I bought some synthetic urine for a pre-employment drug test, but I'm kind of afraid

[alfa147x]

lol, why are you trying to hide legal use for weed? Just let them know up front and no problems.

it's obvious the guy doesn't use it for medicinal purposes.

if you want or NEED the fucking job that bad, then stop doing the shit that will prevent you from getting it. people are fucking stupid.

but, but , but ... it's not ADDICTIVE! !!!

 

[SagaLore]

but, but , but ... it's not ADDICTIVE! !!!

Its about as addictive as food is to obese people or throwing up is to bulimic people.

 

[BladeVenom]

no the real dopers on coke/x/whatever don't get caught because it doesn't show up in their piss after a day or two. so :thumbsdown:

That's the funny thing. Urine tests are only good for catching the least harmful drug. It really just proves how pointless the whole thing is.

 

[JEDIYoda]

They guy want a job but he can't lay off the weed long enough to detox and take the piss test himself...

Since when did McDonald`s require a piss test????

 

[JEDIYoda]

So what ? The tests are bogus invasion of privacy. Plus you don't know his situation or why he is using MJ. maybe its medical usage and its not been legalized in his state. ignorance or stupidity either way your trolling.

Wow talk about somebody being ignorant......
Invasion of privacy? How so?
They are accepted accross the board as being necessary for certain jobs!
You are right, his MJ usage is probably medical.....now that is funny!!

 

[halik]

So what ? The tests are bogus invasion of privacy. Plus you don't know his situation or why he is using MJ. maybe its medical usage and its not been legalized in his state. ignorance or stupidity either way your trolling.

Toke toke pass? Maybe if you want the god damn job, try not being a stoner for a bit?

Not being able to quit pot for a job you "really need" shows the right priorities in life. Real winner there.

 

[alkemyst]

The main problem with pot smokers is many think it has no affect on them. They don't have an issue smoking prior to work, at lunch, sneaking away on a break to do it.

That's the main issue companies have. In one breath, they swear they never do and in the other they brag/talk about 'having a bowl' at lunch.

 

[BoomerD]

I pissed in the cup for more than 30 years. NEVER pissed dirty.
Yes, I have issues with having to test for a relatively harmless substance, but until the laws are changed, it's still an illegal substance that's more-or-less looked down upon by the business community. MOST companies don't want to hire "dopers." (yet many turn a blind eye to drunks as long as they don't drink on the job)

Until the testing companies come up with some way of discriminating between the joint you smoked last weekend in the comfort of your living room and the joint you smoked 15 minutes ago while driving your car...marijuana will continue to be illegal...and testing positive will continue to be grounds for failing a drug test.

 

[WelshBloke]

Wow talk about somebody being ignorant......
Invasion of privacy? How so?
They are accepted accross the board as being necessary for certain jobs!
You are right, his MJ usage is probably medical.....now that is funny!!

Thats debatable, and youre forgetting that its a very cultural phenomenon. Most other countries don't drug test any where near as much as the US does. You accept it because you're used to it, all hell would break out over here if they brought it in.

I've never been drug tested, I've been a registered nurse working in a major UK general hospital for over a decade, and before that I worked in heavy and light industries doing a variety of jobs.

I'm not sure who drug tests as routine over here, I know the army does.

 

[crownjules]

Thats debatable, and youre forgetting that its a very cultural phenomenon. Most other countries don't drug test any where near as much as the US does. You accept it because you're used to it, all hell would break out over here if they brought it in.

Privacy is sacrosanct to us Americans. Unless you're a corporation, in which case your raking in of cash trumps privacy.

 

[actuarial]

You WAIVE your right to privacy when applying for the position. You don't have to, but then again, they don't have to hire you. Simple as that.

So you would be fine if employers required people to submit their full medical records?

 

[Saint Nick]

Well, here's my worthless input.

MJ has withdrawal symptoms. I know this from first hand experience. While it isn't addictive in the sense that opium and amphetamines are, it still leaves you the day after using with a "hankering" to do it again. And, if you can keep your mind off of it, it isn't very hard to stay away. But, for some people, it is almost impossible to get rid of those hankerings. I have a few friends who simply can't go a day without it, and yeah, I think that's pretty pathetic. But that's them and they're living their life, so be it.

Keep in mind I didn't start using until I was turned 22 (24 now). Sometimes I would go months of using about every other day, then quit. Sometimes I would only do it on weekends for a few months, then quit. Reasons for quitting vary, but usually its because of an employment change and subsequent drug tests.

Now, I can definitely say that after using about every other day, then quitting, I had withdrawal. I was getting night sweats, I was irritable, and had trouble falling asleep. After about a week, these problems went away. However, using once every five days or so, I never really experienced withdrawal problems.

I think a lot of the people who have issues quitting are people who have used since teenage years. I do believe it potentially slows development somehow if you begin using while young.

I have never allowed MJ to affect my life and take control of it. I am a very professional person who pays bills on time and holds steady employment, but, most importantly, I am dependable.

Again, this is just my worthless input. I know a lot of the DARE brainwashed members are in the thread, and to be honest, I respect and understand your opinion because I believed all of the drivel that was fed to me up until my 20s when I realized it simply isn't that big of a deal. Sure it is illegal, and that is a major factor why people don't use. MJ can ruin a life, but, only if they let it.

 

[alfa147x]

So you would be fine if employers required people to submit their full medical records?

You're not being FORCED to work there. Leave.

 

[alfa147x]

MJ can ruin a life, but, only if they let it.

Just like most things in the world

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Maybe your companies don't but all the companies I worked/work at (Fortune 500), they all have random testing policy in the employee handbook. They are free to test you anytime (randomly) or every time you got involved in some kinds of incidents/injuries.

I was thinking from a white collar POV. Blue collar yes that is more regular and understandable. You are operating in some cases machinery worth millions.

 

[Eli]

Synthetic THC for medication has been legal since the 80's. Smoking marijuana is neither helpful nor legal. Invasion of privacy isn't the issue.

Did those words really just come out of your mouth?

That must be why smoking marijuana medicinally is legal in so many states.

FYI, synthetic THC has terrible side effects, which marijuana has none of. There are dozens of different cannabinoids in marijuana. THC is only one. This combination is what gives marijuana its effects.

So let me know when they can synthesize a cannabinoid combination that is exactly like marijuana. I'll be the first to sign up.

Ignorance really must be bliss for some people. Good Christ.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

lol, why are you trying to hide legal use for weed? Just let them know up front and no problems.

it's obvious the guy doesn't use it for medicinal purposes.
People use MJ medicinally even though its not legal. Why is that so hard to comprehend? from the post their was no indication as to why he was taking MJ so put away your jump to conclusions mat.

if you want or NEED the fucking job that bad, then stop doing the shit that will prevent you from getting it. people are fucking stupid.
Why should anyone stop living their life the way they want? I say its just as noble to Cheat, lie and beat the system. Than stop for 30 days and just continue again once hired. They are both deceitful, your just arguing shades of gray.


every co-worker i've had that smoked weed was a fucking lazy loser.
congrats?

dd

 

[Saint Nick]

Did those words really just come out of your mouth?

That must be why smoking marijuana medicinally is legal in so many states.

FYI, synthetic THC has terrible side effects, which marijuana has none of. There are dozens of different cannabinoids in marijuana. THC is only one. This combination is what gives marijuana its effects.

So let me know when they can synthesize a cannabinoid combination that is exactly like marijuana. I'll be the first to sign up.

Ignorance really must be bliss for some people. Good Christ.

Amen.

 

[actuarial]

You're not being FORCED to work there. Leave.

So to be clear: any request an employer makes is fine because you're allowed to quit?

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Wow talk about somebody being ignorant......
Invasion of privacy? How so?
They are accepted accross the board as being necessary for certain jobs!
You are right, his MJ usage is probably medical.....now that is funny!!

who r u to judge either way? Being able to perform safely and accurately your contracted job is the companies business. Anything else is not.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Toke toke pass? Maybe if you want the god damn job, try not being a stoner for a bit?

Not being able to quit pot for a job you "really need" shows the right priorities in life. Real winner there.

priorities to not let some corporate schmucks tell me what you can or cannot do with your free time? Thats called having a principles.

 

[alfa147x]

So to be clear: any request an employer makes is fine because you're allowed to quit?

These things are generally CLEARLY noted in your employee contract / handbook. You've agreed to the terms. If it's not in anything then you're free to refuse and keep your job.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

You're not being FORCED to work there. Leave.

yes submit to your corporate paymasters. bow down boy. Shine my shoes real good to wont ya? Get yo' shine box boy and after that get out their in them field and clean up them cow pies.

 

[alfa147x]

yes submit to your corporate paymasters. bow down boy. Shine my shoes real good to wont ya? Get yo' shine box boy and after that get out their in them field and clean up them cow pies.

I don't work for a corporation. I work for a growing mid-size business.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

These things are generally CLEARLY noted in your employee contract / handbook. You've agreed to the terms. If it's not in anything then you're free to refuse and keep your job.

So to be clear anything included in your contract or handbook is fair game. LOL

talk about indoctrination. Why do you love corporate enslavement so much?