DangerAardvark
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To the OP: you do realize that you have control over your beliefs right? You don't like him? Believe him out of existence.
DangerAardvark
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Pertinent quotation:
"I don't even understand the connection: "he died for your sins". Well how does one affect the other? Fuckin... I hit myself in the foot with a shovel for your mortgage. What the... I don't understand the connection. And if there IS a correlation, why would you do that? Why would you die for someone's sins? Your sins are the only interesting things about you dreary, bleak motherfuckers." -Doug Stanhope
I wouldn't really hate god if he existed and I could hang out with him. I'd ask for some favors but he'd prolly tell me to fuck off. Maybe because I have poor communication skills 
That's just stupid. If there is a god then he's the basis by which you judge him. All the "good" things that you think there should be more of are his doing too. Assuming that there's a God how can you sit in what is likely a cozy chair typing on what is a marvel of technology and hate him? You've probably got a better life than a lot of people. So good, in fact, that you can spend some of it spewing hate about a figment of your imagination on a technology forum and not notice the lost time while theres some farm boy in Ethiopia who'll be skinned alive if he puts his hoe down before midnight. Yeah, you've got a good reason to hate God...
Why not redirect your hatred toward more rewarding targets...like people. People often are responsible for acts heinous, malevolent, spiteful, negligent, lazy, deceitful, etc. and are far more deserving of and responsive to hatred than your nonexistent God. In fact, people have the gall to do bad things (and neglect to do good things) RIGHT THERE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEM, instead of in some ethereal netheregion where you might fancy god is. Stop twisting your brain into knots by railing against unseen, unheard, unfelt, but cool-if-they're-out-there foes kid.
Why not redirect your hatred toward more rewarding targets...like people. People often are responsible for acts heinous, malevolent, spiteful, negligent, lazy, deceitful, etc. and are far more deserving of and responsive to hatred than your nonexistent God. In fact, people have the gall to do bad things (and neglect to do good things) RIGHT THERE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEM, instead of in some ethereal netheregion where you might fancy god is. Stop twisting your brain into knots by railing against unseen, unheard, unfelt, but cool-if-they're-out-there foes kid.
Great explanation for How, but it fails to explain the Why.
Why did I find one woman more attractive and compatible than any other? Surely, when I met and had relationships with other women, my neurochemistry was the same with them.
DangerAardvark
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We invented birth defects, miscarriages and childhood diseases?
But birth defects aren't evil, you say. And no, from a materialist point of view they're not. They're just natural.
But it turns out when you put someone in charge of the Universe, especially someone you claim to be a moral authority, he turns out to not even be up to the ethical standards of the worst human being.
It wasn't. The face recognition architecture is also related to perception of attractiveness, I don't know what other explanation you can come up with here. Are you trying to suggest brain function is independent of you liking a female?
Originally posted by: destrekor
so.. is that like... your a nonconformist? If that's the case.. YOUR ACTUALLY CONFORMING TO NONCONFORMIST WAYS! CONFORMIST! :laugh:
rebel against authority! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
lmao southpark
Cerpin Taxt
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I believe (or maybe want to believe) that God exists but all the hoopla surround eternal damnation in Hell was simply created by him to keep everyone in check and act as a strong deterrent. I don't think God truly cares about us or runs the daily show. I don't think he listens to prayers. Diseases and sickness are a way to keep the population in check but our birthing rates have managed to make this world too small for our numbers - so I really don't see why God wants more of us to stay alive.
And I fail to see how a creator can be such a vindictive, sadistic character out of a torture-porn movie. God doesn't care if I pray, he doesn't convert failing grades to passing grades, he doesn't help you own a job interview and he doesn't help you bowl a 300 game. He created everything in the Universe and merely keeps it in check. Earthquakes, famines, hurricanes, plagues etc. just keep the planet from overcrowding.
I am not sure about the afterlife either. Maybe when you die, you are wormfood.Or maybe you get to choose between pills - take the blue pill and you are disconnected from the mainframe; if you were a good person, you have the option of a red pill and you can go to heaven and frolic forever with angels & bunnies.
What do we know? Nothing. So come up with whatever helps you sleep at night.
And I fail to see how a creator can be such a vindictive, sadistic character out of a torture-porn movie. God doesn't care if I pray, he doesn't convert failing grades to passing grades, he doesn't help you own a job interview and he doesn't help you bowl a 300 game. He created everything in the Universe and merely keeps it in check. Earthquakes, famines, hurricanes, plagues etc. just keep the planet from overcrowding.
I am not sure about the afterlife either. Maybe when you die, you are wormfood.Or maybe you get to choose between pills - take the blue pill and you are disconnected from the mainframe; if you were a good person, you have the option of a red pill and you can go to heaven and frolic forever with angels & bunnies.
What do we know? Nothing. So come up with whatever helps you sleep at night.
What is love? Its a feeling right? The feelings and emotions you feel are chemical reactions occuring in your brain. I dare you to take ecstasy once and tell me you don't love everyone in the room with your state of mind.
redgtxdi
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1Cr 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
1Cr 13:5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
1Cr 13:6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
1Cr 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
1Cr 13:8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.
1Cr 13:9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
1Cr 13:10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
Substitute your name for the word "Love". Then, DIAF. :thumbsup:
Actually the feelings and emotions are electrical impulses. Actually, they're not limited to electricity, more specifically what they are is binary information patterns, electricity just happens to be the way they are propagated. Neurochemicals are just agonists and antagonists, or shortcuts to information transmission.
So, you believe God wants us to suffer?
Why?
You believe that things like birth defects, miscarriages and childhood diseases come from God?
What evidence is there of this? Doesn't logic force us to believe the very definition of "God" would make it impossible for him to hurt us?
Free moral agency is a much more plausible/logical explanation for the ills of the world. There is mountains of irrefutable empiricle evidence generated for us all on a daily basis as we react with other humans.
I don't fear him cause he loves me.
I believe in God and Jesus and know that I'm going to be saved. Although I'm not perfect and am not even close to being perfect, I'm still
going to go to heaven for believing in Jesus
I believe in God and Jesus and know that I'm going to be saved. Although I'm not perfect and am not even close to being perfect, I'm still
going to go to heaven for believing in Jesus
Jeff7
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God is all-knowing. From the moment of Creation, he would have known how everything would transpire, right down to every last birth defect, and stillborn child. Thus you must conclude:
- that this horrible suffering was all part of his grand, mysterious "plan," in which case it's actually a good thing
- he didn't care enough to try again and fix the bugs in his little concoction
- he is amused by suffering
Take your pick.
What about free moral agency? Doesn't everybody want that? Everyone complains when they don't feel "free" to decide for themselves.
Right?
How come one of your choices isn't:
- he lets us do exactly what we want to do because we refuse to learn any other way
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