I can keep my insurance? YOU LIE!

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Lifer
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So true. There's plenty of valid reasons to criticize Obama but this isn't one of them.

Uhh... except that ignores that he could have been a LEADER and pushed to make sure what he promised and kept stating would actually happen. But yeah, you can't blame an awol "leader" i guess...
 
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How can Obama let you keep the insurance plan you are sooooo happy with if your employer decides to switch or they decide to dump your employer? You are living in some dream world.

Note also that if we do nothing about health insurance and it becomes increasingly expensive and unaffordable and continues to gobble up a larger and larger percentage of our nation's GDP that people who are happy with their current health insurance could very well lose it anyway even if Congress doesn't pass any sort of health care reform.

People need to realize that it is very likely that their health insurance is going to change in some sort of a way, with or without an act of Congress.
 

nobodyknows

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Uhh... except that ignores that he could have been a LEADER and pushed to make sure what he promised and kept stating would actually happen. But yeah, you can't blame an awol "leader" i guess...

Get the calander and write it down. Cad has seen the truth of Bush at long last, especially the part about AWOL!!! ROTFLMFAO!!
 

Ozoned

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Note also that if we do nothing about health insurance and it becomes increasingly expensive and unaffordable and continues to gobble up a larger and larger percentage of our nation's GDP that people who are happy with their current health insurance could very well lose it anyway even if Congress doesn't pass any sort of health care reform.

People need to realize that it is very likely that their health insurance is going to change in some sort of a way, with or without an act of Congress.

Do you really believe the health care industry is going to kill their cash cow?
 

Jhhnn

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The last election was Brown vs. Coakley in which the public clearly said that THIS steaming pile of healthcare reform is NOT what they want. THATS the truth.. Obama and the Democrats have ruined their 'mandate' for change by taking something the people want and so destroying it that people would rather have the evil insurance companies than Obamacare.

I should have said the last general election, I suppose, when repubs were soundly trounced. If you think Brown vs Coakley reflects a true reversal in that, you're delusional.

If we didn't have the whole States Rights aspect of government expressed by the Constitutional provision for the Senate, that trouncing would have been much more profound. Republican strength in the Senate comes largely from the less populous states. A senator from Wyoming or North Dakota has the same weight as one from California or New York. The rules of the Senate further protect minority interests.

Which is not to say that I object to that, but it means that what you see as the will of the people is even further out in left field than you'll ever comprehend, obviously.

It's no coincidence, either, that republican strongholds generally rank quite low in terms of education, healthcare, income equality and so forth, making voters quite susceptible to the emotional pitch of republicans, who'll generally return the favor by making sure their constituents stay at the bottom, with them on top...

I suppose you'd claim that GWB's victory in 2000 was "the will of the people" rather than a calculated exploitation of the electoral college system, seeing as how he actually lost the popular vote...

I'm not complaining about that, either. What I am saying, however, is that if Dems had done only slightly better in senatorial races, or if we had a unicameral legislature, this healthcare fracas would be over, and the nation would have what they really want, which is pretty much what's in the HOR version of the healthcare bill...