know crap about police harassment, police profiling, poor education system since all the good teachers teach in private schools or better neighborhoods, etc.....

I'm not making an excuse for those that choose to stay even though they had a way out....nor an excuse for the looters.... I'm sympathizing for the ones who as I stated fell under the circumstances I listed above... which are the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE in NEW ORLEAN right now.

 

[Umberger]

Originally posted by: lancestorm
I am NOT disgusted by what he had to say. He is right on track.

People WERE stupid and people DID stay even though it was a MANDATORY EVACUATION. And then these same stupid people complain about no water, no food, no help.... well no sh!t.

I can understand the situation of some people might not enable them to leave. Such as a lack of a car or family out of town, etc. But it is hard to feel a lot of sympathy...

i still feel sympathy for the people that couldn't leave for legit. reasons, and especially all those people in hospitals, etc... but the people that chose to stay for their own personal reasons are reaping the consequences of their decisions.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Don't people have filters on their mouths anymore? WTF!

 

[J0hnny]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
For all the ppl saying you could have walked so I don't feel sorry for you.... you all are nothing more than a bunch of disqusting low life sick excuses for a human being! :|

I can understand those of you who have no sympathy for the looters... duh! neither do I.

But what the fvck do you do when you have:

*No Car as you rely on public transportation
*No Money for food, hotels, rental cars
*Children.... and they sure as hell can't hitch/hike/walk for long distances
*No friends of family outside the city so nowhere to go
*No Cabs because lots of others were taking them out of town too!
*No Buses.... well HOW THE FVCK do you get to the buses if the public transportation system was shut down 36 hours PRIOR to the hurricane hitting ! Walk?!! Again.... most of these people are not fvckin athletes you idiots!

Oh they could have hitched a ride? really? STFU!
In this day and age.... people are not willing to pick up strangers. I bet most people here would not pick up a black guy dressed in some hip hop gear.... as much sh1t as ppl talk about those type of people on these boards. Fvckin hipocrits! Show me some footage of a white family (most who had the means to leave in their SUV's) picking up their local black family... at least one photo. You prolly won't.

Oh, they could have walked? really? STFU! They would have had to walk 60-100 miles in 1-2 days dumba$$es. Do that with a kid strapped on. Do that when you're not in good shape. Do that when your old. Do that when you grandma or grandpa, mother or father can't keep up with you.... then say too bad b1tch, cya!

I wonder what the percentage of people here saying all this have ever come from the ghetto and can ACTUALLY RELATE! Thats what you people who have money and the means always do..... blame them for their situation. You Sick Fvcks.

I know where these people are coming from (NOT THE LOOTERS)... but the ones who fall under the situations I stated above. Most of you talking sh1t... I like to know what city and burough/ghetto your from? And tell me if what I'm saying is bullsh1t or not.

It saddens me that we came together for 9/11 but we can't unite when a tragedy that can possibly be worse than 9/11 hits to poor.

The poor always get the shaft. No? Really? Fvck you.... you haven't been there.. you don't know how hard it is to move up and out of the social class you were born in. If you even took SOCIOLOGY 101 you would know this. You know crap about police harassment, police profiling, poor education system since all the good teachers teach in private schools or better neighborhoods, etc.....

I'm not making an excuse for those that choose to stay even though they had a way out....nor an excuse for the looters.... I'm sympathizing for the ones who as I stated fell under the circumstances I listed above... which are the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE in NEW ORLEAN right now.

I consider myself "well-off" and I agree with you entirely about the weak and poor not being able to make it out. It's such a disgrace how we treat our people and how the system doesn't do anything except keep them poor.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: J0hnny

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
For all the ppl saying you could have walked so I don't feel sorry for you.... you all are nothing more than a bunch of disqusting low life sick excuses for a human being! :|

I can understand those of you who have no sympathy for the looters... duh! neither do I.

But what the fvck do you do when you have:

*No Car as you rely on public transportation
*No Money for food, hotels, rental cars
*Children.... and they sure as hell can't hitch/hike/walk for long distances
*No friends of family outside the city so nowhere to go
*No Cabs because lots of others were taking them out of town too!
*No Buses.... well HOW THE FVCK do you get to the buses if the public transportation system was shut down 36 hours PRIOR to the hurricane hitting ! Walk?!! Again.... most of these people are not fvckin athletes you idiots!

Oh they could have hitched a ride? really? STFU!
In this day and age.... people are not willing to pick up strangers. I bet most people here would not pick up a black guy dressed in some hip hop gear.... as much sh1t as ppl talk about those type of people on these boards. Fvckin hipocrits! Show me some footage of a white family (most who had the means to leave in their SUV's) picking up their local black family... at least one photo. You prolly won't.

Oh, they could have walked? really? STFU! They would have had to walk 60-100 miles in 1-2 days dumba$$es. Do that with a kid strapped on. Do that when you're not in good shape. Do that when your old. Do that when you grandma or grandpa, mother or father can't keep up with you.... then say too bad b1tch, cya!

I wonder what the percentage of people here saying all this have ever come from the ghetto and can ACTUALLY RELATE! Thats what you people who have money and the means always do..... blame them for their situation. You Sick Fvcks.

I know where these people are coming from (NOT THE LOOTERS)... but the ones who fall under the situations I stated above. Most of you talking sh1t... I like to know what city and burough/ghetto your from? And tell me if what I'm saying is bullsh1t or not.

It saddens me that we came together for 9/11 but we can't unite when a tragedy that can possibly be worse than 9/11 hits to poor.

The poor always get the shaft. No? Really? Fvck you.... you haven't been there.. you don't know how hard it is to move up and out of the social class you were born in. If you even took SOCIOLOGY 101 you would know this. You know crap about police harassment, police profiling, poor education system since all the good teachers teach in private schools or better neighborhoods, etc.....

I'm not making an excuse for those that choose to stay even though they had a way out....nor an excuse for the looters.... I'm sympathizing for the ones who as I stated fell under the circumstances I listed above... which are the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE in NEW ORLEAN right now.

I consider myself "well-off" and I agree with you entirely about the weak and poor not being able to make it out. It's such a disgrace how we treat our people and how the system doesn't do anything except keep them poor.

Oh really?

so its "the sytems" fault.

jesus tap dancing christ, get a job.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: DannyLove

If I was poor had no car I would use my two feet or hitch a ride. Darwinism at its best, imo

Not only that...it is said that there were a lot of ppl that did not have transportation... but the gov had access to a state full of school buses that she let just sit there, instead of getting all the state troopers together and have ppl drive those buses around to evcuate ppl.

And i was told that surrounding states offered her assistance before the storm hit, so she could have had them all bused to shreeveport, or texas or something... she did nothing.

the mayor... who i feel really sorry for... said that he ordered that the levees be sand bagged by tuesday and it was not done. who is responsible for that.

i dont know if the ppl are to blame. most of the ppl there are poor and not educated and have very little in life... the news today was saying that since it was so close to the end of the month, a lot of ppl wanted to wait for their welfare checks, so they did not end up homeless and have no money. not trying to be mean, but they do not seem like the best educated ppl on the planet and i can almost understand their not wanting to leave the very little they had.

yes, they are responsible for themselves and should have gotten out when told to... BUT... there should have been a system in place to help take them and get them someplace. they should have not been left to suffer what they have gone thru.

instead of saying "get out and go somewhere" it should have been "get on this bus to shreeveport/batonrouge/texas...etc."

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
For all the ppl saying you could have walked so I don't feel sorry for you.... you all are nothing more than a bunch of disqusting low life sick excuses for a human being! :|

I can understand those of you who have no sympathy for the looters... duh! neither do I.

But what the fvck do you do when you have:

*No Car as you rely on public transportation
*No Money for food, hotels, rental cars
*Children.... and they sure as hell can't hitch/hike/walk for long distances
*No friends of family outside the city so nowhere to go
*No Cabs because lots of others were taking them out of town too!
*No Buses.... well HOW THE FVCK do you get to the buses if the public transportation system was shut down 36 hours PRIOR to the hurricane hitting ! Walk?!! Again.... most of these people are not fvckin athletes you idiots!

Oh they could have hitched a ride? really? STFU!
In this day and age.... people are not willing to pick up strangers. I bet most people here would not pick up a black guy dressed in some hip hop gear.... as much sh1t as ppl talk about those type of people on these boards. Fvckin hipocrits! Show me some footage of a white family (most who had the means to leave in their SUV's) picking up their local black family... at least one photo. You prolly won't.

Oh, they could have walked? really? STFU! They would have had to walk 60-100 miles in 1-2 days dumba$$es. Do that with a kid strapped on. Do that when you're not in good shape. Do that when your old. Do that when you grandma or grandpa, mother or father can't keep up with you.... then say too bad b1tch, cya!

I wonder what the percentage of people here saying all this have ever come from the ghetto and can ACTUALLY RELATE! Thats what you people who have money and the means always do..... blame them for their situation. You Sick Fvcks.

I know where these people are coming from (NOT THE LOOTERS)... but the ones who fall under the situations I stated above. Most of you talking sh1t... I like to know what city and burough/ghetto your from? And tell me if what I'm saying is bullsh1t or not.

It saddens me that we came together for 9/11 but we can't unite when a tragedy that can possibly be worse than 9/11 hits to poor.

The poor always get the shaft. No? Really? Fvck you.... you haven't been there.. you don't know how hard it is to move up and out of the social class you were born in. If you even took SOCIOLOGY 101 you would know this. You know crap about police harassment, police profiling, poor education system since all the good teachers teach in private schools or better neighborhoods, etc.....

I'm not making an excuse for those that choose to stay even though they had a way out....nor an excuse for the looters.... I'm sympathizing for the ones who as I stated fell under the circumstances I listed above... which are the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE in NEW ORLEAN right now.

Your post is exactly why the poor will always be poor. And quite frankly it is disgusting. That somebody else is to blame for where one's life is. Here's a clue for any 'poor' people (sure, I've been there...didn't know if I was gonna eat) - you are responsible for your own decisions and actions. If you choose not to work and choose to be poor then you will be. Don't for a minute try and tell me "there are no jobs" because that's BS.

They will not and cannot accept that their decisions lead them to being poor. The lack of action and hard work puts them there and nobody/nothing else. Nothing except for poor decisions and a lack of action.

Darwin is at work in this and I think he is doing a pretty damn good job.

 

[OulOat]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
poor education system since all the good teachers teach in private schools or better neighborhoods

Commie.

 

[thomsbrain]

poor timing? insensitive? maybe.

dead on the mark? DEFINETELY.

 

[frankgomez75]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: J0hnny

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
For all the ppl saying you could have walked so I don't feel sorry for you.... you all are nothing more than a bunch of disqusting low life sick excuses for a human being! :|

I can understand those of you who have no sympathy for the looters... duh! neither do I.

But what the fvck do you do when you have:

*No Car as you rely on public transportation
*No Money for food, hotels, rental cars
*Children.... and they sure as hell can't hitch/hike/walk for long distances
*No friends of family outside the city so nowhere to go
*No Cabs because lots of others were taking them out of town too!
*No Buses.... well HOW THE FVCK do you get to the buses if the public transportation system was shut down 36 hours PRIOR to the hurricane hitting ! Walk?!! Again.... most of these people are not fvckin athletes you idiots!

Oh they could have hitched a ride? really? STFU!
In this day and age.... people are not willing to pick up strangers. I bet most people here would not pick up a black guy dressed in some hip hop gear.... as much sh1t as ppl talk about those type of people on these boards. Fvckin hipocrits! Show me some footage of a white family (most who had the means to leave in their SUV's) picking up their local black family... at least one photo. You prolly won't.

Oh, they could have walked? really? STFU! They would have had to walk 60-100 miles in 1-2 days dumba$$es. Do that with a kid strapped on. Do that when you're not in good shape. Do that when your old. Do that when you grandma or grandpa, mother or father can't keep up with you.... then say too bad b1tch, cya!

I wonder what the percentage of people here saying all this have ever come from the ghetto and can ACTUALLY RELATE! Thats what you people who have money and the means always do..... blame them for their situation. You Sick Fvcks.

I know where these people are coming from (NOT THE LOOTERS)... but the ones who fall under the situations I stated above. Most of you talking sh1t... I like to know what city and burough/ghetto your from? And tell me if what I'm saying is bullsh1t or not.

It saddens me that we came together for 9/11 but we can't unite when a tragedy that can possibly be worse than 9/11 hits to poor.

The poor always get the shaft. No? Really? Fvck you.... you haven't been there.. you don't know how hard it is to move up and out of the social class you were born in. If you even took SOCIOLOGY 101 you would know this. You know crap about police harassment, police profiling, poor education system since all the good teachers teach in private schools or better neighborhoods, etc.....

I'm not making an excuse for those that choose to stay even though they had a way out....nor an excuse for the looters.... I'm sympathizing for the ones who as I stated fell under the circumstances I listed above... which are the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE in NEW ORLEAN right now.

I consider myself "well-off" and I agree with you entirely about the weak and poor not being able to make it out. It's such a disgrace how we treat our people and how the system doesn't do anything except keep them poor.

Oh really?

so its "the sytems" fault.

jesus tap dancing christ, get a job.

Really?
I bet you are either:
white
middle to upper-class
have never lived in poverty

If not.... please explain how you made it out of? Its no cake walk.

I had a helluva time finding work in the ghetto. When you do get one... its either minimum wage or dangerous. I lived in a town with 100,000 people.... no bus transportation. A city that once held the headquarters of the KKK.

I dropped out of school to help out cuz my mom couldn't pay all the bills, even though she worked 2 jobs.... paying minimum wage cuz my low life father split before I was born.... The only reason I'm alive is because another person (white caucsian/middleclass) social worker decided to make a difference in my life. I watched all my friends either die from gang violence, drugs, or go to prison cuz they didn't get an opportunity like me. Someone reached out to help me in a time of need at 16yrs old and was not afraid to come into my neighborhood... even though he could have been shot.

With his help I was able to get my GED, but only because he would take me (again no public transportation in my neighborhood).... and I'm now wrapping up my senior year in college getting my business degree.

Its so easy to tell people what to do when you're on top. Get off your high horse and help someone rather than say "Get a job"

You think its so easy.....

 

[KingofCamelot]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
For all the ppl saying you could have walked so I don't feel sorry for you.... you all are nothing more than a bunch of disqusting low life sick excuses for a human being! :|

I can understand those of you who have no sympathy for the looters... duh! neither do I.

But what the fvck do you do when you have:

*No Car as you rely on public transportation
*No Money for food, hotels, rental cars
*Children.... and they sure as hell can't hitch/hike/walk for long distances
*No friends of family outside the city so nowhere to go
*No Cabs because lots of others were taking them out of town too!
*No Buses.... well HOW THE FVCK do you get to the buses if the public transportation system was shut down 36 hours PRIOR to the hurricane hitting ! Walk?!! Again.... most of these people are not fvckin athletes you idiots!

Oh they could have hitched a ride? really? STFU!
In this day and age.... people are not willing to pick up strangers. I bet most people here would not pick up a black guy dressed in some hip hop gear.... as much sh1t as ppl talk about those type of people on these boards. Fvckin hipocrits! Show me some footage of a white family (most who had the means to leave in their SUV's) picking up their local black family... at least one photo. You prolly won't.

Oh, they could have walked? really? STFU! They would have had to walk 60-100 miles in 1-2 days dumba$$es. Do that with a kid strapped on. Do that when you're not in good shape. Do that when your old. Do that when you grandma or grandpa, mother or father can't keep up with you.... then say too bad b1tch, cya!

I wonder what the percentage of people here saying all this have ever come from the ghetto and can ACTUALLY RELATE! Thats what you people who have money and the means always do..... blame them for their situation. You Sick Fvcks.

I know where these people are coming from (NOT THE LOOTERS)... but the ones who fall under the situations I stated above. Most of you talking sh1t... I like to know what city and burough/ghetto your from? And tell me if what I'm saying is bullsh1t or not.

It saddens me that we came together for 9/11 but we can't unite when a tragedy that can possibly be worse than 9/11 hits to poor.

The poor always get the shaft. No? Really? Fvck you.... you haven't been there.. you don't know how hard it is to move up and out of the social class you were born in. If you even took SOCIOLOGY 101 you would know this. You know crap about police harassment, police profiling, poor education system since all the good teachers teach in private schools or better neighborhoods, etc.....

I'm not making an excuse for those that choose to stay even though they had a way out....nor an excuse for the looters.... I'm sympathizing for the ones who as I stated fell under the circumstances I listed above... which are the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE in NEW ORLEAN right now.

So just because they had no immediate way out they were supposed to go "Sh!t, theres no easy way out of the city...I guess I will just stay and hope I don't die." WTF? Where theres a will theres a way. I can't see how anyone with half a brain would decide to stay in a city thats being evacuated just because they didn't have an easy way out. Humans are quite resourceful, find a way. I can tell you that I would exhust every possible way out of the city, and if worse comes to worse, I would attempt to walk the fvck out. No way in hell I would stay in a city thats being evacuated.

Yes I realize you are saying that some people didn't have an easy way out, but are you honestly saying you would just stay in a city about to be hit by a hurricane? MAKE AN ATTEMPT.

I know the above may be an incoherent rambling, but seriously, I don't see why anyone would not make an attempt. Dying trying is always better than just dying.

EDIT: I also refuse to believe that there wasn't someone kind enough to give someone a ride with a freaking hurricane coming. I would cram as many people into my car as possible. There is no fvcking excuse to not be human enough to give someone a ride out of an area being evacuated.

 

[frankgomez75]

Your post is exactly why the poor will always be poor. And quite frankly it is disgusting. That somebody else is to blame for where one's life is. Here's a clue for any 'poor' people (sure, I've been there...didn't know if I was gonna eat) - you are responsible for your own decisions and actions. If you choose not to work and choose to be poor then you will be. Don't for a minute try and tell me "there are no jobs" because that's BS.

They will not and cannot accept that their decisions lead them to being poor. The lack of action and hard work puts them there and nobody/nothing else. Nothing except for poor decisions and a lack of action.

Darwin is at work in this and I think he is doing a pretty damn good job.

I agree with you about each person has a choice. I have no sympathy for lazy a$$es.
I'm just saying its not as easy as "Get a job". Many jobs require you have GED's or HS diplomas at least. And when you have lots of people like me who got screwed growing up... its hard! I was fortunate that someone reached out. But if they didn't I would prolly be another statistic.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
Really?
I bet you are either:
white
middle to upper-class
have never lived in poverty

If not.... please explain how you made it out of? Its no cake walk.

I had a helluva time finding work in the ghetto. When you do get one... its either minimum wage or dangerous. I lived in a town with 100,000 people.... no bus transportation. A city that once held the headquarters of the KKK.

I dropped out of school to help out cuz my mom couldn't pay all the bills, even though she worked 2 jobs.... paying minimum wage cuz my low life father split before I was born.... The only reason I'm alive is because another person (white caucsian/middleclass) social worker decided to make a difference in my life. I watched all my friends either die from gang violence, drugs, or go to prison cuz they didn't get an opportunity like me. Someone reached out to help me in a time of need at 16yrs old and was not afraid to come into my neighborhood... even though he could have been shot.

With his help I was able to get my GED, but only because he would take me (again no public transportation in my neighborhood).... and I'm now wrapping up my senior year in college getting my business degree.

Its so easy to tell people what to do when you're on top. Get off your high horse and help someone rather than say "Get a job"

You think its so easy.....

I am not gonna play... let's top this... with who had a worse life or a harder time... i am older than you and had a head start. And i dont feel the need to air all my horror stories on an open forum.

I will say, however... that your mom chose to have a child with a man who did not stand by her. your father chose to walk out on his family. If the ppl in your family were only capable of min wage jobs, my guess would be that there was no higher education there.. despite the long list of availbility out there.

Society, the white man or the government did not make the choices, your parents did. It is nice that you had someone to give you a helping hand. But i do not for one minute believe that you could not have done it without him. i think if you wanted it, you would have gotten it.

🙂

 

[frankgomez75]

Originally posted by: KingofCamelot

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
For all the ppl saying you could have walked so I don't feel sorry for you.... you all are nothing more than a bunch of disqusting low life sick excuses for a human being! :|

I can understand those of you who have no sympathy for the looters... duh! neither do I.

But what the fvck do you do when you have:

*No Car as you rely on public transportation
*No Money for food, hotels, rental cars
*Children.... and they sure as hell can't hitch/hike/walk for long distances
*No friends of family outside the city so nowhere to go
*No Cabs because lots of others were taking them out of town too!
*No Buses.... well HOW THE FVCK do you get to the buses if the public transportation system was shut down 36 hours PRIOR to the hurricane hitting ! Walk?!! Again.... most of these people are not fvckin athletes you idiots!

Oh they could have hitched a ride? really? STFU!
In this day and age.... people are not willing to pick up strangers. I bet most people here would not pick up a black guy dressed in some hip hop gear.... as much sh1t as ppl talk about those type of people on these boards. Fvckin hipocrits! Show me some footage of a white family (most who had the means to leave in their SUV's) picking up their local black family... at least one photo. You prolly won't.

Oh, they could have walked? really? STFU! They would have had to walk 60-100 miles in 1-2 days dumba$$es. Do that with a kid strapped on. Do that when you're not in good shape. Do that when your old. Do that when you grandma or grandpa, mother or father can't keep up with you.... then say too bad b1tch, cya!

I wonder what the percentage of people here saying all this have ever come from the ghetto and can ACTUALLY RELATE! Thats what you people who have money and the means always do..... blame them for their situation. You Sick Fvcks.

I know where these people are coming from (NOT THE LOOTERS)... but the ones who fall under the situations I stated above. Most of you talking sh1t... I like to know what city and burough/ghetto your from? And tell me if what I'm saying is bullsh1t or not.

It saddens me that we came together for 9/11 but we can't unite when a tragedy that can possibly be worse than 9/11 hits to poor.

The poor always get the shaft. No? Really? Fvck you.... you haven't been there.. you don't know how hard it is to move up and out of the social class you were born in. If you even took SOCIOLOGY 101 you would know this. You know crap about police harassment, police profiling, poor education system since all the good teachers teach in private schools or better neighborhoods, etc.....

I'm not making an excuse for those that choose to stay even though they had a way out....nor an excuse for the looters.... I'm sympathizing for the ones who as I stated fell under the circumstances I listed above... which are the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE in NEW ORLEAN right now.

So just because they had no immediate way out they were supposed to go "Sh!t, theres no easy way out of the city...I guess I will just stay and hope I don't die." WTF? Where theres a will theres a way. I can't see how anyone with half a brain would decide to stay in a city thats being evacuated just because they didn't have an easy way out. Humans are quite resourceful, find a way. I can tell you that I would exhust every possible way out of the city, and if worse comes to worse, I would attempt to walk the fvck out. No way in hell I would stay in a city thats being evacuated.

Yes I realize you are saying that some people didn't have an easy way out, but are you honestly saying you would just stay in a city about to be hit by a hurricane? MAKE AN ATTEMPT.

I know the above may be an incoherent rambling, but seriously, I don't see why anyone would not make an attempt. Dying trying is always better than just dying.

EDIT: I also refuse to believe that there wasn't someone kind enough to give someone a ride with a freaking hurricane coming. I would cram as many people into my car as possible. There is no fvcking excuse to not be human enough to give someone a ride out of an area being evacuated.

You are prolly one of the few that have a big enough heart to help those in need. I'm sure many did attempt to leave. However.... it was announced to many who couldn't that they should head to the Superdome as a last resort.

If I was trapped and my only option was the Superdome, I would go. Its alot closer than getting out of the city. Easier to access.

Of course I would have tried to exhaust all means possible to leave... but walking is not an option. I would not risk a 60 to 100 mile hike on the eve of the largest hurricane to hit New Orleans. The Superdome was a last resort for many. Not all... but many.

Again... I don't pity the ones who had the choice but refused, they need to take it upon themselves to help out in the situation. I am only saying that people need to have compassion for the ones who only chose to go to the Superdome as a last resort because thier options were dried out. And no.... walking is not an option. Sorry.... I'm not lazy... but I know that my chances of survival are higher inside the Superdome than they are if I had chosen to walk.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: J0hnny

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
For all the ppl saying you could have walked so I don't feel sorry for you.... you all are nothing more than a bunch of disqusting low life sick excuses for a human being! :|

I can understand those of you who have no sympathy for the looters... duh! neither do I.

But what the fvck do you do when you have:

*No Car as you rely on public transportation
*No Money for food, hotels, rental cars
*Children.... and they sure as hell can't hitch/hike/walk for long distances
*No friends of family outside the city so nowhere to go
*No Cabs because lots of others were taking them out of town too!
*No Buses.... well HOW THE FVCK do you get to the buses if the public transportation system was shut down 36 hours PRIOR to the hurricane hitting ! Walk?!! Again.... most of these people are not fvckin athletes you idiots!

Oh they could have hitched a ride? really? STFU!
In this day and age.... people are not willing to pick up strangers. I bet most people here would not pick up a black guy dressed in some hip hop gear.... as much sh1t as ppl talk about those type of people on these boards. Fvckin hipocrits! Show me some footage of a white family (most who had the means to leave in their SUV's) picking up their local black family... at least one photo. You prolly won't.

Oh, they could have walked? really? STFU! They would have had to walk 60-100 miles in 1-2 days dumba$$es. Do that with a kid strapped on. Do that when you're not in good shape. Do that when your old. Do that when you grandma or grandpa, mother or father can't keep up with you.... then say too bad b1tch, cya!

I wonder what the percentage of people here saying all this have ever come from the ghetto and can ACTUALLY RELATE! Thats what you people who have money and the means always do..... blame them for their situation. You Sick Fvcks.

I know where these people are coming from (NOT THE LOOTERS)... but the ones who fall under the situations I stated above. Most of you talking sh1t... I like to know what city and burough/ghetto your from? And tell me if what I'm saying is bullsh1t or not.

It saddens me that we came together for 9/11 but we can't unite when a tragedy that can possibly be worse than 9/11 hits to poor.

The poor always get the shaft. No? Really? Fvck you.... you haven't been there.. you don't know how hard it is to move up and out of the social class you were born in. If you even took SOCIOLOGY 101 you would know this. You know crap about police harassment, police profiling, poor education system since all the good teachers teach in private schools or better neighborhoods, etc.....

I'm not making an excuse for those that choose to stay even though they had a way out....nor an excuse for the looters.... I'm sympathizing for the ones who as I stated fell under the circumstances I listed above... which are the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE in NEW ORLEAN right now.

I consider myself "well-off" and I agree with you entirely about the weak and poor not being able to make it out. It's such a disgrace how we treat our people and how the system doesn't do anything except keep them poor.

Oh really?

so its "the sytems" fault.

jesus tap dancing christ, get a job.

Really?
I bet you are either:
white
middle to upper-class
have never lived in poverty

If not.... please explain how you made it out of? Its no cake walk.

I had a helluva time finding work in the ghetto. When you do get one... its either minimum wage or dangerous. I lived in a town with 100,000 people.... no bus transportation. A city that once held the headquarters of the KKK.

I dropped out of school to help out cuz my mom couldn't pay all the bills, even though she worked 2 jobs.... paying minimum wage cuz my low life father split before I was born.... The only reason I'm alive is because another person (white caucsian/middleclass) social worker decided to make a difference in my life. I watched all my friends either die from gang violence, drugs, or go to prison cuz they didn't get an opportunity like me. Someone reached out to help me in a time of need at 16yrs old and was not afraid to come into my neighborhood... even though he could have been shot.

With his help I was able to get my GED, but only because he would take me (again no public transportation in my neighborhood).... and I'm now wrapping up my senior year in college getting my business degree.

Its so easy to tell people what to do when you're on top. Get off your high horse and help someone rather than say "Get a job"

You think its so easy.....

Yes it is that easy.

Get a job. Go to school.

Just how is that so hard?

Blaming others for poor decisions isn't how you make something of yourself. Glad that you realize that though.

Living in poverty? Try 100 bucks a month rent when I was 20 on my own eating chicken necks and rice for dinner because I could eat for less than a dollar a day - if your mom couldn't make it working two jobs then she was living way beyond her means. Living in a hell hole - but yet I was going to school, I was working 40+ hours a week.

sorry man, this is the USA and if you work hard enough you'll be just fine.

 

[frankgomez75]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
Really?
I bet you are either:
white
middle to upper-class
have never lived in poverty

If not.... please explain how you made it out of? Its no cake walk.

I had a helluva time finding work in the ghetto. When you do get one... its either minimum wage or dangerous. I lived in a town with 100,000 people.... no bus transportation. A city that once held the headquarters of the KKK.

I dropped out of school to help out cuz my mom couldn't pay all the bills, even though she worked 2 jobs.... paying minimum wage cuz my low life father split before I was born.... The only reason I'm alive is because another person (white caucsian/middleclass) social worker decided to make a difference in my life. I watched all my friends either die from gang violence, drugs, or go to prison cuz they didn't get an opportunity like me. Someone reached out to help me in a time of need at 16yrs old and was not afraid to come into my neighborhood... even though he could have been shot.

With his help I was able to get my GED, but only because he would take me (again no public transportation in my neighborhood).... and I'm now wrapping up my senior year in college getting my business degree.

Its so easy to tell people what to do when you're on top. Get off your high horse and help someone rather than say "Get a job"

You think its so easy.....

I am not gonna play... let's top this... with who had a worse life or a harder time... i am older than you and had a head start. And i dont feel the need to air all my horror stories on an open forum.

I will say, however... that your mom chose to have a child with a man who did not stand by her. your father chose to walk out on his family. If the ppl in your family were only capable of min wage jobs, my guess would be that there was no higher education there.. despite the long list of availbility out there.

Society, the white man or the government did not make the choices, your parents did. It is nice that you had someone to give you a helping hand. But i do not for one minute believe that you could not have done it without him. i think if you wanted it, you would have gotten it.

🙂

I want to believe that... but I just can't. I think of my life much in the same way of the Africans who were enslaved. The ones who wanted to be free but couldn't do so on thier own. The ones who made it out were helped by Harriet Tubman and a string of sympathetic white people who believed in the cause of freedom. It took a Civil War to change things.

I believe it actually may take another... but this time it will be "The haves vs The have nots"

Substitute the chains on the slaves as my oppression. I was born a slave. I was in a situation that I had no control over. I once harbored anger at my mother and father... but people are human and make mistakes. I forgave my mother.... my father I will prolly never forgive as I yet to have met him. But had I not had a Harriet Tubman like person and a support structure to help me out.... I would forever have been enslaved into a life of poverty and oppression.

I know many people feel this way... and many people who have not been there can sympathize.

 

[spidey07]

"If not.... please explain how you made it out of? Its no cake walk.

I had a helluva time finding work in the ghetto. When you do get one... its either minimum wage or dangerous. I lived in a town with 100,000 people.... no bus transportation. A city that once held the headquarters of the KKK. "

And you're proving my point. What part of "get a job" don't people get?

"when you do get one its either minimum wage or gangerous" "its no cake walk" "no buss transportation"

no sh!t. Life is hard. Get over it.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
I want to believe that... but I just can't. I think of my life much in the same way of the Africans who were enslaved. The ones who wanted to be free but couldn't do so on thier own. The ones who made it out were helped by Harriet Tubman and a string of sympathetic white people who believed in the cause of freedom. It took a Civil War to change things.

I believe it actually may take another... but this time it will be "The haves vs The have nots"

Substitute the chains on the slaves as my oppression. I was born a slave. I was in a situation that I had no control over. I once harbored anger at my mother and father... but people are human and make mistakes. I forgave my mother.... my father I will prolly never forgive as I yet to have met him. But had I not had a Harriet Tubman like person and a support structure to help me out.... I would forever have been enslaved into a life of poverty and oppression.

I know many people feel this way... and many people who have not been there can sympathize.

I can symapthize with..."i had a fvcked up childhood and need to work my azz off to better myself and the lives of my children"

I cannot sympathize with..."i had a fvcked up childhood and now i am oppressed and enslaved to poverty by those who have"

 

[DrPizza]

I would completely agree with statements regarding their own stupidity, laziness, failure to heed warnings, mandatory evacuation, etc.

EXCEPT, where the hell is the support for the people at the Superdome? That should have been there within hours of the storm passing.

 

[DrPizza]

oh, but perhaps it's a smart move on the part of FEMA:
Delay aid (and never dare to reveal it was done on purpose)

THEN, next time there's a mandatory evacuation anywhere else, perhaps more people might listen??
Think so, maybe?
A few dead now may save a lot more later.

So, it's either that, complete incompetence, or no concern for the plight of people with no political power.

 

[frankgomez75]

Originally posted by: spidey07
"If not.... please explain how you made it out of? Its no cake walk.

I had a helluva time finding work in the ghetto. When you do get one... its either minimum wage or dangerous. I lived in a town with 100,000 people.... no bus transportation. A city that once held the headquarters of the KKK. "

And you're proving my point. What part of "get a job" don't people get?

"when you do get one its either minimum wage or gangerous" "its no cake walk" "no buss transportation"

no sh!t. Life is hard. Get over it.

Yes you are right... I'm not saying lets give handouts to the poor. No... life is more enjoyable when you earn something. Thats why I like building computers. I earned the money to buy the parts... and I built it (created something).

But.... the amount of poverty in this country is pathetic. There needs to be more govt funding to give ppl more opportunities where there are none. Many social work type of places have lost funding. Many people in the ghetto feel abandoned..... this is why people are angry. Than you get slapped in the face with something like the Superdome incident and mayhem will ensue.

Many people across the nation are angry that the govt has moved so slow to respond. Hell the head of FEMA said he didn't know until Thursday about the situation at the superdome!

This is a wake up call. Things in this country need to change. We need to take better care of ourselves instead of all these other countries.

 

[frankgomez75]

Check out the first link for the video on CNN:
FEMA Chief says "I didn't know about the situation at the Superdome until I watched the news on Thursday!

Pathetic

BTW... the reporter rips his a$$ up pretty good.