I backed off for way too long.

[taltamir]

well, while you should see a benefit from going to 4GB of ram, there is no way that the game is crashing due to lack of ram on a 2GB machine.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: taltamir
not when it drops you from 34 to 16fps. and again, those are still much better then the worst processor produced 4 years ago. Not to mention this is average, not min FPS...

And those are not the most CPU intensive games out there...

Try running flight sim X, half life2, oblivion, or mass effect on one of those suckers.

I haven't seen anyone who uses a underclocked modern CPU with DDR3 ram...
Or DDR2-1066... Typically old processors are less efficient per mhz, and coupled with DDR1 ram and less of it as well.

Where does it drop 34fps to 16fps? The graph doesn't show.

Memory bandwidth on CPU does very little unless of course if it was net burst technology.

Those 2 games doesn't paint the picture for thousands of games out there either. Supreme Commander is very much dictated by CPU performance. While WIC is gpu and cpu intensive.

not to mention you are trying to compared 1920x1200 benches.

Fact is you can still play games comfortably on a 4 year old processor long as it's dual core since more and more games have taken advantage with the latest GPU. I can't say the same thing about 4 year old graphic cards.

 

[vj8usa]

OP, have you tried TF2 yet? I've found that it's extremely CPU intensive. I'll drop into the teens on rare occasions, and will routinely dip into the 30s on 20+ player servers with a lot going on.

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: vj8usa
OP, have you tried TF2 yet? I've found that it's extremely CPU intensive. I'll drop into the teens on rare occasions, and will routinely dip into the 30s on 20+ player servers with a lot going on.

Ah, with vsync on, that can obviously happen, but I've dumbed it down to 25x16 4xtaqaa 16xaf, and it has stayed consistent 60, even at a distance

Still can't get Grid to work right

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Azn
Fact is you can still play games comfortably on a 4 year old processor long as it's dual core since more and more games have taken advantage with the latest GPU.

What does this statement have to do with the OP's single-core?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: vj8usa
OP, have you tried TF2 yet? I've found that it's extremely CPU intensive. I'll drop into the teens on rare occasions, and will routinely dip into the 30s on 20+ player servers with a lot going on.

Ah, with vsync on, that can obviously happen, but I've dumbed it down to 25x16 4xtaqaa 16xaf, and it has stayed consistent 60, even at a distance

Still can't get Grid to work right

Grid is a buggy assed game. This should fix it.
http://ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php\\if it does not go here : http://community.codemasters.c...orumdisplay.php?f=1106

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Azn
Fact is you can still play games comfortably on a 4 year old processor long as it's dual core since more and more games have taken advantage with the latest GPU.

What does this statement have to do with the OP's single-core?

Even single cores are better off with a better GPU than a CPU.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: taltamir
not when it drops you from 34 to 16fps. and again, those are still much better then the worst processor produced 4 years ago. Not to mention this is average, not min FPS...

And those are not the most CPU intensive games out there...

Try running flight sim X, half life2, oblivion, or mass effect on one of those suckers.

I haven't seen anyone who uses a underclocked modern CPU with DDR3 ram...
Or DDR2-1066... Typically old processors are less efficient per mhz, and coupled with DDR1 ram and less of it as well.

Where does it drop 34fps to 16fps? The graph doesn't show.

Memory bandwidth on CPU does very little unless of course if it was net burst technology.

Those 2 games doesn't paint the picture for thousands of games out there either. Supreme Commander is very much dictated by CPU performance. While WIC is gpu and cpu intensive.

not to mention you are trying to compared 1920x1200 benches.

Fact is you can still play games comfortably on a 4 year old processor long as it's dual core since more and more games have taken advantage with the latest GPU. I can't say the same thing about 4 year old graphic cards.

I complete agree, there is NO four year old GPU that can play modern game, there ARE four year old high end dual core processors that CAN play MANY modern games... but that is a far cry from "any 4 year old processor can play ANY modern game".
I completely agree that a better GPU is more important then a better CPU. But there ARE CPUs that are too slow and the system SHOULD be in balance... in MOST cases however the system has a GPU too weak for the amount of CPU power it has, and thus the CPU can remain useful for much longer than its GPU.
I was never claiming that any "older" cpu is completely useless, heck i was just making the argument the other day that the Q6600 is still a great purchase today despite being "old". I was just opposed to statements that give too much credit to older CPUs.

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: vj8usa
OP, have you tried TF2 yet? I've found that it's extremely CPU intensive. I'll drop into the teens on rare occasions, and will routinely dip into the 30s on 20+ player servers with a lot going on.

Ah, with vsync on, that can obviously happen, but I've dumbed it down to 25x16 4xtaqaa 16xaf, and it has stayed consistent 60, even at a distance

Still can't get Grid to work right

Grid is a buggy assed game. This should fix it.
http://ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php\\if it does not go here : http://community.codemasters.c...orumdisplay.php?f=1106

hmmmmm Guess i just gotta tough it out without grid for a year. On to NFS. LOL