I love it when "stoopid" people buy the P4, because that means Intel gets the money to fix it so I can buy it later on when it's a rock solid product. A few steppings from now and at maybe around 2-3 Ghz it will rule da houze 
Intels processors have never been the best architecture around, but they are bad mofo?s at fixing their fabrication process so they eventually come out as kick ass products.
I remember that in the beginning of the cpu?s history both IBM and TI (Texas Instruments) often had much better processors than Intel, but Intel "fixed" that buy tweaking there fabrication process. And in the beginning when there processor wasn?t worth it they marketed the product like hell so "stoopid" people bought them and gave them money to fix there fabrication process
Intels processors have never been the best architecture around, but they are bad mofo?s at fixing their fabrication process so they eventually come out as kick ass products.
I remember that in the beginning of the cpu?s history both IBM and TI (Texas Instruments) often had much better processors than Intel, but Intel "fixed" that buy tweaking there fabrication process. And in the beginning when there processor wasn?t worth it they marketed the product like hell so "stoopid" people bought them and gave them money to fix there fabrication process
Might want to make sure your friend is getting rambus if he actually goes through with buying a p4 system. If he's actually building it he'll probly have a time of it finding a good p4 board and getting the chip retail. They aren't making p4 boards that will use ddr ram for like late 2001 if memory serves.
The reasons for the "no AMD" phenonmenon among ignorant computer buyers have been largely addressed:
1) Intel's enormous advertising budget and their clever continuation of the Pentium name has resulted in wholesale public deception.
2) Most people couldn't be bothered to read, much less understand, benchmarks on a site like this that prove AMD's products are better.
3) Many people mistakenly believe that AMD platforms are somehow less reliable or stable than Intel platforms. This is a tough one to crack, because even semi-knowledgable IT professionals still persist in this dangerous, blatanty wrong view. This despite every credible hardware reviewer on the planet acknowledging that AMD/VIA platforms are rock solid.
4) People mistakenly put faith in the old addage "you get what you pay for", which, although sounding reasonable on the surface, is often not true in the real world, and in the computer industry, almost never true. Some things cost more than they are truly worth, and some things cost less. It's just like the stock market -- Intel can price P3's exhorbiantly high because ignorant fools are willing to buy it. The price has no relation to the quality of the product.
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1) Intel's enormous advertising budget and their clever continuation of the Pentium name has resulted in wholesale public deception.
2) Most people couldn't be bothered to read, much less understand, benchmarks on a site like this that prove AMD's products are better.
3) Many people mistakenly believe that AMD platforms are somehow less reliable or stable than Intel platforms. This is a tough one to crack, because even semi-knowledgable IT professionals still persist in this dangerous, blatanty wrong view. This despite every credible hardware reviewer on the planet acknowledging that AMD/VIA platforms are rock solid.
4) People mistakenly put faith in the old addage "you get what you pay for", which, although sounding reasonable on the surface, is often not true in the real world, and in the computer industry, almost never true. Some things cost more than they are truly worth, and some things cost less. It's just like the stock market -- Intel can price P3's exhorbiantly high because ignorant fools are willing to buy it. The price has no relation to the quality of the product.
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According to what he has told me he is missing the mobo, and CPU, and thats it. He has got everything else. I'll just keep my trap shut and see how all knowing he is... Cause he brags about it alot and I want to see REALLY how good he is with computers!
SKY.
SKY.
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<< 3) Many people mistakenly believe that AMD platforms are somehow less reliable or stable than Intel platforms. This is a tough one to crack, because even semi-knowledgable IT professionals still persist in this dangerous, blatanty wrong view. This despite every credible hardware reviewer on the planet acknowledging that AMD/VIA platforms are rock solid. >>
The problem is, you're put in charge of building a company server. Server crashes. If the boss finds out that you put AMD in the server, you get your @$$ eatin out, if you put Intel in the server, he tells you to fix it.
<< 3) Many people mistakenly believe that AMD platforms are somehow less reliable or stable than Intel platforms. This is a tough one to crack, because even semi-knowledgable IT professionals still persist in this dangerous, blatanty wrong view. This despite every credible hardware reviewer on the planet acknowledging that AMD/VIA platforms are rock solid. >>
The problem is, you're put in charge of building a company server. Server crashes. If the boss finds out that you put AMD in the server, you get your @$$ eatin out, if you put Intel in the server, he tells you to fix it.
Traditionally Intel CPUs are VERY rock solid I havae to admit, after Intel get feed back and tweeks the CPUS to be rock solid. Basically they are not really rock solid to start with but get better as they get older if you get what I mean.
SKY.
SKY.
I've told them to see some benchmarks but they have no idea what is going on even i explained to them. They knew little about computers and disbelieve that intel would make cpu worse than AMD
But then most servers are Intel based because Corporate's need the on-site support from companys like Dell. Considering the stability of an MSI motherboard and a T-bird, perhaps when the 760 comes out more servers will be AMD..
My tactic is almost forceful when talking to friends who want me to build a system for them. I'm like: "Look, I'm the experienced tech here; I know what I'm talking about, you don't. I will get an Intel processor for you if you want it, but it would be an incredibly STUPID thing to do considering they cost twice as mucha and perform better than Intel." (I know T-Bird and P3 are about same but these people are usually choosing between Duron and Celeron). This works quite well.
Well, all I can say is keep cracking at them.
I finally converted my dad to a Tbird / Kt7 RAID board. And it screams next to his P233 MMX.
I finally converted my dad to a Tbird / Kt7 RAID board. And it screams next to his P233 MMX.
has anyone read the latest p4 benchmarks at tomshardware.com? looks like the p4 is akickass cpu when softwar is written for it. im an amd man myself so i wouldnt spend the money on a pentium no matter what, even is intel was a millisecond faster than amd, but...looks like the p4 has something to give amd a heads up about.
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