I backed off for way too long.

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: SSChevy2001
High OC is going to need more voltage, and right now the VRM are what needs the cooling the most. HR03 isn't going to help keep the VRM cool.

Question is will it be worth the extra money for a slightly higher overclock. You should hit atleast 800 with stock voltages.

http://hothardware.com/Article...4870-1GB-GDDR5/?page=9

No, The thing is i have an hr03gt on my x1900xtx right now, so i was wondering if i should swap it out.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: happy medium
none..not to sure about tf2.

Never mind it uses one core..

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1272686

EDIT: 4870 is a good choice ..Good luck and let me know how it goes.

Wo, just saw a deal on Bestbuy, 224.99 for the same visiontek card.

Shipping + tax (dame jersey) comes out to 246, but I don't have to wait for Rebate.

Does anyone know if an HR03gt will fit on a 4870

Does it run cool on it's own,, and can I oc it a bit with the hr03

The HR-03 fits the 4870 and keeps the GPU very cool. However, the rest of the card is boiling , having places with more then 100C, since the heatsink is very far from the PCB itself and there is not much flow of air over it. The biggest problem with this cooler is to cool down the VRMs that are reaching around 100C with the HR-03 provided heatsinks, on them. So I would stay away from this Thermalright for the 4870, because you are risking the cards lifespan.

Just play with the stock fan, making it spin faster when you are gaming and you can overclock the card and also keep it cool in the same time, having all the hot air exhausted outside.

I just looked at the OC stats for the card, and it's 2mhz per % increase in frames. Not bad. so Even if I get a fan to blow on the ram sinks No go?

The ram has nothing to do with overheating, as I think they are way cooler with something like the Hr 03 GT then they would have been with the stock cooler. Those 5 little VRM chips are the pain in the ass, because they heat up like crazy.

Maybe if you put on them some serious heatsinks and mount a fan there somehow, you might get their temperature in the safe zone. Try it and see. If they hit more then 90C , then you probably need to put the stock cooler back on the card. I have a friend that uses this cooler on his 4870, coupled with a very powerful Scythe fan ( 3000 rpm ) and the GPU never goes over 45 C in full load, but the VRMs are hitting 99C!!! with a couple of zerotherm heatsinks on them ( because he could not stick those that came with thermalright).

My advice is to try the stock cooler first and see if you like it. If you don't then put this on, but be prepared for higher temps in your case and maybe the VRM overheat.

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: happy medium
none..not to sure about tf2.

Never mind it uses one core..

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1272686

EDIT: 4870 is a good choice ..Good luck and let me know how it goes.

Wo, just saw a deal on Bestbuy, 224.99 for the same visiontek card.

Shipping + tax (dame jersey) comes out to 246, but I don't have to wait for Rebate.

Does anyone know if an HR03gt will fit on a 4870

Does it run cool on it's own,, and can I oc it a bit with the hr03

The HR-03 fits the 4870 and keeps the GPU very cool. However, the rest of the card is boiling , having places with more then 100C, since the heatsink is very far from the PCB itself and there is not much flow of air over it. The biggest problem with this cooler is to cool down the VRMs that are reaching around 100C with the HR-03 provided heatsinks, on them. So I would stay away from this Thermalright for the 4870, because you are risking the cards lifespan.

Just play with the stock fan, making it spin faster when you are gaming and you can overclock the card and also keep it cool in the same time, having all the hot air exhausted outside.

I just looked at the OC stats for the card, and it's 2mhz per % increase in frames. Not bad. so Even if I get a fan to blow on the ram sinks No go?

The ram has nothing to do with overheating, as I think they are way cooler with something like the Hr 03 GT then they would have been with the stock cooler. Those 5 little VRM chips are the pain in the ass, because they heat up like crazy.

Maybe if you put on them some serious heatsinks and mount a fan there somehow, you might get their temperature in the safe zone. Try it and see. If they hit more then 90C , then you probably need to put the stock cooler back on the card. I have a friend that uses this cooler on his 4870, coupled with a very powerful Scythe fan ( 3000 rpm ) and the GPU never goes over 45 C in full load, but the VRMs are hitting 99C!!! with a couple of zerotherm heatsinks on them ( because he could not stick those that came with thermalright).

My advice is to try the stock cooler first and see if you like it. If you don't then put this on, but be prepared for higher temps in your case and maybe the VRM overheat.

I leave my p180 open most of the time.
LOL, I'm completely over making my computer case look good anything, this because I've more/less gone through all the computer nut "phases" from obsessive to apathetic 'visually' anyhow.

I mean,, no one can tell me 2gb DDR550 and a 2.9 opteron single core is not still sexy. LOL

Edit: ok i found the pictures of what the vrms are, I have an x1900xtx so, i'll just cannibalize the vrm sink from that one LOL.

I'm getting the Visiontek card, Am i still covered if I remove the stock heatsink?

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: happy medium
none..not to sure about tf2.

Never mind it uses one core..

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1272686

EDIT: 4870 is a good choice ..Good luck and let me know how it goes.

Wo, just saw a deal on Bestbuy, 224.99 for the same visiontek card.

Shipping + tax (dame jersey) comes out to 246, but I don't have to wait for Rebate.

Does anyone know if an HR03gt will fit on a 4870

Does it run cool on it's own,, and can I oc it a bit with the hr03

The HR-03 fits the 4870 and keeps the GPU very cool. However, the rest of the card is boiling , having places with more then 100C, since the heatsink is very far from the PCB itself and there is not much flow of air over it. The biggest problem with this cooler is to cool down the VRMs that are reaching around 100C with the HR-03 provided heatsinks, on them. So I would stay away from this Thermalright for the 4870, because you are risking the cards lifespan.

Just play with the stock fan, making it spin faster when you are gaming and you can overclock the card and also keep it cool in the same time, having all the hot air exhausted outside.

I just looked at the OC stats for the card, and it's 2mhz per % increase in frames. Not bad. so Even if I get a fan to blow on the ram sinks No go?

The ram has nothing to do with overheating, as I think they are way cooler with something like the Hr 03 GT then they would have been with the stock cooler. Those 5 little VRM chips are the pain in the ass, because they heat up like crazy.

Maybe if you put on them some serious heatsinks and mount a fan there somehow, you might get their temperature in the safe zone. Try it and see. If they hit more then 90C , then you probably need to put the stock cooler back on the card. I have a friend that uses this cooler on his 4870, coupled with a very powerful Scythe fan ( 3000 rpm ) and the GPU never goes over 45 C in full load, but the VRMs are hitting 99C!!! with a couple of zerotherm heatsinks on them ( because he could not stick those that came with thermalright).

My advice is to try the stock cooler first and see if you like it. If you don't then put this on, but be prepared for higher temps in your case and maybe the VRM overheat.

I leave my p180 open most of the time.
LOL, I'm completely over making my computer case look good anything, this because I've more/less gone through all the computer nut "phases" from obsessive to apathetic 'visually' anyhow.

I mean,, no one can tell me 2gb DDR550 and a 2.9 opteron single core is not still sexy. LOL

Edit: ok i found the pictures of what the vrms are, I have an x1900xtx so, i'll just cannibalize the vrm sink from that one LOL.

I'm getting the Visiontek card, Am i still covered if I remove the stock heatsink?

http://img388.imageshack.us/my...e=palithd487018ru5.jpg]

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[yusux]

Originally posted by: Calculator83
The cards just kept coming out and i couldn't make a decision even after numerous attempts.

This card has to hold me out until starcraft 2/ diablo 3

So i've decided that I want a card by the END of this week.

Specs: 2.9ghz opteron 144 single core
2gb ram
3007wfp (25x16)

So, what i'm looking at

4850 1gb vs 4870 512

4850 1gb vs 9800

4850 512mb vs 9800

The bottleneck here is obviously my cpu. but I figured since i'm going for 25x16, it might not be terrible?

what to do?

I don't play crysis,

I play Halo PC, DMC4, BF2142, TF2, and I was wondering if i could play my x264 mkv files with the cards, since my cpu can't keep up at times

u waited this long, why not wait a bit longer for the lower nVidias, u could use a CPU upgrade if u want to run at 25x16 and not be bottlenecked

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: yusux

Originally posted by: Calculator83
The cards just kept coming out and i couldn't make a decision even after numerous attempts.

This card has to hold me out until starcraft 2/ diablo 3

So i've decided that I want a card by the END of this week.

Specs: 2.9ghz opteron 144 single core
2gb ram
3007wfp (25x16)

So, what i'm looking at

4850 1gb vs 4870 512

4850 1gb vs 9800

4850 512mb vs 9800

The bottleneck here is obviously my cpu. but I figured since i'm going for 25x16, it might not be terrible?

what to do?

I don't play crysis,

I play Halo PC, DMC4, BF2142, TF2, and I was wondering if i could play my x264 mkv files with the cards, since my cpu can't keep up at times

u waited this long, why not wait a bit longer for the lower nVidias, u could use a CPU upgrade if u want to run at 25x16 and not be bottlenecked

Yea, but i'm holding out because i don't like the current crop of games, and the ones i Do still play don't use CPU beyond "THAT" far of what i have

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Calculator83
aight, i just bought the 4870 512 $244 on egg. thx all. hopefully i'll get more frames on halo pc and pwn more n00bs.

Now all you need to do is get another cpu+mobo. Like Azn already said, the AMD dual core side is so cheap these days, if you're lacking money.

I think you are forgetting he has a S939 board. It's really going to be difficult to find a good price on a dual core.

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Calculator83
aight, i just bought the 4870 512 $244 on egg. thx all. hopefully i'll get more frames on halo pc and pwn more n00bs.

Now all you need to do is get another cpu+mobo. Like Azn already said, the AMD dual core side is so cheap these days, if you're lacking money.

I think you are forgetting he has a S939 board. It's really going to be difficult to find a good price on a dual core.

and I made the mistake of using Liquid metal on my processor, which means I'm not gonna be able to swap it out unless I get a new heatsink as well. "Not worth the expense."

So is anyone sure yet if Visiontek Covers the card even if you remove the original heatsink.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Calculator83
aight, i just bought the 4870 512 $244 on egg. thx all. hopefully i'll get more frames on halo pc and pwn more n00bs.

Now all you need to do is get another cpu+mobo. Like Azn already said, the AMD dual core side is so cheap these days, if you're lacking money.

I think you are forgetting he has a S939 board. It's really going to be difficult to find a good price on a dual core.

Well that is why I've said cpu+mobo. There is no point for someone to invest any money in a socket 939 platform. I was referring to the AM2 socket. There is where you can find a dual core for 30$ or even less and a mobo around that price too, hopefully.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: Calculator83
aight, i just bought the 4870 512 $244 on egg. thx all. hopefully i'll get more frames on halo pc and pwn more n00bs.

Now all you need to do is get another cpu+mobo. Like Azn already said, the AMD dual core side is so cheap these days, if you're lacking money.

I think you are forgetting he has a S939 board. It's really going to be difficult to find a good price on a dual core.

and I made the mistake of using Liquid metal on my processor, which means I'm not gonna be able to swap it out unless I get a new heatsink as well. "Not worth the expense."

So is anyone sure yet if Visiontek Covers the card even if you remove the original heatsink.

if you remove the hsf your warranty goes with it. I think that evga and maybe one other nvidia partner are the only ones that cover mods with their warranty.

 

[zerogear]

evga and xfx covers overclocking, not mods. But as long as you replace the heatsink when you RMA, they have no problems with it.

 

[taltamir]

SINGLE CORE OPTERON! HAHAHAHA
Yea... replace your CPU and mobo and get 2x2GB of DDR2 ram before you even think of a new video card! oh wait, too late, you dropped 300$ on a video card... (should have spend 100$ on a 9800GT or equivalent and upgraded the rest as well.)

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: taltamir
SINGLE CORE OPTERON! HAHAHAHA
Yea... replace your CPU and mobo and get 2x2GB of DDR2 ram before you even think of a new video card! oh wait, too late, you dropped 300$ on a video card... (should have spend 100$ on a 9800GT or equivalent and upgraded the rest as well.)

LOL, Yea, well, We shall Seeeeee.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Calculator83
LOL, Yea, well, We shall Seeeeee.

Yes, you shall.

This thread at another forum had a guy going from a 7600 GT to an 8800 GT on his Pentium 4 2.66GHz and upset at getting only 4000 on 3DMark06. He was told to upgrade his CPU/platform, and he came back after a while saying that he upgraded to an E8400 and with the same video card his score jumped to around THREE TIMES the score with the slower processor.

 

[betasub]

Originally posted by: Zap
a guy going from a 7600 GT to an 8800 GT on his Pentium 4 2.66GHz and upset at getting only 4000 on 3DMark06. He was told to upgrade his CPU/platform, and he came back after a while saying that he upgraded to an E8400 and with the same video card his score jumped to around THREE TIMES the score with the slower processor.

Those overall 3dM06 scores only tell us what we already knew: that the default 3dM06 score is hugely CPU-dependent, partly from running at only 1280x1024. OP's gaming resolution is much higher (approx. three times the number of pixels), so there's still going to be plenty of stress on graphics card.

Not denying that there are much better CPUs available, but OP is right to look for a high-end graphics card to drive the 3007 @25x16.

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: betasub

Originally posted by: Zap
a guy going from a 7600 GT to an 8800 GT on his Pentium 4 2.66GHz and upset at getting only 4000 on 3DMark06. He was told to upgrade his CPU/platform, and he came back after a while saying that he upgraded to an E8400 and with the same video card his score jumped to around THREE TIMES the score with the slower processor.

Those overall 3dM06 scores only tell us what we already knew: that the default 3dM06 score is hugely CPU-dependent, partly from running at only 1280x1024. OP's gaming resolution is much higher (approx. three times the number of pixels), so there's still going to be plenty of stress on graphics card.

Not denying that there are much better CPUs available, but OP is right to look for a high-end graphics card to drive the 3007 @25x16.

We shall, SEEeeeeeeeee

Also, 2.9ghz opteron single is still like a 6ghz p4

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Calculator83
Also, 2.9ghz opteron single is still like a 6ghz p4

And like a 1.2GHz Core 2 Duo.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Calculator83

Originally posted by: betasub

Originally posted by: Zap
a guy going from a 7600 GT to an 8800 GT on his Pentium 4 2.66GHz and upset at getting only 4000 on 3DMark06. He was told to upgrade his CPU/platform, and he came back after a while saying that he upgraded to an E8400 and with the same video card his score jumped to around THREE TIMES the score with the slower processor.

Those overall 3dM06 scores only tell us what we already knew: that the default 3dM06 score is hugely CPU-dependent, partly from running at only 1280x1024. OP's gaming resolution is much higher (approx. three times the number of pixels), so there's still going to be plenty of stress on graphics card.

Not denying that there are much better CPUs available, but OP is right to look for a high-end graphics card to drive the 3007 @25x16.

We shall, SEEeeeeeeeee

Also, 2.9ghz opteron single is still like a 6ghz p4

Dont listen to these fools - you'll see dramatic improvement!



Best bet is 4850 or Asus 9800 GT Ultimate.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Calculator83
Also, 2.9ghz opteron single is still like a 6ghz p4

And like a 1.2GHz Core 2 Duo.

Please. C2D only has a 20% performance advantage per clock and it's not like it translates 100% in games which are video defendant.

Even with the single core he'll be gaming well above Phenom 2.4 Ghz which does just fine with a GTX 280.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=775&p=10

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Calculator83
Also, 2.9ghz opteron single is still like a 6ghz p4

And like a 1.2GHz Core 2 Duo.

probably 1.2g to 1.5g to be exact, since core2 is about 4 times faster than p4. :laugh::

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Calculator83
LOL, Yea, well, We shall Seeeeee.

Yes, you shall.

This thread at another forum had a guy going from a 7600 GT to an 8800 GT on his Pentium 4 2.66GHz and upset at getting only 4000 on 3DMark06. He was told to upgrade his CPU/platform, and he came back after a while saying that he upgraded to an E8400 and with the same video card his score jumped to around THREE TIMES the score with the slower processor.

Yea... this reminds me, I have tried an amd X2 3800+ windsor F2 @ 2ghz, x2 6000+ windsor F3 @ 3ghz, and C2D E8400 @3 ghz... all with a 7900GT and a HD4850... I saw huge improvements with each CPU leap, but nil with the video card. Both video cards could max out HL2 for example... with the C2D... both video cards had to play on min settings on the 3800+.

And I recall seeing a huge increase in warcraft3 performance back in the day just by upgrading the ram speed. Same CPU and GPU...

It is always important to have a balanced system...

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: taltamir

It is always important to have a balanced system...

:thumbsup:

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Calculator83
Also, 2.9ghz opteron single is still like a 6ghz p4

And like a 1.2GHz Core 2 Duo.

Please. C2D only has a 20% performance advantage per clock and it's not like it translates 100% in games which are video defendant.

Even with the single core he'll be gaming well above Phenom 2.4 Ghz which does just fine with a GTX 280.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=775&p=10

thanks,

What now peeps,, these reviews clearly show that you're precious c2d gives you a m00t 10 frames top on a 280.

You got me beat, if you're a video pirate, but I'm still kicking with a tommy gun.

 

[LotusMan101]

lol

 

[Zebo]

You really never said how much you want to spend.

What's funny is with a underclocked 1.6 Ghz Al-AMD X2 chip everything is playable at highest res with a decent card. Thats an underclocked chip! Yours is 100% faster! However, throw a 7900 GTX in a 4ghz Napalm and it won't be any faster at the res your monitor demands. It will crawl compared to a 1.6 Ghz AMD with GTX 280.

I don't believe 'balanced' systems absolutely must be fulfilled like so many here do. Fact is most of us have a budget or just want to replenish our bankrupt 401K's while the price is low, anyway, you have to make sacrifices and the very first should be CPU upgrades because a year newer video card will give tremendous bang (usually double) for the buck while a year newer processor is barley noticed.

Anyway if your budget is $100 the 9800 GT will provide the most bang for the buck.

If it's $150 the 4850 1GB will do it.

If it's $200 the 260 GTX will.

If it's $ 250 I'd take a hard look at the 4870 512MB before having to have the expensive 1GB version.